The Mad Hatter Saloon - City New York HQ

[CitizenYank]

The Mad Hatter has always had the reputation as THE meeting place for us stateside blues. Know quite a few
people who have gone there and told me it is great. Have heard there is a smiler place in LA, but never find that
business sends me that way. I would definitely go to a blue-friendly watering hole in Seattle.

[JonnyAsh]

How long has The Mad Hatter been a city establishment?
I was over in New York in 2006 and could not find a bar open in the morning that was showing the game kick off was at 7.00 in the morning in New York.I ended up in a burger king going online to find out what was happening.Nightmare of a morning.Wish i had knon about the mad hatter.Plan to go again and will without a doubt be seeking out this place for a few pints.

I've hardly been there this season, apologies chaps, but the City fans used to hang out at Nevada Smiths, which is a big soccer theme pub, but they wanted their own, and so i think the season before last, someone asked the guy who runs the Hatter, a top bloke called Michael, and he agreed to the City Fans using it as a base. i don't think he knew what he was letting himself in for, but it is THE place to go. great beer and great food, with a big outdoor area for those hot Manhattan days we never got back in the UK

[s1ty m]

Can you post the address please. I am going to NYC in July and would like to pay a visit. Do they show basbeall too? I am going to at least 5 Yankees games. I love them slightly less than City. Staying at the Grand Hyatt above Grand Central Station, 10 nights.

Posh place!
The pub is on the west side of Third Avenue between 26th & 27th Streets. Closest subway is the 6 train (to 28th St.) then walk three blocks east. Buses go down Lexington Avenue which is right by the Hyatt. Walkable in ten minutes from Grand Central. Bus back up Third Avenue to 42nd.
But the Yankees? They're the ManU of baseball and just as arrogant. Get out to Queens on the 7 train and see the lovable Mets.

I see the Red Sox as the scum of baseball. Yankees are blue and white. I know what you're getting at though. The Mets are just shit. Made up colours, made up team.

How on earth do you consider the Red Sox the scum of baseball, the Yankees are U****d of baseball, they even sell their bloody shirts in the shop. Way off base mate, Yankees are wankers of the highest order.

I have been in many a Yankees clubhouse and not ever seen a rag shirt, a fridge magnet, pin badge, nothing. This so-called relationship came to jack. The wankers of baseball? The way ESPN and the media crawl up their backsides of Boston reminds me of The Rags in so many ways. The history of the Yankees is unbelievable, just jaw dropping. I fucking love them.

The other post about the Mets being heirs to the Dodgers, I can't agree with that though the colours I now understand; though, it is called Mets ble and Mets orange, like invented our lazer blue a few years ago. The Dodgers played in Brooklyn, Mets in Queens. The Dodgers are still going strong. The Mets were invented in about 1960ish to bring National League baseball back to NYC. Nothing grand or old about that. I love NYC, so do root for the Mets when they're on. I love the sport, frankly. I hit against a machine that I got for our school. It can pitch up to 99mph, which is insane. How pitchers can do it is unreal. I can take 75! I have to say though, playing the game has blown out my shoulder, elbow and back.

[markuse]

The Yankees are so the U----d of baseball, much more than the Red Sox. Their support comes only from out of NY people who like to glory-hunt from their bases in Connecticut, RI etc.

The Mets are the heirs of both the Dodgers and the Giants after they moved westwards. They were formed in 1962, true, but even since their first historic 40-120 season they've become precious in the hearts of New Yorkers through 1969-1973-1986-2000-2001 up to the big implosions of 2007/2008.

Plus they brought bak baseball in Brooklyn in 2001, if you're going there in July I strongly reccomend a day out at the beach in Coney followed by a Cyclones' game at MCU Park

[s1ty m]

The Yankees are so the U----d of baseball, much more than the Red Sox. Their support comes only from out of NY people who like to glory-hunt from their bases in Connecticut, RI etc.

