City might have to finish 3rd to qualify for CL

[Ted Hughes]

Arsenal have fucked themselves drawing at orient, we'll overtake them I reckon.

You could well be right. Unfortunately the only side I'm convinced will finish top 2 is Rags.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Arsenal have fucked themselves drawing at orient, we'll overtake them I reckon.

You could well be right. Unfortunately the only side I'm convinced will finish top 2 is Rags.

Scum will win the league by a street ( unless Chelsea take 4 points minimum off them) and Arse will be 2nd.It's a scrap after that.
Arse will play nearly 100% second string v Orient and have no problems in the replay.

[mcfc1632]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

If us qualifying for the Champions League hinged on the Munes winning then I'd want them to win. Simple as that.

I love City more than I hate United and I'm suspicious of anyone who has it the other way around.

Hear hear.

I also fancy spuds to win it over the rags.

You guys can be as suspicious as you like - I would need a lot of convincing if anyone was to suggest that they are 'more of' a CITY supporter than me - there will be some out there I am sure - but on all ways of measuring it they will be a very small percentage.

But I would have a big issue on such a night - yes I want CITY to be in the CL and I think that qualification this year is a must due to FFP - but I also believe that we are on the road to domination anyway and I want the scum to start their inevitable slide (unless they get bailed out by Qataris) - I do not want them having more wankfests.

Of course I would console myself if it meant we got qualification but no way would I be watching that night hoping for them to win

I am rational about all tnings in life apart from my love of CITY and absolute hatred of the scum

[The Man In Blue]

Not suggesting anyone is a "bigger" blue than anyone else - I find that kind of one-upmanship pretty lame to be honest - but I cannot understand people who would put their dislike for the rags ahead of City. It makes no sense at all to me.

I live within earshot of the rags' shitty swamp, most of my mates in Chorlton are rags (the place is rag fucking central) so i have to put up with their shite all the time.

I'd reiterate ADVT's point though, if it was Rags v Spuds in the CL final and our CL qualification depended on a scum victory I would 1000% want them to win, no second thoughts at all.

[john@staustell]

Where's the quotes? If memory serves me right they weren't keen on the bin dippers qualifying when they won the cup and didn't get the league placing - this would also go against the trend in that I think I'm right in that World Cup Winners don't automatically qualify like they used to?

Titleholder

2.03 The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group
stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic
championship.

a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the
UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League
through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the
association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically 2
transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round
where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the
titleholder's national association is entitled in the UEFA Champions
League and the UEFA Europa League does not change.

b) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the
UEFA Champions League and does not qualify for the UEFA Champions
League or UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the
lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League
representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League
(into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the
national association of the titleholder is entitled to one additional place in
the UEFA Europa League.

[Alioune DVToure]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

If us qualifying for the Champions League hinged on the Munes winning then I'd want them to win. Simple as that.

I love City more than I hate United and I'm suspicious of anyone who has it the other way around.

Hear hear.

I also fancy spuds to win it over the rags.

You guys can be as suspicious as you like - I would need a lot of convincing if anyone was to suggest that they are 'more of' a CITY supporter than me - there will be some out there I am sure - but on all ways of measuring it they will be a very small percentage.

But I would have a big issue on such a night - yes I want CITY to be in the CL and I think that qualification this year is a must due to FFP - but I also believe that we are on the road to domination anyway and I want the scum to start their inevitable slide (unless they get bailed out by Qataris) - I do not want them having more wankfests.

Of course I would console myself if it meant we got qualification but no way would I be watching that night hoping for them to win

I am rational about all tnings in life apart from my love of CITY and absolute hatred of the scum

Put it this way mate, I don't define my love of City in terms of my hatred for United. My priority is for us to do well.

As someone in the top 3% of Blues or whatever you claim to be, I'm surprised that you'd miss out on the Champions League as long as the Munes don't win it. I hope they don't win it, but this was a hypothetical scenario with only one outcome beneficial to us. Which brings me back to my original point. I don't like them, but I self-identify as a City fan rather than a United hater. There are some people that don't (and I'm not necessarily saying that you belong to this group).

[Kladze]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

I LOLZ at this but the answer's pretty obvious as it goes.

[Kladze]

gonna need Google translate for this one.......[translate gibberish%english="man i dont know wath is with you pesimist u have the best team u can have just wait to fit in , milan 1998 buys 7 players in one year they played together 10 years won 3 league championships and 4 championships and 3 state cup .... we all know that we bought a lot of new players, wait until you get used to each other dzeko know where that Tevez does not look like yesterday that silva dzeko know where to Mancini surveillance formula .... a bit of patience until yesterday we were fighting for the UEFA Cup now cry that we are one of the best teams[/translate"]

[result gibberish%english=" error 1002001. cunt.[/translate"]Beanieboy
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man u are wright i used transelate page sory i m from bosnia love city from 2000 when i meet my frend andruw who is from wales and city fun and i dont want to make mistake but u are righte i will try to write how i know in thet stupid try i try to say thet man city have alot new pleyers and in next seson if they dont change much they wil be bether and bether ok , once again sory mate....

