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Re: Mourinho

Postby blues2win » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:51 pm

Someone on Sunday Supplement was speculating he might go to Spurs once 'arry got the England job! Have they been paying attention! If we don't get the League this season I wouldn't be amazed if Mourinho came here if only to stop him going to Old Trafford. Personally I think a rapprochement with Abramovic is possible and if I was placing a fiver it would be there. There again it's not impossible that bacon face will decide to pack it in if Mourinho is available.

Bottom line if Mourinho really is coming back to the Premiership there'll be a few Managers fingering their necks. Like it or not Mancini will be one of them. Has he got a contract extension yet? That would be a clear statement by the Club.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby 1950 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:51 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Ungh..... managers of table topping teams under pressure. Yeah, whatever.

Fixed! Couldn't make it up...
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:54 pm

blues2win wrote:Someone on Sunday Supplement was speculating he might go to Spurs once 'arry goes to jail!


Fixed.

Not a bad shout.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby PeterParker » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:10 pm

This article has some backup in the italian press. They are convinced that Bob will be the next manager of Italy and that will bring Mourinho in.
Like all of you, i am glad and happy of what Bobby had done here and he deserves so much credit, but on the other hand how many of us can say no to Mourinho? Since the sheik took over us, four years ago, he was the main target for our bench and i think he still is, thinking that Bob will not stay here forever. And tbf, i think Mourinho can take us to a whole new level.
At this moment, Bob is the first name on the list, but i think the board will reconsider his position, if we lose the league. (hope not).

Imho this is a win-win situation for us. We stick with Bob, great manager this season or bring Mourinho.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby RodneyRodney » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:42 pm

I'm fairly certain Mancini HAS been offered(dunno about signed) a new contract extension , sometime in tha last six months . They've certainly been talking about it.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:45 am

If it was my choice Jose would be the only manager I would sack Bobby for.How people can say they would not want a guy who has assembled a team that has been beating the best team in the world(ever,in somes opinions)for over half a season more than likely over the year is a bit puzzling.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Chinners » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:48 am

I used to like Maureen but his apointment would just mean having to fork out another half a billion for a new team ... I can't be arsed with that again
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Re: Mourinho

Postby CityGer » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:57 am

Mourinho is the best in the business in terms of guaranteed success. I've no doubt about that.

We don't need him, though, and I don't want him. Bobby will hopefully be here for a very long time. I doubt Mourinho will end his career having been anywhere for a long time.

Scousers will be mad if they don't go for him. Levy's purse strings are too tight, Spurs won't go for him.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Socrates » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:57 am

Rag_hater wrote:If it was my choice Jose would be the only manager I would sack Bobby for.How people can say they would not want a guy who has assembled a team that has been beating the best team in the world(ever,in somes opinions)for over half a season more than likely over the year is a bit puzzling.


I don't want him because I'm NOT a half witted, short-termist pillock!
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:17 pm

Socrates wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:If it was my choice Jose would be the only manager I would sack Bobby for.How people can say they would not want a guy who has assembled a team that has been beating the best team in the world(ever,in somes opinions)for over half a season more than likely over the year is a bit puzzling.


I don't want him because I'm NOT a half witted, short-termist pillock!


Compared to you,most of us are,so he would fit the bill perfectly.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby sheblue » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:56 pm

i would not like to see him either, let him stay in madrid, although he will fall out with them soon enough.

but i think that there are some concerns about roberto, and i think that some people at the club have secret concerns too. i think he has done a great job so far, but there are a few things that need to be highlighted.
He seems to be quick to 'burn his bridges' with some players, Ade, bellamy, tevez, etc etc, ok they might not be his signings but is the "man management" what it should be?
The cl performances were quite poor and the team selections for some those games questionable.
And his card waving stuff is not good. He seems to be showing the signs of pressure a lot lately.
Stubbornness, his continual policy of sticking with savic even though everybody in the world knew he was not ready for such responsibility, that was just pure stubbornness. Only finally did he relent when it was too late.
It is very obvious that he has been 'placing all his eggs in the pl basket' this is a very risky policy.
Don't get me wrong i think he is a very good manager and i do hope he does well. But below the surface there are doubts. Hopefully in time the concerns can be allayed.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby john68 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:12 pm

Can I just pick up on this issue of Mancini's poor man management. It is utter nonsense to even think that Bob has a bigger problem in this department than anyone else.

