Socrates wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Seanyod wrote:U do realise the MEN is a red paper now right? Every one of them is a red other than when they drag Paul hince out every now and then. Stuart brenan is a red (the city reporter for them) . Chris Bailey (ex city reporter) and all the other blues have come to work for city, on the website etc. So now it's completely run by reds. If u remember last season after the fa cup semi we played Blackburn away. After winning the headline in the MEN was about some city fans singing "who put the ball in the Munich net" not about us getting a top win and going for 4th. After that we played west ham at home. As iv said on here before , I'm in 111. Literally about 15 people were singing the same thing. We beat west ham. Next day the headline was 'Defiant" city fans still sing Munich . Not about us winning and going top for even 3rd place. So I rang the MEN to put in a complaint . They put me straight through to Peter Spencer . The boss and red also. I said wanna make a complaint about him and Stuart brenan . He started going mad down the phone saying does he question me at my job. I reminded him that his job is a public job and has a responsibility , and if he wants to shout at me again. I live 10 mins from city centre so I'll gladly drive down and we will see what happens if he shouts again. At that point he stopped shouting. I asked him why he keeps going with the stories about a couple of fans when as a local paper we rely on them to get behind us as the nationals hate us cos London based . Plus were in a final and going for the top four. He started saying how it's disgraceful people died etc . I said I agree with that and personally I don't sing it but why not report uniteds chants at Liverpool , 96 was not enough, etc. He didn't have an answer for that. Went onto say mike summerbee Colin bell are all right behind him. And that sheikh mansour is considering leaving city because of it! At that point I couldn't help but laugh. I said, "ok, I actually have nicky summerbees phone number so will I call him and see if that's true", again he started to change the subject and be a lot nicer. We actually finished the conversation ok as I think he realised I had his number. I said, if u got a problem with it , call me. Bring a few police in 111. They will throw 1 or 2 out and it will stop. Easy....... I seen some stuff on here about conspiracy etc. Obviously it ain't some massive thing where everyone is against us. But there is without doubt pockets of trouble causers . We all have to be cleaver and fish them out. I personally started by telling every blue I meet. Do not buy the evening news. At least until we have a city man reporting on city. Not much to ask is it.....
Excellent read mate....we have been saying for years that there are people out there continually slagging us off and will focus on any negativity and magnify it 1000 times...conspiracy theory is valid as there are various "rags" like the above mentioned who have to the power to send out reports to jo public.
Congrats on confronting him..... personally I would have been be too tempted to actually go down there and lamp him one but good on you for having the patience to do it verbally.
Thanks for pointing out it was a good read, I'd skipped it due to the lack of paragraphs!
Guess these things go in cycles, when I was in the Manchesteronline office some 7/8 years ago it was packed with blues desperate to be able to write good stuff about City. Those people have doubtless moved on and their replacements are rags. As we become more and more successful we will hopefully see the balance change again! Well done for standing up to them though Seany more of us should take the time to do the same and remind them who their readers are!
I wrote a comment/asked a question, on the Muen online site one time to ask why the Muen were so clearly biased to United. Why posting a reasonable comment on the United side would not be accepted ? Also, why do they have a 'like' button, but not a 'dislike' button, which clearly would be a reasonable thing to have. I mean, twenty united jerks 'liking' a snide comment from a red on a City article does not make it a good comment, or necessarily mean the poster is correct. At least those disliking comment ( moronic , moreoften from Reds), would be seen against those who like the comment.
Newspaper sites , the BBC sites are not objective.
This forum is the most objective place I have seen for debate. Not everone agrees with every topic, the mixture of people who like a topic differs with each topic. sometimes I agree , sometimes I don't .
However, I don't see any censorship here, where as I can't help but feel everything is censored at the Muen site. ( sure swearing etc should be removed).
As a mancunian newspaper, the Muen has lost it all, it's editorial independence. It is a waste of space and time.
A shame actually, because Mancunians all around the world look to something , some medium like the local newspaper to
touch base with home . This clearly is no longer the case.