Will this season have been a success..

[paddyblue]

a failure,we failed to reach the later stages of ecl,europa,carling,and fa cups and now we are throwing away the league.
last month the excuse was we are playing every three days but we have got worse since we went out of the cups.
when a club spends the amount of money we have i think we are entitled to expect more

[Blue Since 76]

Any kind of Sven type collapse though & the opposite will be the case. We won't improve next season if we collapse now.

Thing is, I think we're having a Sven type collapse. We've struggled since Xmas as teams have worked out our weaknesses. The difference has been the standard of players we have meaning we were even better before Xmas and have been able to grind out results like yesterday. Sven had the likes of Bianchi to call on. The worrying thing though is a manager, schooled by Sven, who appears to have no idea what to do when the wheels start to fall off.

As with Sven, if the season was in reverse we'd be delighted and looking forward to next season. But this trend is more worrying. Our form since Xmas is about 3rd in the table, so not a disaster, but not where we want to be.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

I guess technically it will be a failure if this team doesn't win anything this season... and i'm sure no one will be more disappointed than them, but what people forget is that this is, in the main, a relatively young and inexperienced team, and I think the one we thing we have lacked in the last few months is the reassurance of an experienced head in the playing staff. Someone who has been there and done it, when it comes to winning the premiership.
I think whatever happens, this season will be invaluable to this team, and will do nothing but make them stronger. The most important thing is that we keep the team together - management, players, everything and add to the areas where we've shown weakness.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

This reminds me of last seasons "cup or top 4" debate.

Give me 3rd and the FA cup over 2nd and nothing every single time.

Watching us throw out weakened teams in cl, Europa, FA and league cups made me rage. Knowing its to no avail as we didn't win the league is heartbreaking.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

This reminds me of last seasons "cup or top 4" debate.

Give me 3rd and the FA cup over 2nd and nothing every single time.

Watching us throw out weakened teams in cl, Europa, FA and league cups made me rage. Knowing its to no avail as we didn't win the league is heartbreaking.

Don't give up so easily you soft arse! Where's your fight?! Yeah, its no longer in our hands, but its never over until its over... BELIEVE!!

[carl_feedthegoat]

If we finish 2nd then it's an improvement on last season. Whilst achieving that position we've played some of the best football anyone here has seen City play in our lifetime. We've turned over some of our real bogey sides (including a double over Spurs) and we humilated the filth at the Swamp whilst giving baconface his biggest ever defeat.

I don't know about anyone else but I've enjoyed this season better than any other I can remember. Anyone who thinks that we'll just walk it to the title whilst wiping each and every other team aside needs to get a grip and remember that this is City. You can't have all these good times without some of the obligatory shite that goes with being a City fan, no matter how big and rich we've become.

Regardless of what happens here on in, I will see this season as a success. If we don't win anything, so what? It's nothing new. It's not like I'm not used to it. Aside from last season we've gone decades without winning anything, now we're expected to win something every season?

We should still be improving and still growing and still building. Each season should be better than the last and if it is, then that should be seen as a successful season. If we keep heading in the right direction, the trophies will come.

Yes we are expected to win something and getting knocked out of the cups the way we did domestically and in Europe was a fuckign shambles...... Mancini s fault and he has said as much in many matches...the thing is , he doesn't learn from it.

Worrying imo.

[ant london]

IMO the season when the dust has settled will have been a success, but a qualified one.

We should have run away with the title in all honesty. We have only ourselves to blame and it will be galling to see them lift the trophy this season if, as seems likely, that is what happens.

[Ted Hughes]

Any kind of Sven type collapse though & the opposite will be the case. We won't improve next season if we collapse now.

Thing is, I think we're having a Sven type collapse. We've struggled since Xmas as teams have worked out our weaknesses. The difference has been the standard of players we have meaning we were even better before Xmas and have been able to grind out results like yesterday. Sven had the likes of Bianchi to call on. The worrying thing though is a manager, schooled by Sven, who appears to have no idea what to do when the wheels start to fall off.

As with Sven, if the season was in reverse we'd be delighted and looking forward to next season. But this trend is more worrying. Our form since Xmas is about 3rd in the table, so not a disaster, but not where we want to be.

I don't agree that we're having a Sven type collapse, not so far anyway.

I think we've suffered from several things which are partly Bob's fault, partly bad luck, & partly down to teams playing harder against us than they have against anyone else. On the third point, I recon if you went around the fans of lower half teams & asked them which game they thought their team was most 'up' for or performed best in over the course of the season, a lot would say v City.

I've heard Everton & QPR fans say that (although they have had a few big results recently), I recon Sunderland fans would cite both games, WBA fans would put our game near the top, Swindon, Stoke even Chelsea.

This is new to us as a club. We've always been a big scalp, but this season we've been the biggest, bigger than rags. At the same time, we've lost Silva & had injuries & suspensions to our key defenders.

I will say again, if the rags had played the Sunderland team we played, they wouldn't be top of the league. It's that simple. Not only that, their season would have been destroyed facing that team right after we dicked them 6-1. They were shitting their pants at the time Sunderland came to OT. They were let off the hook by Steve Bruce when just about any other team would have stomped all over them. If Blackburn or Wigan (or Sunderland) get stuck into them now, they will struggle.

Unfortunately, we have to get past Arsenal, another team who produced one of their best performances v us & were in disarray (twice) when the rags played them.

We have not been lucky at all this season & for all the talk of teams being in 'transitional' phases, it's those bastards, not us, who have benefitted from it. We have faced just about everybody at full strength on the top of their game. They haven't.

Our performances so far this season would have put us in a title challenge in any Premier League year against any opposition. Theirs wouldn't.

For that reason, I think we're having a successful season & as I've said before, the key now is not to blow it, whether we come 1st or second. If we go to shit, it will stick with us & we'll be lucky to challenge next season.

