Go On, Have A Moan!

[Mase]

I watched MCFC last 3 months, and team is not good. Selection is ok, players is so good, and what they do? Nothing!
Every match has same problem. Midfielder players choke attackers with more passes, and passes and backward ball to defenders. Every goal has gone from short speed action with 2-3 touches!

Transition ball from defender zone to midfield zone is problem for MCFC, and wing-forwards not enough balls for transition to attack zone and throw the ball into the penalty area to goals.

Nobody knows to throw the ball into penalty zone from corner? MCFC had many corners, but???


Sorry for my english, but - from Bosnia - we see this problem on this way.

Ha ha ha, 3 months and got us sussed. Good to see it's so obvious mate, thanks for the analysis.

I was going to say that too! The guys got it spot on!!

[Mase]

Jo AGAIN!!! sat there on the bench like a fuckin Sideshow Bob cunt waving that stupid hair in the wind! At one point I actually saw the fucker breathe!!! No joke he actually took a breath! He should be fined for that in my opinion. And then he went to Milan to cheer Spurs on and then at full time I saw the prick high fivin' Arry!!!!
It's all his fault!!! We should have signed Alan while we had the chance.

[Nick]

I watched MCFC last 3 months, and team is not good. Selection is ok, players is so good, and what they do? Nothing!
Every match has same problem. Midfielder players choke attackers with more passes, and passes and backward ball to defenders. Every goal has gone from short speed action with 2-3 touches!

Transition ball from defender zone to midfield zone is problem for MCFC, and wing-forwards not enough balls for transition to attack zone and throw the ball into the penalty area to goals.

Nobody knows to throw the ball into penalty zone from corner? MCFC had many corners, but???


Sorry for my english, but - from Bosnia - we see this problem on this way.

Ha ha ha, 3 months and got us sussed. Good to see it's so obvious mate, thanks for the analysis.

Was just about to put this but scrolled down as im sure somebody would have agreed.

THIS post sums us up and hes sussed us in 3 months. Sort it city, we understand we are not going to hammer teams all the time, but its the LACK OF URGENCY that fucks me off. slow slow sideways and backwards passing is bollocks.

[CitizenYank]

I watched MCFC last 3 months, and team is not good. Selection is ok, players is so good, and what they do? Nothing!
Every match has same problem. Midfielder players choke attackers with more passes, and passes and backward ball to defenders. Every goal has gone from short speed action with 2-3 touches!

Transition ball from defender zone to midfield zone is problem for MCFC, and wing-forwards not enough balls for transition to attack zone and throw the ball into the penalty area to goals.

Nobody knows to throw the ball into penalty zone from corner? MCFC had many corners, but???


Sorry for my english, but - from Bosnia - we see this problem on this way.

Ha ha ha, 3 months and got us sussed. Good to see it's so obvious mate, thanks for the analysis.

I was going to say that too! The guys got it spot on!!

You rang the bell that time, just look at Saturday!!

[guv111]

What a tippy tapppy snorefest that was. Against a distinctly ordinary side we came not even close to scoring. What is it now, one win in seven, or something? Meanwhile, Spurs beat Milan in Milan. Some say we've made progress over the last year because we... um... have better players. Not a better team, just better players. Yet these "better players" aren't doing any better than last season, and for every David Silva we now have a James Milner. We've booted Adebayor out the door, but we still have Jo. If we need a goal we replace a striker with Vieira. What an improvement. What progress. We're third in the league because Chelsea had that really bad patch (if they hadn't we'd be fourth), and if things carry on as they are Chelsea and Spurs will nudge us out of a Champions League berth again while we desperately hang on for fifth.

So, what's the solution? Do we spend yet more millions on the upper echelons of averageness and hope this "progress" will start to manifest itself one day, but have the distinct possibility of ending next season fifth again - or sixth, because Liverpool could be back chasing a Top 4 finish - tippy tappying our way to nowhere in particular, or do we bite the bullet and find someone who extols the virtues of vibrant, attacking football? Spurs made do with journeyman Redknapp and look at them go. I think we can do better than either Redknapp or Mancini. But do we want to?

