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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Mase » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:53 am

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Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Dzeko shouldn't have played tonight. We should have gone for an extra midfielder, such as Nasri or even Barry and put Balotelli upfront. Hindsight's a wonderful thing though.


I thought that as soon as I saw the line up.

I don't think Balo and Dzeko work. Aguero and Dzeko certainly do.


Agreed. Sergio does all the leg work and Dzeko pounces on the chances created. Brilliant combo.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:55 am

Mase wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Dzeko shouldn't have played tonight. We should have gone for an extra midfielder, such as Nasri or even Barry and put Balotelli upfront. Hindsight's a wonderful thing though.


I thought that as soon as I saw the line up.

I don't think Balo and Dzeko work. Aguero and Dzeko certainly do.


Agreed. Sergio does all the leg work and Dzeko pounces on the chances created. Brilliant combo.


We could all see that we needed Aguero on sooner. I just hope that we at least trounce Liverpool as a result of resting Micah and Aguero for what was our crunch Champs League game.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby stommy » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:36 am

he sucks, should sell him this winter
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Avalon » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:47 am

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Avalon wrote:I don't think he should. I think Dzeko should remain in between the two defenders, or near them and not start running around. He has great ball control and has the ability to release players. A few times I saw him in areas I wasn't expecting him, but quite often he just didn't get the ball at all, even when he was available. Dzeko didn't have a good match though and I am not trying to protect him, but he could have had a few more balls his way.

Then again, at the end of the match, Milner and Zaba had oceans of space on the right side, yet we were all on the left. One cross to the opposide of the patch would have created plenty of chances.


Was that bit serious? Or were you making a joke you cheeky monkey ;)


Ok, maybe not great ( :P ), but his touch last night was quite good and has been, apart from the odd match this season.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:17 am

Mase wrote:Both similar in stature and build. But can anyone point out the difference in play between the two?


Point out the difference? Yep they're both completely different types of players.

Cavani likes to play between the lines, constantly roaming making himself difficult to mark and has electric pace.

Dzeko likes to play off the shoulder of the CB and use his strength to outmuscle to create opportunities for himself, he's also a threat from crosses, if we put any in.

Dzeko was more or less redundant last night because we lacked the urgency in midfield to get the ball to him quickly enough to try isolate him one on one with a defender. When we won possession we fucked about with it in the centre of the park, which in turn allowed Napoli time to regroup and cut off all supply lines.

The only other way of supplying any decent ball to him then was from the wide areas, but we were lacking here also. The few times we did get beyond their wide men the quality of delivery was shit, to say the least.

I'm surprised Mancini took so long to change things up but let's not make a scapegoat out of any one player, they were collectively shit last night in the second half.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Mase » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:21 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Both similar in stature and build. But can anyone point out the difference in play between the two?


Point out the difference? Yep they're both completely different types of players.

Cavani likes to play between the lines, constantly roaming making himself difficult to mark and has electric pace.

Dzeko likes to play off the shoulder of the CB and use his strength to outmuscle to create opportunities for himself, he's also a threat from crosses, if we put any in.

Dzeko was more or less redundant last night because we lacked the urgency in midfield to get the ball to him quickly enough to try isolate him one on one with a defender. When we won possession we fucked about with it in the centre of the park, which in turn allowed Napoli time to regroup and cut off all supply lines.

The only other way of supplying any decent ball to him then was from the wide areas, but we were lacking here also. The few times we did get beyond their wide men the quality of delivery was shit, to say the least.

I'm surprised Mancini took so long to change things up but let's not make a scapegoat out of any one player, they were collectively shit last night in the second half.


Micah plays at right back matey.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:27 am

Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Both similar in stature and build. But can anyone point out the difference in play between the two?


Point out the difference? Yep they're both completely different types of players.

Cavani likes to play between the lines, constantly roaming making himself difficult to mark and has electric pace.

Dzeko likes to play off the shoulder of the CB and use his strength to outmuscle to create opportunities for himself, he's also a threat from crosses, if we put any in.

Dzeko was more or less redundant last night because we lacked the urgency in midfield to get the ball to him quickly enough to try isolate him one on one with a defender. When we won possession we fucked about with it in the centre of the park, which in turn allowed Napoli time to regroup and cut off all supply lines.

The only other way of supplying any decent ball to him then was from the wide areas, but we were lacking here also. The few times we did get beyond their wide men the quality of delivery was shit, to say the least.

I'm surprised Mancini took so long to change things up but let's not make a scapegoat out of any one player, they were collectively shit last night in the second half.


Micah plays at right back matey.


Eh?
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby PeterParker » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:29 am

I like Cavani, but still i can't forget the Cavani that was at Palermo and at the World Cup in Africa. In that time, the ball made him problems two, but then he changed, after he went to Napoli. Here he became world class.
I don't think they are the same type of players. If you would want to compare the uruguayan with someone, do it with Zlatan Ibrahimovic. They both have the same stature, skill and tehnique. Imho, Dzeko is the type of old school poacher, the Duncan Ferguson type. Not well with the ball, but extremly efficient in front of the net, when he has a trequartista lika Aguerro, in his back. Look at Inzaghi, he wasen't the best dribbler in the game, but he scored 80% of his goals from the 16 box and 40% from the 6 yard box and is alongside Raul and G. Muller the best poachers in footballs history.