Mancini has to keep up our standards, win or lose. If we have to finish second but we do it in style at the death, imo this will have been a big season in our development.

[saulman]

If we finish 2nd then it's an improvement on last season. Whilst achieving that position we've played some of the best football anyone here has seen City play in our lifetime. We've turned over some of our real bogey sides (including a double over Spurs) and we humilated the filth at the Swamp whilst giving baconface his biggest ever defeat.

I don't know about anyone else but I've enjoyed this season better than any other I can remember. Anyone who thinks that we'll just walk it to the title whilst wiping each and every other team aside needs to get a grip and remember that this is City. You can't have all these good times without some of the obligatory shite that goes with being a City fan, no matter how big and rich we've become.

Regardless of what happens here on in, I will see this season as a success. If we don't win anything, so what? It's nothing new. It's not like I'm not used to it. Aside from last season we've gone decades without winning anything, now we're expected to win something every season?

We should still be improving and still growing and still building. Each season should be better than the last and if it is, then that should be seen as a successful season. If we keep heading in the right direction, the trophies will come.

Yes we are expected to win something and getting knocked out of the cups the way we did domestically and in Europe was a fuckign shambles...... Mancini s fault and he has said as much in many matches...the thing is , he doesn't learn from it.

Worrying imo.

I grant you that the Liverpool defeat in the League cup shouldn't have happened. The FA Cup was out of our hands with Kompany being sent off (....the start of the slide for the season, IMO). The Chumps League was pretty much doomed from the start, with the Tevez issue and the late Napoli goal but we're in it next season so hopefully, we'll have a better run.

The thing is, when we start talking about winning trophies like it's our god given right, we start sounding like rags or scousers. Yeah, we should be challenging and yeah, we should be winning some stuff but we have to accept that some seasons we won't win anything. So long as we continue to improve, and we have, then people should just chill out and if we've fucked it this season we should start looking forward to the next.

[Blue Since 76]

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Mancini has to keep up our standards, win or lose. If we have to finish second but we do it in style at the death, imo this will have been a big season in our development.

I agree with that. We've already got as many points as last season, we've perhaps been unlucky in how well the rags have done. However, from Mancini's body language and comments over the last few weeks, together with our general level of performance, I think the panic has set in and we are about to see a collapse. I really hope not, but I see a pretty stress free run in for the rags as we continue to drop points.

IF we go for it for the rest of the season, he'd deserve another chance either way, although if we win every game I think we'd win it anyway.

[mr_nool]

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Mancini has to keep up our standards, win or lose. If we have to finish second but we do it in style at the death, imo this will have been a big season in our development.

I agree with that. We've already got as many points as last season, we've perhaps been unlucky in how well the rags have done. However, from Mancini's body language and comments over the last few weeks, together with our general level of performance, I think the panic has set in and we are about to see a collapse. I really hope not, but I see a pretty stress free run in for the rags as we continue to drop points.

IF we go for it for the rest of the season, he'd deserve another chance either way, although if we win every game I think we'd win it anyway.

I think that if we fall 8 points behind the pressure will be off and we will start performing again and finishing the season on a high note. I'm not sure if that's an entirely positive thing, though, since it's pointing to our squad an manager buckling under pressure.

[stevefromdonny]

It will be a shocking failure. And there is one man to blame for it.

im not taking the blame for anyone

[Lev Bronstein]

If the season ends as it is now. it won't be a success, but cor blimey guvner, surely the gap to the chasing pack must be something to be pleased with. There's got to be some place between calling our situation absolute failure and absolute success.

[gillie]

Whatever ws said in private after the scouse game before last years semi-final needs to be said again imo.Because after that game we seemed like a different animal. More of the same guys.

[Swales4ever]

I guess technically it will be a failure if this team doesn't win anything this season... and i'm sure no one will be more disappointed than them, but what people forget is that this is, in the main, a relatively young and inexperienced team, and I think the one we thing we have lacked in the last few months is the reassurance of an experienced head in the playing staff. Someone who has been there and done it, when it comes to winning the premiership.
I think whatever happens, this season will be invaluable to this team, and will do nothing but make them stronger. The most important thing is that we keep the team together - management, players, everything and add to the areas where we've shown weakness.

Come on don't be so logical!!!
Some folks might get hurt and feel their constant need to perpetuate the moaning for decades in serious danger.

[ronk]

7 matches to go, we're on the same number of points as we achieved in all of last season. There have been a lot of successes, but some failures too. We faded at key parts of the season and that was partly because our depth isn't as good as reported and we have been missing a lot of guys.

It's not over either. It doesn't take a lot to reel them in.

[Swales4ever]

7 matches to go, we're on the same number of points as we achieved in all of last season. There have been a lot of successes, but some failures too. We faded at key parts of the season and that was partly because our depth isn't as good as reported and we have been missing a lot of guys.

It's not over either. It doesn't take a lot to reel them in.

Happy clapper!?!?

[john68]

Piccs,
that was probably the worst post of yours I have ever read.
Not because I vehemently disagree Mate, you are well entitled to you opinion but with no rationalisation to your headline, no effort to create debate and no points put forward for discussion, it was about the same quality as the Sun,the Sport or the dumbed down sensationalist Talkshite.

Terrible Mate.

[Tokyo Blue]

To me football is a kind of entertainment. Watching City play top quality football is entertaining.

I don't see many others round here getting much joy out of it. I sometimes wonder why that is. Not often though.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

To me football is a kind of entertainment. Watching City play top quality football is entertaining.

I don't see many others round here getting much joy out of it. I sometimes wonder why that is. Not often though.

I think it's safe to say we all get that natch day buzz, but discussion tends to hot up after games, so how our results are going will directly influence how happy we seem.