Bellamy

[Douglas Higginbottom]

He did a job for us once but his knees are now fucked. That means he can no longer do a job for us on a regular enough basis to be worth the baggage that comes with him. Get over it. Move on.

Not seen any evidence of him being anything other than 4 yards quicker than Jo & twice as talented myself.

He's also walloped in a couple of 30 yard free kicks. We have no option but to move on now, however a veteran striker & matchwinner who can only play 1 game per week, therefore is happy to miss 2 games out of 3, would be the dream signing we could make right now to top off our squad, if one such player was available. Some of us have discussed that on here.

What a pity we chucked one away.

But the point is we wouldnt need him to do it on a regular basis. As a squad player, like Jo, he would play inferquently and maybe mostly from the bench and his knees are good enough for that as this season has proven.

For me though the reason I would have liked him still around is his aggressive attitude on the pitch and no doubt in the changing room as well.Maybe we wouldnt start so sluggishly if he was around.

[Beefymcfc]

He did a job for us once but his knees are now fucked. That means he can no longer do a job for us on a regular enough basis to be worth the baggage that comes with him. Get over it. Move on.

Not seen any evidence of him being anything other than 4 yards quicker than Jo & twice as talented myself.

He's also walloped in a couple of 30 yard free kicks. We have no option but to move on now, however a veteran striker & matchwinner who can only play 1 game per week, therefore is happy to miss 2 games out of 3, would be the dream signing we could make right now to top off our squad, if one such player was available. Some of us have discussed that on here.

What a pity we chucked one away.

You haven't addressed the issue that 2 free kicks a season isn't worth the baggage? I'm sure he is a better 25th squad player than Shaleum Logan but that doesn't mean he is worth the disruption he causes.

I wouldn't call it disruption, more a difference of opinion. He never seemed to cause any problems to the team, as far as I'm aware.

[Socrates]

He did a job for us once but his knees are now fucked. That means he can no longer do a job for us on a regular enough basis to be worth the baggage that comes with him. Get over it. Move on.

Not seen any evidence of him being anything other than 4 yards quicker than Jo & twice as talented myself.

He's also walloped in a couple of 30 yard free kicks. We have no option but to move on now, however a veteran striker & matchwinner who can only play 1 game per week, therefore is happy to miss 2 games out of 3, would be the dream signing we could make right now to top off our squad, if one such player was available. Some of us have discussed that on here.

What a pity we chucked one away.

You haven't addressed the issue that 2 free kicks a season isn't worth the baggage? I'm sure he is a better 25th squad player than Shaleum Logan but that doesn't mean he is worth the disruption he causes.

I wouldn't call it disruption, more a difference of opinion. He never seemed to cause any problems to the team, as far as I'm aware.

Mancini seems to think otherwise. So did Hughes for that matter, he said he'd brought Bellamy in to deliberately disrupt the dressing room! Strange I know but true...

[Goataldo]

The man has a passion that transmutes itself onto the pitch through his abundant ability like no other we have apart from Tevez. And when he isn't playing well, we struggle. He was, and would be right now, a valuable asset to the team/squad.

I'm not on the 'bring him back' bandwagon because it's evidently futile. He doesn;t fit with Mancini's plans. But still, if he did, I'd prefer it.

[Goataldo]

The man has a passion that transmutes itself onto the pitch through his abundant ability like no other we have apart from Tevez. And when he isn't playing well, we struggle. He was, and would be right now, a valuable asset to the team/squad.

I'm not on the 'bring him back' bandwagon because it's evidently futile. He doesn;t fit with Mancini's plans. But still, if he did, I'd prefer it.

'He' this, 'he' that - I can't be arsed editing now, hopefully it's clear what I mean.

[Original Dub]

He did a job for us once but his knees are now fucked. That means he can no longer do a job for us on a regular enough basis to be worth the baggage that comes with him. Get over it. Move on.

Not seen any evidence of him being anything other than 4 yards quicker than Jo & twice as talented myself.

He's also walloped in a couple of 30 yard free kicks. We have no option but to move on now, however a veteran striker & matchwinner who can only play 1 game per week, therefore is happy to miss 2 games out of 3, would be the dream signing we could make right now to top off our squad, if one such player was available. Some of us have discussed that on here.

What a pity we chucked one away.

You haven't addressed the issue that 2 free kicks a season isn't worth the baggage? I'm sure he is a better 25th squad player than Shaleum Logan but that doesn't mean he is worth the disruption he causes.

You are comparing him to Shalem Logan? Did you even watch City last season?

