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Re: Baconface

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:11 pm

john68 wrote:
Avalon wrote:Strange as it may seem, I think he made the right decision. The FA needs to stop holding hands above their referees. Managers should be able to criticise a ref when he performs badly or made a terrible decision. If, in replays shown afterward, it shows the ref made the right decision, than fine, fine hime, ban him, whatever. If he's right, then the no harm done. The referee is human, so he has to accept he'll make mistakes. The FA doesn't do this and treats them like they're made of glass and can't take anything. Seriously, if Man City doesn't get a penalty that it should have and could have won a difficult match, Mancini should be able to tell the media that the ref mucked it up. Apparently freedom of speech doesn't apply in England if it means somebody's feelings might get hurt. With somebody's feelings I, of course, refer to 1 individual.


I agree about the FA acting all precious about the referees and officials. They should be available to the press to answer questions on their performance and decisions.
Along the same lines, a coach should not be able to dodge his public duty to the game either.
The likes of taggart ( and he is not alone) use the press when it suits them.


The trouble is it's ALWAYS the refs fault.

Imagine if Ferguson had been interviewed after the last game? Would his side have lost because they were complete shite, lost every tackle, Giggs crossed the ball like Kolarov pissed, Smalling played like Wes Brown, Rooney did fuck all, Carrick played like Scholes' dad or would the whole thing be down to the fact that Phil Dowd failed to send off Carragher?
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Re: Baconface

Postby john68 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:25 pm

That is not strictly true Ted...On occasions it is the pitche's fault...or the grey shirts...or the ref's assistant...or some bloke who nips out for a piss when the game is on and distracts the players...or possibly the woman that didn't hoover the team coach properly.

One thing that you can be certain of is that it is never ever ever the fault of the players...or taggart who got his preparation wrong.

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Re: Baconface

Postby Avalon » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:39 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
john68 wrote:
Avalon wrote:Strange as it may seem, I think he made the right decision. The FA needs to stop holding hands above their referees. Managers should be able to criticise a ref when he performs badly or made a terrible decision. If, in replays shown afterward, it shows the ref made the right decision, than fine, fine hime, ban him, whatever. If he's right, then the no harm done. The referee is human, so he has to accept he'll make mistakes. The FA doesn't do this and treats them like they're made of glass and can't take anything. Seriously, if Man City doesn't get a penalty that it should have and could have won a difficult match, Mancini should be able to tell the media that the ref mucked it up. Apparently freedom of speech doesn't apply in England if it means somebody's feelings might get hurt. With somebody's feelings I, of course, refer to 1 individual.


I agree about the FA acting all precious about the referees and officials. They should be available to the press to answer questions on their performance and decisions.
Along the same lines, a coach should not be able to dodge his public duty to the game either.
The likes of taggart ( and he is not alone) use the press when it suits them.


The trouble is it's ALWAYS the refs fault.


Hence, if replays show afterwards the comments made by Fergie are incorrect, they can decide to fine/ban him. Everybody should be able to voice their opinion. If he's right, then the FA should take steps to the ref, if he's wrong, the FA should tell him he was wrong criticising the ref's correct decision and warn/fine/ban him. It is such a simple solution, it is child's play.

As for managers talking to the press, I don't understand how it is anybody's duty. He gets hired to manage the club, not talk to the media. Maybe I am old school like that, but I wouldn't care of Mancini couldn't be bothered talking to the media every now and then. Post match comments from managers are usually one of the following anyway:

1. Random excuse as to why they lost
2. Random excuse as to why they performed poorly
3. Comment on why they deserved to win
4. Comment that they deserved to win
5. Comment about the congested fixture
6. Comment that they played well

So, instead the FA should look at what the managers said, compare to what happened on the pitch/analyse the footage and then decide who was right and take the appropriate action, instead of defending their refs even when they are BLATANTLY wrong, read Rooney elbowing.
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