[Beefymcfc]

Jo AGAIN!!! sat there on the bench like a fuckin Sideshow Bob cunt waving that stupid hair in the wind! At one point I actually saw the fucker breathe!!! No joke he actually took a breath! He should be fined for that in my opinion. And then he went to Milan to cheer Spurs on and then at full time I saw the prick high fivin' Arry!!!!
It's all his fault!!! We should have signed Alan while we had the chance.

A bit tame, but nearly there.

[Beefymcfc]

What a tippy tapppy snorefest that was. Against a distinctly ordinary side we came not even close to scoring. What is it now, one win in seven, or something? Meanwhile, Spurs beat Milan in Milan. Some say we've made progress over the last year because we... um... have better players. Not a better team, just better players. Yet these "better players" aren't doing any better than last season, and for every David Silva we now have a James Milner. We've booted Adebayor out the door, but we still have Jo. If we need a goal we replace a striker with Vieira. What an improvement. What progress. We're third in the league because Chelsea had that really bad patch (if they hadn't we'd be fourth), and if things carry on as they are Chelsea and Spurs will nudge us out of a Champions League berth again while we desperately hang on for fifth.

So, what's the solution? Do we spend yet more millions on the upper echelons of averageness and hope this "progress" will start to manifest itself one day, but have the distinct possibility of ending next season fifth again - or sixth, because Liverpool could be back chasing a Top 4 finish - tippy tappying our way to nowhere in particular, or do we bite the bullet and find someone who extols the virtues of vibrant, attacking football? Spurs made do with journeyman Redknapp and look at them go. I think we can do better than either Redknapp or Mancini. But do we want to?

And, would've fuckin' guessed it, Guv 'Can't count past fuckin' 1' has a say. I like it mate, and actually agree.

[Green & Blue]

Gareth Barrys distinct lack of will to do anything imaginative with the ball.Any average player can play the safe pass all day long and keep possesion.He's a good enough footballer to try and get the ball moving forward more regularly.I have seen him do it before and he can have a really good game every so often but he needs to try and be more productive when he has the ball not always playing the easiest pass.

[guv111]

What a tippy tapppy snorefest that was. Against a distinctly ordinary side we came not even close to scoring. What is it now, one win in seven, or something? Meanwhile, Spurs beat Milan in Milan. Some say we've made progress over the last year because we... um... have better players. Not a better team, just better players. Yet these "better players" aren't doing any better than last season, and for every David Silva we now have a James Milner. We've booted Adebayor out the door, but we still have Jo. If we need a goal we replace a striker with Vieira. What an improvement. What progress. We're third in the league because Chelsea had that really bad patch (if they hadn't we'd be fourth), and if things carry on as they are Chelsea and Spurs will nudge us out of a Champions League berth again while we desperately hang on for fifth.

So, what's the solution? Do we spend yet more millions on the upper echelons of averageness and hope this "progress" will start to manifest itself one day, but have the distinct possibility of ending next season fifth again - or sixth, because Liverpool could be back chasing a Top 4 finish - tippy tappying our way to nowhere in particular, or do we bite the bullet and find someone who extols the virtues of vibrant, attacking football? Spurs made do with journeyman Redknapp and look at them go. I think we can do better than either Redknapp or Mancini. But do we want to?

And, would've fuckin' guessed it, Guv 'Can't count past fuckin' 1' has a say. I like it mate, and actually agree.

I was going to call myself guvaaa, but it sounded a bit to much like the Cockney "Guv'nah".

Anyway, I moan here because after years of being oh-so optimistic and supportive of City on the Independent newspaper website, in the face of their United and Spurs love-in, I just got tired of defending what we are now witnessing in every game, be it against Arsenal or Notts County. I don't want to come across as a single-issue Mancini Outer, but I feel I'm being driven that way by performances and our manager's strange handling of the team.