Tevez reckoned Bellamy was the best player at the club. I disagree, I think Tevez was last season, but Bellamy was definitely next in line, so this 25th squad mamber you're shitting on about makes no sense whatsoever.

Then again, you compare Tevez to Vassell, so I don't even know why I bothered with this post.

Letting him go was a silly thing to do, there's absolutely no doubt about that. He was lightening quick and that is something that can't be associated with ONE single player at the club now.

When we let him go, we let the pace in our attack go. anyone who thinks that Bellamy coming off the bench yesterday and running at a tired Villa defence would have made no difference is talking through their arse. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when crosses to the big man or trying to skillfully break down a rigid defence, maybe its time to introduce sheer pace. Like Arsenal do with Walcott. Only we have NO ONE LIKE THAT ANYMORE.

I'd love to see him back, he's perfect for what we're missing - someone who will be there when called upon and doesn't expect to play every game.

[london blue 2]

imo not bellamy, just pace that we are missing. Jonno and yaya are the only fuckers with any pace.

[the_georgian_genius]

We get beat + Bellamy scores = Bring back Bellamy PMSL

I didn't see many people wishing we still had him with 1 defeat in 17 and Bellamy wasn't playing let alone scoring.

[Beefymcfc]

He did a job for us once but his knees are now fucked. That means he can no longer do a job for us on a regular enough basis to be worth the baggage that comes with him. Get over it. Move on.

Not seen any evidence of him being anything other than 4 yards quicker than Jo & twice as talented myself.

He's also walloped in a couple of 30 yard free kicks. We have no option but to move on now, however a veteran striker & matchwinner who can only play 1 game per week, therefore is happy to miss 2 games out of 3, would be the dream signing we could make right now to top off our squad, if one such player was available. Some of us have discussed that on here.

What a pity we chucked one away.

You haven't addressed the issue that 2 free kicks a season isn't worth the baggage? I'm sure he is a better 25th squad player than Shaleum Logan but that doesn't mean he is worth the disruption he causes.

I wouldn't call it disruption, more a difference of opinion. He never seemed to cause any problems to the team, as far as I'm aware.

Mancini seems to think otherwise. So did Hughes for that matter, he said he'd brought Bellamy in to deliberately disrupt the dressing room! Strange I know but true...

Hughes brought him in to disrupt the dressing room??? In what sense would that be mate?

Edit: Ahhhh forget it, old news.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I really don't get why people put his performances for Cardiff up as some sort of proff he'd be shit here.

We've seen him here and we know what he can do with class around him. He was brilliant, no doubt. I for one would have loved for him to be here, really wish Bobby had found middle ground with him the way he has Tevez.

Same goes fro Ade with me though. Why the fuck cant Booby hate Jo instead?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

imo not bellamy, just pace that we are missing. Jonno and yaya are the only fuckers with any pace.

I wish that was actually true. Of course Yaya on those surging runs is pretty quick but he does take a little time to get going and over 5 maybe 10 yards he aint up to much. As for AJ in a straight race he really isnt quick. Have you seen him when he is chasing back? Pretty average but the beauty of AJ is he is quite quick off the mark and looks really quick when he skins players and leaves them flatfooted or when he makes those crossfield runs and catches defenders out. Usually though ,if he and a defender start at the same time he doesnt often win.

Breaking a defence when it's a high line is all about timing the run and the pass. Christ I even recall Sheringham breaking clear on occasion!

[kinkylola]

I really don't get why people put his performances for Cardiff up as some sort of proff he'd be shit here.

We've seen him here and we know what he can do with class around him. He was brilliant, no doubt. I for one would have loved for him to be here, really wish Bobby had found middle ground with him the way he has Tevez.

Same goes fro Ade with me though. Why the fuck cant Booby hate Jo instead?

Bellamy was brilliant ... on occasion, there were just as many times when he was a petulant, argumentative child on the pitch ... in addition to always being so off the pitch. I understand that he wants to win and he has drive and all that ... but public dissent, and constant bitching is not always good for a team.

Could bellamy have made a difference? Maybe. That's the only answer. He could just as easily be shit or brilliant, no one knows. But don't start claiming he was a consistent world beater week in week out ... that is revisionist at best.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Bloody hell. Everyone seems to forget that he was pretty poor eversince Mancini came.

Besides, he'll probably spent year or two behind the bars with his assault charge. Hardly first time either.

Furthermore, I'm not sure what he would've done against Villa side that gave no space to run to anyway.

Quite nonsensical topic.