It's fucking Beanieboy who should be apologising in my opinion :-)

[Beanieboy]

gonna need Google translate for this one.......[translate gibberish%english="man i dont know wath is with you pesimist u have the best team u can have just wait to fit in , milan 1998 buys 7 players in one year they played together 10 years won 3 league championships and 4 championships and 3 state cup .... we all know that we bought a lot of new players, wait until you get used to each other dzeko know where that Tevez does not look like yesterday that silva dzeko know where to Mancini surveillance formula .... a bit of patience until yesterday we were fighting for the UEFA Cup now cry that we are one of the best teams[/translate"]

[result gibberish%english=" error 1002001. cunt.[/translate"]Beanieboy
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man u are wright i used transelate page sory i m from bosnia love city from 2000 when i meet my frend andruw who is from wales and city fun and i dont want to make mistake but u are righte i will try to write how i know in thet stupid try i try to say thet man city have alot new pleyers and in next seson if they dont change much they wil be bether and bether ok , once again sory mate....

It's fucking Beanieboy who should be apologising in my opinion :-)

ok, sorry

[mcfc1632]

Not suggesting anyone is a "bigger" blue than anyone else - I find that kind of one-upmanship pretty lame to be honest - but I cannot understand people who would put their dislike for the rags ahead of City. It makes no sense at all to me.

I live within earshot of the rags' shitty swamp, most of my mates in Chorlton are rags (the place is rag fucking central) so i have to put up with their shite all the time.

I'd reiterate ADVT's point though, if it was Rags v Spuds in the CL final and our CL qualification depended on a scum victory I would 1000% want them to win, no second thoughts at all.

I do not want to make a big thing of it - but the suggestion of 'being suspicious' seemed to be inferring something in terms of quality of a being a CITY fan....

Maybe it is a generational thing, I am Salford born and bred and for my generation (IMO and experience) it is not possible to be a CITY fan without being a scum hater - but I do not feel the need to comment on those that are not the same

So I was just pointing out that there are die-hard blues out there who should not 'arouse suspicions' just because they have such a level of hate for the scum.

It is all about opinions - you (and others) have yours (I sometimes dispair over the seeminly endless posts that I see on CITY forums that overly sensitive and PC about slagging off the scum) - I have mine - and mine (IMO) should not arouse 'suspicions' - anyway - as I say I do not mean to make a thing out of it, it was just an unnecessary comment (IMO)

[mcfc1632]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

If us qualifying for the Champions League hinged on the Munes winning then I'd want them to win. Simple as that.

I love City more than I hate United and I'm suspicious of anyone who has it the other way around.

Hear hear.

I also fancy spuds to win it over the rags.

You guys can be as suspicious as you like - I would need a lot of convincing if anyone was to suggest that they are 'more of' a CITY supporter than me - there will be some out there I am sure - but on all ways of measuring it they will be a very small percentage.

But I would have a big issue on such a night - yes I want CITY to be in the CL and I think that qualification this year is a must due to FFP - but I also believe that we are on the road to domination anyway and I want the scum to start their inevitable slide (unless they get bailed out by Qataris) - I do not want them having more wankfests.

Of course I would console myself if it meant we got qualification but no way would I be watching that night hoping for them to win

I am rational about all tnings in life apart from my love of CITY and absolute hatred of the scum

Put it this way mate, I don't define my love of City in terms of my hatred for United. My priority is for us to do well.

As someone in the top 3% of Blues or whatever you claim to be, I'm surprised that you'd miss out on the Champions League as long as the Munes don't win it. I hope they don't win it, but this was a hypothetical scenario with only one outcome beneficial to us. Which brings me back to my original point. I don't like them, but I self-identify as a City fan rather than a United hater. There are some people that don't (and I'm not necessarily saying that you belong to this group).

Fair enough - but as you say it is an hypothetical question - I do not feel that I have the right to be suspicious of your position - I accept that there are lots of blues that are less 'against' the scum than the old school like me - but I challenge your right to be suspicious of those that could not bring ourselves to support the scum in practically any circumstances

[Alioune DVToure]

Nobody's on about "supporting" them mate. I'm a local/thoroughbred/howeverthefuckyouwanttodefineit blue myself AND I would say I hate the Munes. But I wouldn't be reminiscing about them having lost a final in 30 years' time. I would, however, be reminiscing about our first qualification for the Champs League.

I still maintain that anyone who sees Scum failure as being on a par with City success has their priorities wrong as far as I'm concerned.

[mcfc1632]

...oh well best just let it go - I am not explaining things properly and am failing to get my point across

Obviously apart from family etc, I am first and foremost a CITY fan - after that 2nd and above most other things a scum hater.

Not everyone needs to be (IMO) but for those that are there is no need for others to be 'suspicious' - it was that reference I objected to

[Ted Hughes]

Where's the quotes? If memory serves me right they weren't keen on the bin dippers qualifying when they won the cup and didn't get the league placing - this would also go against the trend in that I think I'm right in that World Cup Winners don't automatically qualify like they used to?