[johnnyondioline]

Gareth Barrys distinct lack of will to do anything imaginative with the ball.Any average player can play the safe pass all day long and keep possesion.He's a good enough footballer to try and get the ball moving forward more regularly.I have seen him do it before and he can have a really good game every so often but he needs to try and be more productive when he has the ball not always playing the easiest pass.

I seem to be in a minority but I thought Barry did ok tonight. He was essentially playing left back behind Kolarov, which seems to be the accepted wisdom of how our best system is supposed to work. I thought he did fine, made a lot of challenges & put himself about. Also we want him delivering that ball to Dzeko (where he was behind Kolarov) as many times as possible.

I'm not his biggest fan but I do think he is a clever modern player, younger Hamman maybe?

On a different theme, do we not want Spurs to beat Milan with their all out energy style, & then do the same in the quarters & then get the runaround from Barca in the semi............and run out of steam against us..........?

[DoomMerchant]

So, who you blaming DangerMouse, or is it just a 'Typical' thing ;-}

i'm blaming you for not stumping up some cash for the site you tight bastard.

cheers

[9secondlegend]

The thing is , are we all being blinkered into thinking we are actually progressing?
I have had to watch the last couple of games down south with neutral fans and they havent had a decent thing to say about us apart from typical city. It's fucking embarrasing. No matter how much I try to defend us there is no excuse for the dross of games like today. Man for man we were at least , or should have been , 5 times better than these fuckers today but again they weren't.
I have watched city 6 times this year in pubs when I haven't been able to get to the game and each time , the locals, have constantly slagged us off and in my opinion rightly so. The majority really do not like us.

[Beefymcfc]

I was going to call myself guvaaa, but it sounded a bit to much like the Cockney "Guv'nah".

Anyway, I moan here because after years of being oh-so optimistic and supportive of City on the Independent newspaper website, in the face of their United and Spurs love-in, I just got tired of defending what we are now witnessing in every game, be it against Arsenal or Notts County. I don't want to come across as a single-issue Mancini Outer, but I feel I'm being driven that way by performances and our manager's strange handling of the team.

What do you call your young'ens ;-)

Very fair points though and our current form and previous tactics back up your concerns. I'm trying to work out if it's the players or the manager, Mancio has me running in circles.

Is that why we haven't had the same team twice this season, to fuck with our heads?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Last 5 away games;
Notts County draw
Villa lost
Brum draw
Scum lost
Aris draw

Not too impressive is it? But there is no reason why we won't see:
Chelsea win
Liverpool win
Everton win
Bolton win


Is there?

[Ted Hughes]

Result was ok tonight & without too much trouble but our lack of attacking ability is unacceptable at this stage. We have so many good players, with so many various talents, yet we lack so many attacking attributes as a team, some of which even the lowest league sides have. We can knock it around the midfield as well as anyone & get to great areas, then we have no fucking idea what to do next. We are getting slower on the counter too.

Looking at the Spurs game; they scored the kind of goal we used to score with Petrov or Bellamy. We've lost all that pace on the counter but we still haven't replaced it with any other method.

The header which Dzeko almost scored just showed how easily we could create chances if we had any kind of inklin to do so. That was just your basic lay the ball back for a 1st time dink into the near post, like Gary Neville used to do 400 times a season. There's nothing difficult about it yet I can't remember seeing us play that ball into that area 1st time like that before. Why aren't we doing it 20 times per game? Why aren't we hitting diagonals to Dzeko for him to lay off or strike on goal, like Spurs were with Crouch? We get into the position to do it, we have the players to score from it, so why not?

These are really simple easy things to do, which other teams regularly score from. We can do things which are much more difficult so why are we still not doing the easy stuff?

