Mancini or Mourinho

[Mikhail Chigorin]

If we'd had Mourinho from the start of the season, I think we'd be in a better position to win stuff now, but in the long term I think Bob will do just as well at City as Mourinho would have done & I want him doing it for ten years or more.

If it was a choice between Bob for two years or Mourinho for two years though, I'd have Mourinho tomorrow. I see Bob as a long term manager who grows, with the club, to be the best. If his plans are short term & he plans to leave; Mourinho is the best short term manager in the world, he's proved that, so I'd have him like a shot.

Good post, Ted. Nice summation.

[Blue Since 76]

Don't like Mourinho's style of football, but it's very effective. I'd love Bob to be a success and be here for 10+ years, but I still have my doubts. If Mourinho came in, I have no doubts we'd win something next year and probably the Premier league.

If Mourinho wins something with Real, he's acheived it in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain. I think he'll be ready to settle down somewhere where he's happy for a longer term and that will be England. Ultimately, I think he'll take the Portugal job ready for a World Cup, but that would be his swansong, so there's a few years of club management left yet. If he doesn't win something with Real, they'll sack him anyway.

His options? The rags job, as he is arrogant enough to take over from taggart and think he can make them more successful. Liverpool and restore them to their former glory, doing something Rafa couldn't by winning the league. City and prove he is the Special One by winning something for the first time in (most people's) living memory.

I think Mancini could prove to be our Ranieri. Although I then expect Mourinho to be doing a press conference at City in 10 years time, sucking his thumbing, rocking backwards and forwards, whilst repeating 'not special one anymore' having spent £3.5bn on players and still not managing to win anything. Whoever annoyed that gypsy really annoyed her.

[Beefymcfc]

Are Mancini's and Mourinho's tactics so different?

[Goaters 103]

Jose, every day of the week. No slight on Mancini, but Mourinho's been there and done it ... several times over, and in the Prem to boot. Lifted Porto to the Champs Lge which was possibly his greatest achievement.

Mancini may in turn get some success for us, I sincerely hope he does and quite like him as our manager. However Mourinho guarantees success, which is something we crave after 30 odd years without any.

[avoidconfusion]

Mancini for the simple reason of consistency.

Mourinho has only been at Madrid for 5 minutes and is already sort of talking about leaving... he would do the same here once SAF retires I am 100%.

[saulman]

Bobby. All the way.

[dazby]

Rainieri.

Out of those two, Bob. I don't like Mourinho.

[Mike J]

Rainieri.

Out of those two, Bob. I don't like Mourinho.

i am truly amazed anyone would still have ranieri. i think it'd be a fucking disaster

[BobKowalski]

Mancini.

And I am a total Mourinho fan boy.

Jose is a master at applying the psychological afterburners that can propel a team to the next level. Chelsea it was the title and Inter the CL. I personally think that this approach allied to his meticulous preparation has a limited shelf life of about 3 years before the intensity and the submergence of the team identity i.e. it is all about Jose start to provoke a negative reaction from the players. The way round this is for the squad to be continually refreshed over a 3 to 5 year cycle or Jose moves on every 3 years or so which is the current pattern.

Jose is poor at buying players. At Inter for his second year the players were picked for him and it worked much better once Inter realised the type of players Jose needs for his systems to work. Mancini is better at picking players with respect to the systems he wants to play and there is a more technical approach rather than psychological approach to his methods. In essence Mancini is more likely to give you a Barca model with more long term stability and success and Mourinho is more like to give you an instant rush and immediate success (albeit there has to be a reasonable foundation already in place for this to happen). Mancini will ultimately give you more attractive football if only because I see Mancini as more of a football purist and unlike Mourinho its not all about him and protecting his reputation.

Other than this they share common traits as all the top managers do. Emphasis on hard work, right mentality, intensity, stubbornness and a hard line on players who don't fit no matter how talented.

I don't see ADUG hiring Mourinho and definitely will not ditch Mancini to hire him. I think the Mourinho to City boat has long sailed and it ain't coming back

[CityFanFromRome]

Rainieri.

Out of those two, Bob. I don't like Mourinho.

i am truly amazed anyone would still have ranieri. i think it'd be a fucking disaster

Compared to Bob and Mourinho? Probably yes; as a manager in general he's not that bad though, at least from what I see of his work at Roma. Not the most entertaining football around, but by ability or sheer luck (at times more of the second tbf) he's getting the results, both last season and this one (after a bad patch at the start of the season).

[Blue Since 76]

Are Mancini's and Mourinho's tactics so different?

At times, unfortunately not. I'm still hoping there's an attacking manager trying to break out from Mancini, once he's achieved his goal of 4th. However, I suspect next season, the task would be the title, which would put even more emphasis on not losing and he'd ignore the necessity to win.

[CityFanFromRome]

Are Mancini's and Mourinho's tactics so different?

At times, unfortunately not. I'm still hoping there's an attacking manager trying to break out from Mancini, once he's achieved his goal of 4th. However, I suspect next season, the task would be the title, which would put even more emphasis on not losing and he'd ignore the necessity to win.

If next season the aim is the title, he ain't gonna get it with 38 draws and he knows that perfectly well. When the aim will openly be the title he will pursue the win in every game, like he did at Inter once the title was the target (he also had the strongest team there, but one could argue he does have the strongest squad on paper here). I'm confident he will do that next season. It's this one where we can't afford to lose CL again.

I'm ready to bet that if we mathematically qualify for CL early enough to still have a chance of winning the league, he will go guns blazing in every remaining game.

[Im_Spartacus]

Maybe pertinent to remind everyone that Mancini was 2nd choice after Mourinho said he was finishing the job at Inter

I agree he is doing a decent job for us, but the owners maybe just want their man - regardless whether we like it or not.

[Wooders]

Maybe pertinent to remind everyone that Mancini was 2nd choice after Mourinho said he was finishing the job at Inter

I agree he is doing a decent job for us, but the owners maybe just want their man - regardless whether we like it or not.

He was second choice but he got the job

[john68]

Change takes time and time is something we don't have.
We wasted too much time and then ofloaded Hughes.
We have now spent more time and more resources under Mancini.
The last thing we need right now is more change and more upheaval.
We are travelling in the right direction...Stick with who we've got.

[Fesan]

Mancini, he is the man:-)

Would have taken Mourinho over Mancini when Hughes left but happy with what Mancini has done and think he will stay for the long term as Mourinho would (probably) not.

[Im_Spartacus]

Maybe pertinent to remind everyone that Mancini was 2nd choice after Mourinho said he was finishing the job at Inter

I agree he is doing a decent job for us, but the owners maybe just want their man - regardless whether we like it or not.

He was second choice but he got the job

Only because the first choice had a job to finish.

[Beefymcfc]

I feckin' hate 'The Special One', now take your 'Special Arse' away from your 'Special Pimping' yourself out to anyone or everyone who's got a decent chance of winning things!

You're becoming a disgrace to football you self-obsessed media whoring fucker!

[Patrick]

Mancini.... He is growing with us and can become our dynasty

Hose is all about Hoses dynasty

[Lee_R]

Mancini for me. He's a better man and I think he loves being at City. Mourinho would think he was bigger than the club and act like he was doing us a favour. Also players like Balotelli trust Mancini and I'm hoping he's our future. The thing is, Mancini likes to be involved with the club and he seems to really respect his job and he could become our greatest manager given time.

One other thing to consider is that we cant be giving Mourinho another £300m or whatever to build his team. UEFA wouldnt allow that.

I really think Mourinho will end up at the the rags and it will be him and Mancini battling it out for major trophies over the next decade. I'll be happy with that. Spicey!