Cavani is better than Dzeko, but they can't be compared.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Mase » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:59 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Both similar in stature and build. But can anyone point out the difference in play between the two?


Point out the difference? Yep they're both completely different types of players.

Cavani likes to play between the lines, constantly roaming making himself difficult to mark and has electric pace.

Dzeko likes to play off the shoulder of the CB and use his strength to outmuscle to create opportunities for himself, he's also a threat from crosses, if we put any in.

Dzeko was more or less redundant last night because we lacked the urgency in midfield to get the ball to him quickly enough to try isolate him one on one with a defender. When we won possession we fucked about with it in the centre of the park, which in turn allowed Napoli time to regroup and cut off all supply lines.

The only other way of supplying any decent ball to him then was from the wide areas, but we were lacking here also. The few times we did get beyond their wide men the quality of delivery was shit, to say the least.

I'm surprised Mancini took so long to change things up but let's not make a scapegoat out of any one player, they were collectively shit last night in the second half.


Micah plays at right back matey.


Eh?


Sorry bud I thought you were getting Dzeko, who gets pushed off the ball with ease, mixed up with a beast like Micah
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:06 am

Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Both similar in stature and build. But can anyone point out the difference in play between the two?


Point out the difference? Yep they're both completely different types of players.

Cavani likes to play between the lines, constantly roaming making himself difficult to mark and has electric pace.

Dzeko likes to play off the shoulder of the CB and use his strength to outmuscle to create opportunities for himself, he's also a threat from crosses, if we put any in.

Dzeko was more or less redundant last night because we lacked the urgency in midfield to get the ball to him quickly enough to try isolate him one on one with a defender. When we won possession we fucked about with it in the centre of the park, which in turn allowed Napoli time to regroup and cut off all supply lines.

The only other way of supplying any decent ball to him then was from the wide areas, but we were lacking here also. The few times we did get beyond their wide men the quality of delivery was shit, to say the least.

I'm surprised Mancini took so long to change things up but let's not make a scapegoat out of any one player, they were collectively shit last night in the second half.


Micah plays at right back matey.


Eh?


Sorry bud I thought you were getting Dzeko, who gets pushed off the ball with ease, mixed up with a beast like Micah


Dzeko always gets pushed off the ball with ease, does he? You've never seen him outmuscle anyone?
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Mase » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:13 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Dzeko always gets pushed off the ball with ease, does he? You've never seen him outmuscle anyone?


Yeh. I don't like to come all Ragers on you but I'd say 90% of the time he gets pushed off the ball fairly easily mate.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:27 am

Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Dzeko always gets pushed off the ball with ease, does he? You've never seen him outmuscle anyone?


Yeh. I don't like to come all Ragers on you but I'd say 90% of the time he gets pushed off the ball fairly easily mate.


Have to disagree with you mate.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Mase » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:31 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Dzeko always gets pushed off the ball with ease, does he? You've never seen him outmuscle anyone?


Yeh. I don't like to come all Ragers on you but I'd say 90% of the time he gets pushed off the ball fairly easily mate.


Have to disagree with you mate.


That's what the forum is here for :)
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:39 am

Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Dzeko always gets pushed off the ball with ease, does he? You've never seen him outmuscle anyone?


Yeh. I don't like to come all Ragers on you but I'd say 90% of the time he gets pushed off the ball fairly easily mate.


Have to disagree with you mate.


That's what the forum is here for :)


Exactly, and it's good to be able to disagree without it becoming a slanging match. :)
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby guv111 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:23 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
guv111 wrote:It was sunny and warm when Dzeko had his run of two good games.


Erm, do you know anything about geography? Dzeko has played his entire career in countries/regions where the winter temperature drops below -10. His hometown's winter temperature reaches something like -23. Also, at Wolfsburg, his best run of form was in Feb & March, I seem to recall.


I was referring to how long ago it seems to be since Dzeko had his "run" of good games, nothing to do with the weather or climate.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby BlueinBosnia » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:27 pm

guv111 wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
guv111 wrote:It was sunny and warm when Dzeko had his run of two good games.


Erm, do you know anything about geography? Dzeko has played his entire career in countries/regions where the winter temperature drops below -10. His hometown's winter temperature reaches something like -23. Also, at Wolfsburg, his best run of form was in Feb & March, I seem to recall.


I was referring to how long ago it seems to be since Dzeko had his "run" of good games, nothing to do with the weather or climate.

Ok then. Running on a totally different climate clock to you, so I didn't get the analogy.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby guv111 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:32 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
guv111 wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
guv111 wrote:It was sunny and warm when Dzeko had his run of two good games.


Erm, do you know anything about geography? Dzeko has played his entire career in countries/regions where the winter temperature drops below -10. His hometown's winter temperature reaches something like -23. Also, at Wolfsburg, his best run of form was in Feb & March, I seem to recall.


I was referring to how long ago it seems to be since Dzeko had his "run" of good games, nothing to do with the weather or climate.

Ok then. Running on a totally different climate clock to you, so I didn't get the analogy.


No worries. My comment was quite open to interpretation.
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby 1950 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:38 pm

The grass is always greener...
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Dubciteh » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:53 pm

Am i the only that prefers Dzeko to cavani? If cavani came to us he would turn into a bag of shite!
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Re: Cavani Vs Dzeko

Postby Florida Blue » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:39 pm

Cavini looks like a woman?
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