The Reina 'handball'

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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:03 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:absolutely no way imho. arms by his side and the third ricochet off the ball. he's gone in like a defender, not a keeper.

Agreed. At first I was fuming until I realised that the game was fixed. After that, they could'e brought an AK out on Silva without reprecussion.

No way was it handball, but in the same insatnce no way was it a sendng off.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby zuricity » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:04 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know


Atkinson saw it, he was close to the play. It was handball , no doubt about it. As for getting the foot to the ball, so what ? He had his arm out to stop the ball and/ or player getting past him.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:05 pm

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The arm was out there purely to stop the ball, it's not for balance, it's to stop the ball. It stopped the ball. I don't give a fuck if it hit 6 parts of his body 1st, his arm was out there to stop the ball. It's his fault it hit his arm, not ours. We lost a goalscoring opportunity because his arm was stuck out at right angles to his body & stopped the ball going past him.

If you think Joe Hart would have got away with that you are dreaming.


out WHERE? by his side as he does a slide tackle - successfully. jeez - if that had been yaya in the middle of the pitch no-one woulda batted an eyelid.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:07 pm

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Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know


Atkinson saw it, he was close to the play. It was handball , no doubt about it. As for getting the foot to the ball, so what ? He had his arm out to stop the ball and/ or player getting past him.


Don't understand why peol can't see that. He had his arm there in case the ball went there. It did, but it hit his foot first. It's still deliberate.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:08 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
The arm was out there purely to stop the ball, it's not for balance, it's to stop the ball. It stopped the ball. I don't give a fuck if it hit 6 parts of his body 1st, his arm was out there to stop the ball. It's his fault it hit his arm, not ours. We lost a goalscoring opportunity because his arm was stuck out at right angles to his body & stopped the ball going past him.

If you think Joe Hart would have got away with that you are dreaming.


out WHERE? by his side as he does a slide tackle - successfully. jeez - if that had been yaya in the middle of the pitch no-one woulda batted an eyelid.


Watch the fucking replay.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:10 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know


Atkinson saw it, he was close to the play. It was handball , no doubt about it. As for getting the foot to the ball, so what ? He had his arm out to stop the ball and/ or player getting past him.


Don't understand why peol can't see that. He had his arm there in case the ball went there. It did, but it hit his foot first. It's still deliberate.


oh fuck me, beefy reckons the game was fixed (rather than just a poor homer referee - like that's a first) and now ted reckons reina was thinking through after his first successful tackle. i ask again - where should someone's arms be in a slide tackle - other than EXACTLY where his were???
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:11 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
The arm was out there purely to stop the ball, it's not for balance, it's to stop the ball. It stopped the ball. I don't give a fuck if it hit 6 parts of his body 1st, his arm was out there to stop the ball. It's his fault it hit his arm, not ours. We lost a goalscoring opportunity because his arm was stuck out at right angles to his body & stopped the ball going past him.

If you think Joe Hart would have got away with that you are dreaming.


out WHERE? by his side as he does a slide tackle - successfully. jeez - if that had been yaya in the middle of the pitch no-one woulda batted an eyelid.


Watch the fucking replay.


what? like i haven't??? so would that have been a free-kick and a yellow if yaya had done that in midfield????

of course not.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know


Atkinson saw it, he was close to the play. It was handball , no doubt about it. As for getting the foot to the ball, so what ? He had his arm out to stop the ball and/ or player getting past him.


Don't understand why peol can't see that. He had his arm there in case the ball went there. It did, but it hit his foot first. It's still deliberate.


oh fuck me, beefy reckons the game was fixed (rather than just a poor homer referee - like that's a first) and now ted reckons reina was thinking through after his first successful tackle. i ask again - where should someone's arms be in a slide tackle - other than EXACTLY where his were???


Watch the replay. It's not a slide tackle, it's a bloke throwing his whole body in front of the ball with his arm stuck out in case it goes there. He's a fucking goalkeeper for fucks sake, it's not as if it's a new thing that he has to plan before he does it, it's what he would do in the box!!!
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:16 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know


Atkinson saw it, he was close to the play. It was handball , no doubt about it. As for getting the foot to the ball, so what ? He had his arm out to stop the ball and/ or player getting past him.


