***Premier League - Confirmed Summer Transfers 2011***

[Mark (Blue Army)]

Sunderland have confirmed that they have agreed a fee with Liverpool for Jordan Henderson. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,20876_6970320,00.html

[Dameerto]

Sunderland were reluctant to sell the homegrown talent [Henderson]

Bollox, they've been trying to talk him up all season in the hopes of getting some interest.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

Sunderland winger Ahmed Elmohamady has signed a permanent deal with the club after a season-long loan. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 42,00.html

[aaron bond]

Sunderland have confirmed that they have agreed a fee with Liverpool for Jordan Henderson. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,20876_6970320,00.html

£20m is an absolutely ridiculous fee, just like £35m for Carroll was. Liverpool might be spending money but at the moment I can't see how this it going to propel them back into the group of elite teams. We paid £6m for AJ who was probably at the same stage of his career when we bought him as Henderson and Carroll were when Liverpool bought them.

If you're paying such high fees, you should be getting world class talent. Liverpool paid £55m for Henderson and Carroll, we paid £50m for Tevez and Silva.

[bobby brows]

Sunderland have confirmed that they have agreed a fee with Liverpool for Jordan Henderson. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,20876_6970320,00.html

£20m is an absolutely ridiculous fee, just like £35m for Carroll was. Liverpool might be spending money but at the moment I can't see how this it going to propel them back into the group of elite teams. We paid £6m for AJ who was probably at the same stage of his career when we bought him as Henderson and Carroll were when Liverpool bought them.

If you're paying such high fees, you should be getting world class talent. Liverpool paid £55m for Henderson and Carroll, we paid £50m for Tevez and Silva.

And people wonder why british clubs choose to look abroad!

I remember Sven getting criticised for bringing 8 foreign players in and said that he'd inquired about 4 england players, was told two were not for sale and was quoted astronimical prices for the other 2.

I'll take Dave Silva over anyone in the England team any day

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Sunderland have confirmed that they have agreed a fee with Liverpool for Jordan Henderson. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,20876_6970320,00.html

£20m is an absolutely ridiculous fee, just like £35m for Carroll was. Liverpool might be spending money but at the moment I can't see how this it going to propel them back into the group of elite teams. We paid £6m for AJ who was probably at the same stage of his career when we bought him as Henderson and Carroll were when Liverpool bought them.

If you're paying such high fees, you should be getting world class talent. Liverpool paid £55m for Henderson and Carroll, we paid £50m for Tevez and Silva.

And people wonder why british clubs choose to look abroad!

I remember Sven getting criticised for bringing 8 foreign players in and said that he'd inquired about 4 england players, was told two were not for sale and was quoted astronimical prices for the other 2.
I'll take Dave Silva over anyone in the England team any day

I thought that was ridiculous at the time. We had limited pot of money and desperately needed completely new spine of team. Some were hits and some were misses but I still think Sven did fantastic job. What if we had spent money on some second rate lower league "goal machines"?

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Only good signings Sven made were Petrov and Corluka.

Geovanni actually was a very good player when he played, but i'll never understand why he didn't play more.

[ronk]

Only good signings Sven made were Petrov and Corluka.

Geovanni actually was a very good player when he played, but i'll never understand why he didn't play more.

I don't see it that way. Sven was building for the longer term, not all the signings were immediate. Elano was a success under Sven, a big one. He was even a success at first for Hughes and it really only soured as the project changed from the one he was signed for.

Can Bojinov be considered a bad signing because he was freakishly unlucky with injuries? Bianchi certainly didn't work out, but some of the others have done okay over time: Caicedo has proven his ability, we made a profit on Garrido and Gelson was maturing last I saw of him.

Sven gelled the team together well initially and we were building a team with potential. That they didn't fit into the change of plans doesn't mean they were bad.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Only good signings Sven made were Petrov and Corluka.

Geovanni actually was a very good player when he played, but i'll never understand why he didn't play more.

I don't see it that way. Sven was building for the longer term, not all the signings were immediate. Elano was a success under Sven, a big one. He was even a success at first for Hughes and it really only soured as the project changed from the one he was signed for.

Can Bojinov be considered a bad signing because he was freakishly unlucky with injuries? Bianchi certainly didn't work out, but some of the others have done okay over time: Caicedo has proven his ability, we made a profit on Garrido and Gelson was maturing last I saw of him.

Sven gelled the team together well initially and we were building a team with potential. That they didn't fit into the change of plans doesn't mean they were bad.

Exactly spot on Ronk.

It's easy to say NOW that we are where we are with the money we have got that "they were all crap". Sure, we didn't have Silva or Tevez or Kompany but we were in COMPLETELY different position when Sven took over. Our team was in shambles when Pearce left and Sven had couple of WEEKS to build a team that could stay up. Not only did he do that but took us to upper midtable. I repeat, he had couple of WEEKS to build that team.

Do some people think that Sven couldn't identify talent like Tevez and instead brought Bianchi in?

[Mark (Blue Army)]

Phil Jones has signed a five-year contract with Manchester United. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 52,00.html

[ronk]

Exactly spot on Ronk.