The Mets are the heirs of both the Dodgers and the Giants after they moved westwards. They were formed in 1962, true, but even since their first historic 40-120 season they've become precious in the hearts of New Yorkers through 1969-1973-1986-2000-2001 up to the big implosions of 2007/2008.

Plus they brought bak baseball in Brooklyn in 2001, if you're going there in July I strongly reccomend a day out at the beach in Coney followed by a Cyclones' game at MCU Park

I've been to Coney and, yeah, it's good. The Cyclone is superb. Maybe see a Cyclones game too. I fancy getting the ferry to see the SI Yankees and that view. I think we get to see a game at Citi Field too. I understand the heirs thing, perhaps I am splitting hairs with you. Ooh, pun! I just fail to see a connection with either of the 2 clubs that moved away. Which in itself is appalling.

[s1ty m]

The Yankees are so the U----d of baseball, much more than the Red Sox. Their support comes only from out of NY people who like to glory-hunt from their bases in Connecticut, RI etc.

The Mets are the heirs of both the Dodgers and the Giants after they moved westwards. They were formed in 1962, true, but even since their first historic 40-120 season they've become precious in the hearts of New Yorkers through 1969-1973-1986-2000-2001 up to the big implosions of 2007/2008.

Plus they brought bak baseball in Brooklyn in 2001, if you're going there in July I strongly reccomend a day out at the beach in Coney followed by a Cyclones' game at MCU Park

I think the point is this. The Yankees are not United. They play a different sport and where diifferent colours. I am as blue as the next city fan, my loathing of the rags knows no bounds. But they are nothing to do with the New York Yankees. Do the Cowboys qualify as rangs too? Or the steelers, who have won most. Nah, different country, totally different sports. I am standing by my Boston-media love-in similarities. And the red. All that red, could not bring myself to waer it. Makes women look cheap and men effeminate.

[dazby]

There are three clubs in the world I hate. Man United, Brisbane Broncos and the New York Yankees.

[s1ty m]

There are three clubs in the world I hate. Man United, Brisbane Broncos and the New York Yankees.

Utterly irrational. You been to NYC daz? I know Aussies are well travelled. Went to Yankee Stadium on a tour, knowing nothing about the sport. I tell ya, hairs on the back of my neck uprooted. As a lover of most sports, I could appreciate the history; unparalleled in professional team sport.

[zuricity]

I don't see the relevance of introducing the red sox , Yankees , or whatever to the argument. At the mad hatter, they have tried to quickly and steadfastly build a place for city supporters in the NYC conurbation. Which is about 18 mill people, if you include the whole "tri - state area". It is quite normal in the US to see things develop quickly and why not?

The fact is, city fans now have a home in one of the greatest Cities in the world.

What more do you want, the timing, rather the coming together of the events with city. The unique nature of the bars location, for example, seems to fit to the way we are.

It is all too easy , but why anyone would want to compare united to the Yankees is beyond me.

[Michigan Blue]

Clearly the Detroit Tigers are City's twin club; over 110 years of history, Northern industrial city, wear (a shade of) blue, historic ground recently closed and bulldozed, glory years of 1900s, mid-1930s, & late-1960s, crap years of late-1990s/early-2000s, unfancied by major sports media, supported by Michigan Blue, etc.

Back on topic, the City stronghold nearest to me is Opera Bob's in Toronto, and this thread has me seriously considering making the trip across the border to be among Blues for the final.

[s1ty m]

I don't see the relevance of introducing the red sox , Yankees , or whatever to the argument. At the mad hatter, they have tried to quickly and steadfastly build a place for city supporters in the NYC conurbation. Which is about 18 mill people, if you include the whole "tri - state area". It is quite normal in the US to see things develop quickly and why not?

The fact is, city fans now have a home in one of the greatest Cities in the world.

What more do you want, the timing, rather the coming together of the events with city. The unique nature of the bars location, for example, seems to fit to the way we are.