[DoomMerchant]

Bloody hell. Everyone seems to forget that he was pretty poor eversince Mancini came.

Besides, he'll probably spent year or two behind the bars with his assault charge. Hardly first time either.

Furthermore, I'm not sure what he would've done against Villa side that gave no space to run to anyway.

Quite nonsensical topic.

look i'll go on record one last time as saying that City side this season WITH Craig fucking Bellamy in it would have won the league.

I fucking believe that. I'm not sure HOW any City fan could really feel this side is better without him in it. I mean, it's as if you just want to be contrarian with Logic...because it's not sensible to me.

Maybe i'm just a fucktard, but...Bellamy and Milner inserted at 60 mins vs Villa for Silva and Barry would have won us the match i feel. Been a couple others that have given me that feeling.

When the opposition gives you no space it's because you aren't stretching them to create it, right? it takes two to tango, and you know this game better than me, don't you?

cheers

[Tokyo Blue]

Who would you all leave out of the line-up that started v Villa so you could play Bellamy?

[ant london]

Blue Moon Rising, the dressing room before we play Spurs at the end of the season. Bellamy in that tells you everything about what (in addition from his pace and his on field contribution) he brought and what we miss.

I'm all for backing the manager's judgement but, in this case, it is clear that he let his personal issues with Cregg override what should be the primary issue which is the contribution he can make to the team.

If Mancini is able and willing to put up with the nonsense that comes with Mario (and I am a massive fan yet recognise that he is a lot of trouble and baggage) then I think it shows a huge weakness or just pigheadedness that he cannot find similar ways and flexibility to harness and get some value out of the likes of Bellamy and Adebayor

[avoidconfusion]

Who would you all leave out of the line-up that started v Villa so you could play Bellamy?

Easy, Gareth Barry.

[Kladze]

Who would you all leave out of the line-up that started v Villa so you could play Bellamy?

Easy, Gareth Barry.

........................... Hart ...............................

Boateng ...... Toure ........Kompany .........Kolarov

......................... De Jong .............................
.............Yaya ........................ Bellamy ................

....Silva ................Dzeko ................. Tevez.....


or ....


........................... Hart ...............................

Boateng ...... Toure ........Kompany .........Kolarov

......................... De Jong .............................
....... Silva .............Yaya ............ Bellamy .....

..................Dzeko ............Tevez...................


Really ??

[dazby]

Gazbaz should never be allowed to play against Villa ever. Never ever. He chokes.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Bloody hell. Everyone seems to forget that he was pretty poor eversince Mancini came.

Besides, he'll probably spent year or two behind the bars with his assault charge. Hardly first time either.

Furthermore, I'm not sure what he would've done against Villa side that gave no space to run to anyway.

Quite nonsensical topic.

look i'll go on record one last time as saying that City side this season WITH Craig fucking Bellamy in it would have won the league.

I fucking believe that. I'm not sure HOW any City fan could really feel this side is better without him in it. I mean, it's as if you just want to be contrarian with Logic...because it's not sensible to me.

Maybe i'm just a fucktard, but...Bellamy and Milner inserted at 60 mins vs Villa for Silva and Barry would have won us the match i feel. Been a couple others that have given me that feeling.

When the opposition gives you no space it's because you aren't stretching them to create it, right? it takes two to tango, and you know this game better than me, don't you?

cheers

No, we weren't stretching Villa because their defensive line was so deep we couldn't get behind them. There simply was no space space behind the line. Now this is something we have been struggling throughout Mancini's time with us. When opposition completely closes the shop.

There are two ways around this. A) you start crossing the ball like motherfucker and get loads of people in the box to win the heeaders OR B) you start cracking some decent shots from distance, as close to defensive line as possible. In ideal scenario you mix those two (putting low crosses to someone on the edge of the box when everyone is in six yard expecting high cross is cracking move in this situation for example). What you do NOT want to do is run, run and run trying to go through that meatwall. And THAT is what Bellamy does best.

There may have been situations this season when we would've needed Bellamy but Villa wasn't one of them.

And it's not just about who is best. Bellamy sets an example on training ground and off the pitch, example you may not want to give to players like Ballotelli who are hard to handle as it is. Bellamy is a good player but he is troublemaker and at this stage of his career simply not worth it.

And are you saying you think Bellamy is better player than Silva? Giggle.

And how can you "go on record" claiming we would've won the league with Bellamy??? That's one of the most retarded things I've heard in a while. I could "go on record" saying we would've on the league with Antoine Sibierski.