It's easy to say NOW that we are where we are with the money we have got that "they were all crap". Sure, we didn't have Silva or Tevez or Kompany but we were in COMPLETELY different position when Sven took over. Our team was in shambles when Pearce left and Sven had couple of WEEKS to build a team that could stay up. Not only did he do that but took us to upper midtable. I repeat, he had couple of WEEKS to build that team.

Do some people think that Sven couldn't identify talent like Tevez and instead brought Bianchi in?

£5.2m was huge money to be spending on an unknown teenager, but Caicedo really shows what we were looking at. Some (many) fans saw Samaras mark II especially after Bianchi was already on his way back to Italy. We'd been taken over by a billionaire but there wasn't nearly as much money as we all thought. It had to be spent on young players. At a time when we desperately needed a forward, we picked up a long term option and that was never really made clear (even if it was actually said) to fans. History has shown that he's a good player, just not so much for us. Bojinov played 34 games this season between Parma and Bulgaria, it was a bad run of injuries that caused him to miss his chance because we were forced to replace him rather than he wasn't any good.

That said, the Benjani deal make us look like absolute mugs. Spurs selling him and buying Defoe for the same-ish money looked bad, really bad, especially when it dawned on us that we'd made a mistake with the transfer still up in the air and we realised that we needed him anyway for the rest of the season. It was really where things started to go downhill for Sven.

Spurs had it right in the transfer market, always buying and selling but still trying to build a stable team. We were either buying players because we had cash or selling players because we needed it. When we had money we only sold surplus players and never worked that hard to get money. We could have gotten big money for Elano after the first season, when times were tight that was the deal to make, but hold Geovanni. There was good money available for Michael Johnson but maybe that was more complicated.

[Wooders]

It was Portsmouth but good points

[Alioune DVToure]

Only good signings Sven made were Petrov and Corluka.

Geovanni actually was a very good player when he played, but i'll never understand why he didn't play more.

I don't see it that way. Sven was building for the longer term, not all the signings were immediate. [highlight]Elano was a success under Sven, a big one. He was even a success at first for Hughes and it really only soured as the project changed from the one he was signed for.[/highlight]

Can Bojinov be considered a bad signing because he was freakishly unlucky with injuries? Bianchi certainly didn't work out, but some of the others have done okay over time: Caicedo has proven his ability, we made a profit on Garrido and Gelson was maturing last I saw of him.

Sven gelled the team together well initially and we were building a team with potential. That they didn't fit into the change of plans doesn't mean they were bad.

I was Elano's biggest fan (partly because we'd gone years without any craft in midfield), but even I have to admit that he was pretty shit from January onwards in the Sven era.

He had a few moments under Hughes - Hamburg and West Ham at home spring to mind - but he never again hit the heights of September-November 2007.

[kennyboy]

http://www.click-manchester.com/sport/m ... rekik.html

yeeeyyyyy

[Wonderwall]

http://www.click-manchester.com/sport/manchester-city/1213299-manchester-city-sign-feyenoord-wunderkid-karim-rekik.html

yeeeyyyyy

I know absolutely ZERO about the yougsters we are bringing in, lets hope our scouting network is starting to get us some future gems

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

http://www.click-manchester.com/sport/manchester-city/1213299-manchester-city-sign-feyenoord-wunderkid-karim-rekik.html

yeeeyyyyy

I know absolutely ZERO about the yougsters we are bringing in, lets hope our scouting network is starting to get us some future gems

Like I said at the time, new squad rules would only lead into this and ones suffering will be the players. Rich clubs will bring in kids before they turn 18 so that they will be counted as "homegrown". Some of them will make it, most will not. Problem is that these kids will be left without proper education or anything to fall back to.

Another fucking stupid, shortsighted UEFA rule.

[Ted Hughes]

http://www.click-manchester.com/sport/manchester-city/1213299-manchester-city-sign-feyenoord-wunderkid-karim-rekik.html

yeeeyyyyy

I know absolutely ZERO about the yougsters we are bringing in, lets hope our scouting network is starting to get us some future gems

Like I said at the time, new squad rules would only lead into this and ones suffering will be the players. Rich clubs will bring in kids before they turn 18 so that they will be counted as "homegrown". Some of them will make it, most will not. Problem is that these kids will be left without proper education or anything to fall back to.

Another fucking stupid, shortsighted UEFA rule.

Tbf, City's youth set up tries very hard to look after the kids & give them other options so they're better prepared for life in general but I very much agree on the whole. This was always going to happen & the more those arseholes at UEFA fall over themselves to protect the old guard, the more other clubs will look for other ways of gaining an advantage. We will be all over this kind of thing in the coming years, you can guarantee it.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

Norwich have signed defender Ritchie De Laet on a season-long loan from Manchester United. List updated
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 31,00.html

[Esky]

Demba Ba's signed a 3 year deal with Newcastle.

The Nolan move is still a mystery to me but Ba is a good capture by Pardew.

[Nigels Tackle]

Demba Ba's signed a 3 year deal with Newcastle.

The Nolan move is still a mystery to me but Ba is a good capture by Pardew.

ba, cabaye, marveaux signed and ben arfa to come back. think newcastle will do ok next season...