It is all too easy , but why anyone would want to compare united to the Yankees is beyond me.

IMHO, a city without a serious rival for that title.

[s1ty m]

I don't see the relevance of introducing the red sox , Yankees , or whatever to the argument. At the mad hatter, they have tried to quickly and steadfastly build a place for city supporters in the NYC conurbation. Which is about 18 mill people, if you include the whole "tri - state area". It is quite normal in the US to see things develop quickly and why not?

The fact is, city fans now have a home in one of the greatest Cities in the world.

What more do you want, the timing, rather the coming together of the events with city. The unique nature of the bars location, for example, seems to fit to the way we are.

It is all too easy , but why anyone would want to compare united to the Yankees is beyond me.

I totally agree, daft.

[dazby]

Cos they are both cunts who think they can do what they want. I hated the rags before I went to Manchester. What diff does it make? The Yankees are cunts. Pure and simple.

[DoomMerchant]

I don't see the relevance of introducing the red sox , Yankees , or whatever to the argument. At the mad hatter, they have tried to quickly and steadfastly build a place for city supporters in the NYC conurbation. Which is about 18 mill people, if you include the whole "tri - state area". It is quite normal in the US to see things develop quickly and why not?

The fact is, city fans now have a home in one of the greatest Cities in the world.

What more do you want, the timing, rather the coming together of the events with city. The unique nature of the bars location, for example, seems to fit to the way we are.

It is all too easy , but why anyone would want to compare united to the Yankees is beyond me.

I totally agree, daft.

The Mad Hatter is a fantastic place.

The Yankees are fuclin douchers with a profile very similar to the rags. As are the Dallas Cowboys in football. Cunting fuck sporting franchises whom hard working folks love to hate. FACT.

[ant london]

Can you silly cunts fuck off and talk baseball in offwankingtopic

this was a salute to a brilliant pub and a great set of lads....not a load of balls about an irrelevance

[dazby]

Chill out drama queen.

[s1ty m]

Chill out drama queen.

Anyway, come on City!

[ant london]

Chill out drama queen.

Anyway, come on City!

eggggsaaaactly!

I am still rocking after Saturday!

[Alioune DVToure]

I'll definitely make the trip up next time I'm in Philly. In the end I watched the game with andeez nutz and his fiancée in an 'Irish' bar in West Chester PA and we had a top time. There was a group of 5 English munes there (surprising in such a small town) but they were good lads and very gracious in defeat - more than can be said for Snoop Duck and that lesbian from Shameless.

[DoomMerchant]

Dear Anthony,

Since you've started this fantastically rendered thread about the fine establishment known as The Mad Hatter Saloon, I thought it would be appropriate to inquire as to when you might be there next?

I am working through some affairs of my own, and if things break right for me and i've just a bit of luck and serendipity I might find myself in New York City Monday next, and was wondering if perhaps you and yours might be interested in a meet up of sorts over a few beverages and some football? I noticed that the Manchester City Football Club, one that i must admit has grown on me over the years, is playing a match on that very day! Strangest of circumstances of course, and I'm sure you'd agree that there isn't a finer event that a couple of gentlemen could watch on the television, even while in the United States of America, which historically hasn't been much of a supporter of the beautiful game -- although there is definitely a mafia presence there as well but i digress, but more on that later i hope in person. Do I have some tales to tell!

Anyway, Mr Anthony, i hope this note finds you well and that if you are so kind you might consider that our time together at The Mad Hatter could be of benefit to us both on several fronts, some of which i am not prepared to divulge in this note, and though it does seem a bit cryptic i can assure you that it's nothing as sensational as the news you will share I am sure, since I am a simple man without much vice or folly in my life of late -- but perhaps we can change that! Oh, I do make myself laugh sometimes, and they say laughter is the best medicine although it might be that i'm trying to dole it out in keg-sized portions these days and most of it is falling on deaf ears. What's a man to do?

Respectfully,

DM