Don't understand why peol can't see that. He had his arm there in case the ball went there. It did, but it hit his foot first. It's still deliberate.


oh fuck me, beefy reckons the game was fixed (rather than just a poor homer referee - like that's a first) and now ted reckons reina was thinking through after his first successful tackle. i ask again - where should someone's arms be in a slide tackle - other than EXACTLY where his were???


Watch the replay. It's not a slide tackle, it's a bloke throwing his whole body in front of the ball with his arm stuck out in case it goes there. He's a fucking goalkeeper for fucks sake, it's not as if it's a new thing that he has to plan before he does it, it's what he would do in the box!!!


well done ted, you just bored me to death. i have seen the replay - i disagree. and i'm not sulking. goodnight.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby hyper » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:18 pm

Clearly touches it twice with his arm then hand, second one is the more blatant...

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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:21 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
well done ted, you just bored me to death. i have seen the replay - i disagree. and i'm not sulking. goodnight.


I don't believe you. You are sulking hence the 'bored me to death' bit when you have posted just as much as I have on the subject.

I recon you've seen it & now secretly agree with me but don't want to admit it.

But goodnight anyway.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:25 pm

Reina got lucky...


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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Bluechillicars » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:27 pm

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I am new to this site and haven't really commented, bit I can't believe somebody is defending that handball. If it was inside the box the keeper would have been lauded for a great save, spreading himself and getting anything on the ball. That is what makes it deliberate. Anyone who knows football particularly at prem level knows this, even the Liverpool fans I know haven't argued this.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby The Original Special One » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:31 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:Just been arguing about this in the pub. If you're 35 yards off your line and the last line of defence, ball-to-hand is no kind of defence.... right? Surely a free kick and a straight red.... right?

If I'm wrong, someone please explain why. This is probably where you come in, B_RF.

Incidentally, they showed a clip of it after the game on sky sports as part of a montage and claimed "loads of talking points after the break." Did they bring it up? No. Nor did they bring it up at half time.

It wasn't even ball to hand: he clearly adjusted his hand to meet the rebound off his body.
It SHOULD have been a straight red: most Liverpool fans are already admitting it, even if Souness wouldn't even mention it
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby brite blu sky » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:37 pm

Hello.. just came on to say goodnight.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby PeterParker » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:39 pm

I don't think even a normal ref would had give him the red card, altough he could. Reina was the last man, but he would consider that he didn't want to touch the ball.
I saw last year Buffon doing the same thing and he has sent off.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Longball » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:17 pm

didnt think it was a handball to be fair
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:19 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Reina was very very lucky.If a defender had done that in the box it should have been a penalty.

Did Atkinson see it and bottle it? We will never know


Atkinson saw it, he was close to the play. It was handball , no doubt about it. As for getting the foot to the ball, so what ? He had his arm out to stop the ball and/ or player getting past him.


Don't understand why peol can't see that. He had his arm there in case the ball went there. It did, but it hit his foot first. It's still deliberate.


oh fuck me, beefy reckons the game was fixed (rather than just a poor homer referee - like that's a first) and now ted reckons reina was thinking through after his first successful tackle. i ask again - where should someone's arms be in a slide tackle - other than EXACTLY where his were???

Wasn't it fixed? Do you honestly still believe that these people don't get together to make sure the Premier League stays top of the shop?

I agree though, yoy cannot tell from watching the game ;-)
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby bigblue » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:21 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:oh fuck me, beefy reckons the game was fixed (rather than just a poor homer referee - like that's a first) and now ted reckons reina was thinking through after his first successful tackle. i ask again - where should someone's arms be in a slide tackle - other than EXACTLY where his were???


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Reina spread his whole body, and it hit his hand. Doesn't matter if it hit his foot first at all. If I come rushing at you with my arms spread out and the ball hits my foot then hand, its hand ball every time. Don't know why you're defending the decision so much when it's blatantly wrong. And since you seem too lazy to look at the play again, just look at the pictures above.
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Re: The Reina 'handball'

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:26 pm

Longball wrote:didnt think it was a handball to be fair


Why does that not surprise me?

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