It is an issue that was thrown at him by the media in the aftermath of the Hughes sacking debacleand for some reason we now treat itas a truth. The names of Ade, Bellers, Bridge,Tevez, Ned andothers havebeen used as weapons to batter Mancini with and the assumption (now treated as truth) is that Mancini mishandled or mistreated those players. Kia Joorabchian draggedthe same stuff out in his recent Talkshite interview.

Any new manager will choose his own squad, he will pick the playing policy and the direction he wants the team to move in and some players will be discarded. That happens at EVERY club, by EVERY new manager, yet it seems it is only at City under Mancini where it is singled out as a problem.

Can anyone identify any manager at any time in any club where on arrival, he made no personnel changes when he had the resources to do so?
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Socrates » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:15 pm

john68 wrote:Can I just pick up on this issue of Mancini's poor man management. It is utter nonsense to even think that Bob has a bigger problem in this department than anyone else.

It is an issue that was thrown at him by the media in the aftermath of the Hughes sacking debacleand for some reason we now treat itas a truth. The names of Ade, Bellers, Bridge,Tevez, Ned andothers havebeen used as weapons to batter Mancini with and the assumption (now treated as truth) is that Mancini mishandled or mistreated those players. Kia Joorabchian draggedthe same stuff out in his recent Talkshite interview.

Any new manager will choose his own squad, he will pick the playing policy and the direction he wants the team to move in and some players will be discarded. That happens at EVERY club, by EVERY new manager, yet it seems it is only at City under Mancini where it is singled out as a problem.

Can anyone identify any manager at any time in any club where on arrival, he made no personnel changes when he had the resources to do so?


Kia even included Shay Given FFS. Is Mancini not even allowed to select his first choice keeper? They will be dragging up Jo next :)
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Re: Mourinho

Postby john68 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:22 pm

Chers Jon, I had meant to add that little nugget.

I was just trying to emphasise the point that it is a media strategy to use tenuous evidence, often complete nonsense, to make assumptions. Having stated and reported those assumptions often enough, they become treated as and publically accepted as truth.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby glossopblue » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:22 pm

Keep Bobby please. He'll win us the title, no danger.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:19 pm

The general consensus in the media is that Bob will be sacked if we don't win the league. That's not the way Sheikh Mansour was talking when asked a while back. He seemed to understand that things take time & be happy to progress each season.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby bluej » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:11 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:[highlight]The general consensus in the media is that Bob will be sacked if we don't win the league.[/highlight] That's not the way Sheikh Mansour was talking when asked a while back. He seemed to understand that things take time & be happy to progress each season.


It only seems to have been like that since the talk of Mourinho has arisen, lazy journalism IMO. Like you say, it doesn't fit with anything that Khaldoon/Mansour have said.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Blue Oli » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:36 pm

bluej wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:[highlight]The general consensus in the media is that Bob will be sacked if we don't win the league.[/highlight] That's not the way Sheikh Mansour was talking when asked a while back. He seemed to understand that things take time & be happy to progress each season.


It only seems to have been like that since the talk of Mourinho has arisen, lazy journalism IMO. Like you say, it doesn't fit with anything that Khaldoon/Mansour have said.



It's utter chinners B's with no foundation in anything coming from the club - and in fact in polar opposite to the comments of our owners and representatives - but they have to write something don't they
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Re: Mourinho

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:22 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:The general consensus in the media is that Bob will be sacked if we don't win the league. That's not the way Sheikh Mansour was talking when asked a while back. He seemed to understand that things take time & be happy to progress each season.


Media speculation. However, if we went say 9 points clear over the next 6 weeks and then didn't win it, you'd have to question Bob. So I think he's safe but there could be a deal breaker out there.

That said, Mourinho has been a bit embarrassing at Madrid and I'm not sure he's what the owner would want representing City and Abu Dhabi. Yes, he's the best available, but he's lost the fun wit he had when he was here. Maybe it's just the pressure of Madrid, but he's gone a bit mad.
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Re: Mourinho

Postby shawzy » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:30 pm

2 yrs ago when Hughes was in charge i'd have said yes to Jose but Bob's doin a good job and i have every faith in him to deliver more success in the near future.
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