Scholes vs de jong,

[DoomMerchant]

The press didn't care so much about Scholes foul or the nature of it, it was the fact that the red card helped cost them the game.

If it had happened at 2-0 up (or down) with 5 minutes to go, it would have been ignored. He's been slated not for trying to go through Zabaleta, but for getting sent off for a stupid challenge.

isn't that really the headline from his action though to be fair? He may have cost his team a chance at an historic treble. Regardless of the "degree" of how poor the foul was, the headline has to be that he fucked his team out of a shot to win the match.

cheers

[ronk]

The press didn't care so much about Scholes foul or the nature of it, it was the fact that the red card helped cost them the game.

If it had happened at 2-0 up (or down) with 5 minutes to go, it would have been ignored. He's been slated not for trying to go through Zabaleta, but for getting sent off for a stupid challenge.

isn't that really the headline from his action though to be fair? He may have cost his team a chance at an historic treble. Regardless of the "degree" of how poor the foul was, the headline has to be that he fucked his team out of a shot to win the match.

cheers

Exactly, they wouldn't have seen it any differently if he'd taken out a gun and shot Zabaleta. The only thing about that foul was that it was blatant enough that they (mostly) couldn't argue he didn't deserve a red card.

de Jong was in trouble for breaking Ben Arfa's leg in a legal tackle, but more because of lingering controversy from the world cup and comments afterwards. It wasn't a big deal with the commentators or pundits during the game, it was only in the press conference afterwards did it become something worthy of headlines.

[Florida Blue]

I think the fact Scholes did get sent off and Nigel not so much a yellow was a big part of the bias/media noise too. Had Nigel been sent off, or had it not been so early in the new season with the World Cup so fresh, it probably would have been tamer reaction. Or if Afra had just cut his leg like Zabs, not shattered it.

[Rag_hater]

The press didn't care so much about Scholes foul or the nature of it, it was the fact that the red card helped cost them the game.

If it had happened at 2-0 up (or down) with 5 minutes to go, it would have been ignored. He's been slated not for trying to go through Zabaleta, but for getting sent off for a stupid challenge.

isn't that really the headline from his action though to be fair? He may have cost his team a chance at an historic treble. Regardless of the "degree" of how poor the foul was, the headline has to be that he fucked his team out of a shot to win the match.

cheers

Exactly, they wouldn't have seen it any differently if he'd taken out a gun and shot Zabaleta. The only thing about that foul was that it was blatant enough that they (mostly) couldn't argue he didn't deserve a red card.

de Jong was in trouble for breaking Ben Arfa's leg in a legal tackle, but more because of lingering controversy from the world cup and comments afterwards. It wasn't a big deal with the commentators or pundits during the game, it was only in the press conference afterwards did it become something worthy of headlines.

I think Nigel's tackle wasn't (at the moment it happened) slaugtered by all the pundits because nobody in the ground or on the pitch really saw what happened.It was only the fact that the different camera angles and replays of the incident afterwards allowed analysis of the incident that it was discovered how bad the tackle was.What the ginger twat did was plain as day and obvious to see and hence I think the there wasn't as much made of the tackle days after.At the time he got a red so what more could have been done.
What needed to be discussed in Nigels case was not brought to light until afterwards and Arfa ending up in hospital mean't the story dragged on.
Although the tackle by the ginger twat may have been as reckless the outcome did not drag out as long and therefore I think less of a story.

[bigblue]

Don't want to start a new thread for this, but thought it was quite funny:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... tter-abuse

What great fans they are!