Titleholder

2.03 The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group
stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic
championship.

a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the
UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League
through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the
association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically 2
transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round
where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the
titleholder's national association is entitled in the UEFA Champions
League and the UEFA Europa League does not change.

b) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the
UEFA Champions League and does not qualify for the UEFA Champions
League or UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the
lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League
representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League
(into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the
national association of the titleholder is entitled to one additional place in
the UEFA Europa League.

Typical nonsensical UEFA legislation; if a team plays better than the Champion's Lg winners over a season & edges them out of qualification, they are punished because a club fromn their league has won the Champion's League. Utterly fucking puddled.

[ashton287]

Not suggesting anyone is a "bigger" blue than anyone else - I find that kind of one-upmanship pretty lame to be honest - but I cannot understand people who would put their dislike for the rags ahead of City. It makes no sense at all to me.

I live within earshot of the rags' shitty swamp, most of my mates in Chorlton are rags (the place is rag fucking central) so i have to put up with their shite all the time.

I'd reiterate ADVT's point though, if it was Rags v Spuds in the CL final and our CL qualification depended on a scum victory I would 1000% want them to win, no second thoughts at all.

I do not want to make a big thing of it - but the suggestion of 'being suspicious' seemed to be inferring something in terms of quality of a being a CITY fan....

Maybe it is a generational thing, I am Salford born and bred and for my generation (IMO and experience) it is not possible to be a CITY fan without being a scum hater - but I do not feel the need to comment on those that are not the same

So I was just pointing out that there are die-hard blues out there who should not 'arouse suspicions' just because they have such a level of hate for the scum.

It is all about opinions - you (and others) have yours (I sometimes dispair over the seeminly endless posts that I see on CITY forums that overly sensitive and PC about slagging off the scum) - I have mine - and mine (IMO) should not arouse 'suspicions' - anyway - as I say I do not mean to make a thing out of it, it was just an unnecessary comment (IMO)

Is that YOUR opinion then????? Just asking as i dont think you have made it quite clear.

[Alioune DVToure]

Where's the quotes? If memory serves me right they weren't keen on the bin dippers qualifying when they won the cup and didn't get the league placing - this would also go against the trend in that I think I'm right in that World Cup Winners don't automatically qualify like they used to?

Titleholder

2.03 The UEFA Champions League titleholder is guaranteed a place in the group
stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic
championship.

a) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the
UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Europa League
through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the
association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically 2
transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the latest possible round
where there is a vacancy). In this case, the number of places to which the
titleholder's national association is entitled in the UEFA Champions
League and the UEFA Europa League does not change.

b) If the titleholder comes from an association entitled to four places in the
UEFA Champions League and does not qualify for the UEFA Champions
League or UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the
lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League
representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League
(into the latest possible round where there is a vacancy). In this case, the
national association of the titleholder is entitled to one additional place in
the UEFA Europa League.

Typical nonsensical UEFA legislation; if a team plays better than the Champion's Lg winners over a season & edges them out of qualification, they are punished because a club fromn their league has won the Champion's League. Utterly fucking puddled.

The law only exists thanks to the whingeing bindippers in '05.

[DoomMerchant]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

I LOLZ at this but the answer's pretty obvious as it goes.

Rags-Spurs CL final...nightmare scenario, but i'd be rooting for Rags like crazy, esp. since i hate Spurs so much. Win-Win really. Like giving the Rags a knife to slice their own throat with giving us CL and the chance to take it to another level.

is this really hard for some people? I know i'll have a "unique" perspective on several levels, but FFS i love City, and i want City to gain from ANYTHING else that happens in football. i could give a fucl if the Rags hoist one more CL trophy...it'll prollee be their last for 2 decades. It's on like Donkey Kong. Come on CITY!

cheers

[Kladze]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

I LOLZ at this but the answer's pretty obvious as it goes.

Rags-Spurs CL final...nightmare scenario, but i'd be rooting for Rags like crazy, esp. since i hate Spurs so much. Win-Win really. Like giving the Rags a knife to slice their own throat with giving us CL and the chance to take it to another level.

is this really hard for some people? I know i'll have a "unique" perspective on several levels, but FFS i love City, and i want City to gain from ANYTHING else that happens in football. i could give a fucl if the Rags hoist one more CL trophy...it'll prollee be their last for 2 decades. It's on like Donkey Kong. Come on CITY!

cheers

My "pretty obvious" answer would have been that I'd want US to qualify Doomy, so would want rags to win.

................ I wouldn't cheer them on though.

[mcfc1632]

It is all about opinions - you (and others) have yours (I sometimes dispair over the seeminly endless posts that I see on CITY forums that overly sensitive and PC about slagging off the scum) - I have mine - and mine (IMO) should not arouse 'suspicions' - anyway - as I say I do not mean to make a thing out of it, it was just an unnecessary comment (IMO)[/quote]

Is that YOUR opinion then????? Just asking as i dont think you have made it quite clear.[/quote]


Very good and fair enough - it was just that given I was picking up a point that some posters should not disregard the opinions of others - then I best be clear that I am not doing the same - somewhat over-laboured it though!

[TheGOAT]

Nightmare scenario - we finish 4th, behind Chelsea. Rags play spurs in the CL final. Who do you support?

I feel dirty for even having to think about it.

I support Manchester City!