[john@staustell]

Result was ok tonight & without too much trouble but our lack of attacking ability is unacceptable at this stage. We have so many good players, with so many various talents, yet we lack so many attacking attributes as a team, some of which even the lowest league sides have. We can knock it around the midfield as well as anyone & get to great areas, then we have no fucking idea what to do next. We are getting slower on the counter too.

Looking at the Spurs game; they scored the kind of goal we used to score with Petrov or Bellamy. We've lost all that pace on the counter but we still haven't replaced it with any other method.

The header which Dzeko almost scored just showed how easily we could create chances if we had any kind of inklin to do so. That was just your basic lay the ball back for a 1st time dink into the near post, like Gary Neville used to do 400 times a season. There's nothing difficult about it yet I can't remember seeing us play that ball into that area 1st time like that before. Why aren't we doing it 20 times per game? Why aren't we hitting diagonals to Dzeko for him to lay off or strike on goal, like Spurs were with Crouch? We get into the position to do it, we have the players to score from it, so why not?

These are really simple easy things to do, which other teams regularly score from. We can do things which are much more difficult so why are we still not doing the easy stuff?

I agree some of the last third play was appallingly dire. But then again it was a few personal actions that stopped us getting a good win, eg:

Dzeko header - good save
Dzeko chance that Silva trapped - poor miss
Dzeko toe poke - poor miss
Dzeko long shot top corner - decent save
SWP played in by Dzeko - inexplicably takes it wide instead of cutting across the man and shooting from 6 yards (or getting pen)
SWP one minute later - not the best, similar position

So if we had won, say, 3-0 with those chances, our play would've been exactly the same, but would there be the need for these conversations? It would be lauded as a simple win.

[Ted Hughes]

Result was ok tonight & without too much trouble but our lack of attacking ability is unacceptable at this stage. We have so many good players, with so many various talents, yet we lack so many attacking attributes as a team, some of which even the lowest league sides have. We can knock it around the midfield as well as anyone & get to great areas, then we have no fucking idea what to do next. We are getting slower on the counter too.

Looking at the Spurs game; they scored the kind of goal we used to score with Petrov or Bellamy. We've lost all that pace on the counter but we still haven't replaced it with any other method.

The header which Dzeko almost scored just showed how easily we could create chances if we had any kind of inklin to do so. That was just your basic lay the ball back for a 1st time dink into the near post, like Gary Neville used to do 400 times a season. There's nothing difficult about it yet I can't remember seeing us play that ball into that area 1st time like that before. Why aren't we doing it 20 times per game? Why aren't we hitting diagonals to Dzeko for him to lay off or strike on goal, like Spurs were with Crouch? We get into the position to do it, we have the players to score from it, so why not?

These are really simple easy things to do, which other teams regularly score from. We can do things which are much more difficult so why are we still not doing the easy stuff?

I agree some of the last third play was appallingly dire. But then again it was a few personal actions that stopped us getting a good win, eg:

Dzeko header - good save
Dzeko chance that Silva trapped - poor miss
Dzeko toe poke - poor miss
Dzeko long shot top corner - decent save
SWP played in by Dzeko - inexplicably takes it wide instead of cutting across the man and shooting from 6 yards (or getting pen)
SWP one minute later - not the best, similar position

So if we had won, say, 3-0 with those chances, our play would've been exactly the same, but would there be the need for these conversations? It would be lauded as a simple win.

I still wouldn't be happy mate. I want to see the team operating at close to it's maximum & with the glaring lack of crosses/diagonals, set pieces & pace, it's not even operating at 50%, win lose or draw.

[Biamp]

Last 5 away games;
Notts County draw
Villa lost
Brum draw
Scum lost
Aris draw

Not too impressive is it? But there is no reason why we won't see:
Chelsea win
Liverpool win
Everton win
Bolton win


Is there?

I am sure we'll sort it out soon.

[Ted Hughes]

Result was ok tonight & without too much trouble but our lack of attacking ability is unacceptable at this stage. We have so many good players, with so many various talents, yet we lack so many attacking attributes as a team, some of which even the lowest league sides have. We can knock it around the midfield as well as anyone & get to great areas, then we have no fucking idea what to do next. We are getting slower on the counter too.

Looking at the Spurs game; they scored the kind of goal we used to score with Petrov or Bellamy. We've lost all that pace on the counter but we still haven't replaced it with any other method.

The header which Dzeko almost scored just showed how easily we could create chances if we had any kind of inklin to do so. That was just your basic lay the ball back for a 1st time dink into the near post, like Gary Neville used to do 400 times a season. There's nothing difficult about it yet I can't remember seeing us play that ball into that area 1st time like that before. Why aren't we doing it 20 times per game? Why aren't we hitting diagonals to Dzeko for him to lay off or strike on goal, like Spurs were with Crouch? We get into the position to do it, we have the players to score from it, so why not?

These are really simple easy things to do, which other teams regularly score from. We can do things which are much more difficult so why are we still not doing the easy stuff?

I agree some of the last third play was appallingly dire. But then again it was a few personal actions that stopped us getting a good win, eg:

Dzeko header - good save
Dzeko chance that Silva trapped - poor miss
Dzeko toe poke - poor miss
Dzeko long shot top corner - decent save
SWP played in by Dzeko - inexplicably takes it wide instead of cutting across the man and shooting from 6 yards (or getting pen)
SWP one minute later - not the best, similar position

So if we had won, say, 3-0 with those chances, our play would've been exactly the same, but would there be the need for these conversations? It would be lauded as a simple win.

I still wouldn't be happy mate. I want to see the team operating at close to it's maximum & with the glaring lack of crosses/diagonals, set pieces & pace, it's not even operating at 50%, win lose or draw.

Bob agrees : “Shaun should do better than that,” he said of a player who submitted a written transfer request in the final days of the transfer window. “We had only one cross throughout the second half and it was from Gareth Barry. With Dzeko playing, we should have crossed it more. Maybe Carlos was quieter than usual but we cannot always rely on Carlos to score once or twice in every game.”

[FA cup winners 2006]

Not so much a moan but my own personal thoughts;

i hate mancinis attitude, not his attidude to footballl but his ignorance to other professionals; all players should be made feel like superstars, like the way harry makes an average spurs team feel, (bellemy & adebayor should be still part of this team)

Shay Given has been given the biggest slap in the face of his personal career and still has not voiced his disconcernation, even after joe harts shocking displays of late (going back as far as newcastle), where he (shay) should have been restored as nr. 1 (if it had happened to an outfield player then he WOULD have been replaced)

Again my own personal thoughts only here but Garreth Barry is the most underrated footballer in our squad; he rarely loses the ball in tight spots; as shown tonight where'as YaYa was shite at holding the ball.

there is no way we should have the same target as we had last year.

mancini took over this team with the promose that HE could get us into champions league (last december) but just missed out; he spend over £100m in the summer and has not progressed; we are giving an inexperienced manager his break in the preimer league for free (this talk about knowing the premier league because he played with leicester for a month is embarrsing)

We have completely failed in cup games since Mancini arrived, utd in the CC (2 legs), Stoke in the FA Cup and this year in the CC to who i cant remember; this is the same reason why Mancini was sacked from Inter Milan, because he could'nt cut it on the Euorpean stage (cup games)

Another thing i would like to have a moan about is the polls that have been going on here since the start of the season, wheather we would prefer to win a cup or qualify for the CL? f**k the polls, we NEED to qualify for the CL, i will gladly give up a cup for this year and next for qualification to the CL; winning a cup this year would be great but we need to be aiming much higher, we need the best players and they dont always win everything every year.

Portsmouth, villa and middlesbourgh have all done well domestically recently and we dont want to end up like them, we want to be a real challenger;

mancini may be our man, but i think hughes could have done the same job and we have set ourselves back a year letting mancini learn his trade here