Balotelli and Dzeko

[NorthernHope]

There's a lot of unfair criticism about Dzeko in my opinion. He's already scored 17 goals this season from 40 starts and would have been top scorer if he'd played every game. Instead he gets dumped for Balotelli, has to come in when the idiot has been banned or whatever and gets slated because he's understandably rusty. Basically Mancini had more faith in Balotelli and look where that's got us...

I was about to say something similar, but you've coevered it with this.
Unfortunately I was right when I said two months ago that if we stick to Balotelli, we wont win the championship.

Had Dzeko played more instead of this idiot, with Aguero in 1st squad, Im positive that we would be in the title race now..

[gillie]

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Mancini press conf: says he will 'probably' try to sell Balotelli in summer

Just seen that and some of his other comments, that should cut his price tag in half. Nice one Mancini....

Balotelli must go regardess of whose in charge.

The next question is should we change 5 or 6 players again and retain Mancini or should we jettison Mancini and hope someone else can get the best out of Dzeko, Nasri, Milner, Johnson etc and just add 1 or 2?

What we need is a fuckin decent winger so we can get the best out of Dzeko.We cannot cross a football to save our fuckin lives FACT

Dzeko doesnt have the bollocks fella.

Our tactics and the way we play aren't set up for wingers so no doubt any top class ones would look ordinary in our team.

I dont disagree with you though

Thanks mate.But on the question of Dzeko's strength's if we had a decent winger i think he would have the bollocks to run into the positions to get on crosses but at the moment he knows those crosses will just never come and thats why he dose'nt make the runs.

[Grob]

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Mancini press conf: says he will 'probably' try to sell Balotelli in summer

Just seen that and some of his other comments, that should cut his price tag in half. Nice one Mancini....

Balotelli must go regardess of whose in charge.

The next question is should we change 5 or 6 players again and retain Mancini or should we jettison Mancini and hope someone else can get the best out of Dzeko, Nasri, Milner, Johnson etc and just add 1 or 2?

What we need is a fuckin decent winger so we can get the best out of Dzeko.We cannot cross a football to save our fuckin lives FACT

Dzeko doesnt have the bollocks fella.

Our tactics and the way we play aren't set up for wingers so no doubt any top class ones would look ordinary in our team.

I dont disagree with you though

Thanks mate.But on the question of Dzeko's strength's if we had a decent winger i think he would have the bollocks to run into the positions to get on crosses but at the moment he knows those crosses will just never come and thats why he dose'nt make the runs.

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

[NorthernHope]

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

But we're not winning the title now, not playing like that, are we?
And as far as I remember, our best performances were at the beginning of the season, when Dzeko played consistently.

[Stannaz1988]

Jose in Mancini out for me, he can take Balo with him, the club needs that experience of P.L and Jose brings that, he would bring in experienced players to put final touches to the squad and get rid of some of the shit that's getting paid thousands to do fuck all, Jose would bring dzeko to life, he is not Guna be confident wen he is being replaced by a no good idiot every week

[Grob]

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

But we're not winning the title now, not playing like that, are we?
And as far as I remember, our best performances were at the beginning of the season, when Dzeko played consistently.

True

So why isnt Mancini playing this way and playing Dzeko?

[NorthernHope]

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

But we're not winning the title now, not playing like that, are we?
And as far as I remember, our best performances were at the beginning of the season, when Dzeko played consistently.

True

So why isnt Mancini playing this way and playing Dzeko?

Who knows. I dont.
I really dont know what made him change the once winning team. We had more than 3 goals per game at that time.

[Crossie]

I agree with the OP, these 2 are not up to the job required. I can understand ditching 1 and allowing the other to develop, don't know which one. I think Balotelli will always be flawed, he is simply a dickhead, a loveable one, but there is no room for dickheads in a premier league starting 11.

Dzeko just might be worth hanging on to. He needs to clear his head, get someone in to feed him to his strengths, and drop the cunt attitude he has had since the Bayern game.

[Grob]

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

But we're not winning the title now, not playing like that, are we?
And as far as I remember, our best performances were at the beginning of the season, when Dzeko played consistently.

True

So why isnt Mancini playing this way and playing Dzeko?

Who knows. I dont.
I really dont know what made him change the once winning team. We had more than 3 goals per game at that time.

Well he initially dropped Dzeko for Balotelli (Mancini's blind faith in Mario running wild) after a couple of poor performances from Dzeko (Everton at home particulally was a poor one for Edin).

Paid off until Mario was sent off at Liverpool.

Then Dzeko came back into the team and put him half as much effort as he had done at the start of the season and he still continues to do so. Dzeko's played rather uninspired ever since.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

But we're not winning the title now, not playing like that, are we?
And as far as I remember, our best performances were at the beginning of the season, when Dzeko played consistently.

True

So why isnt Mancini playing this way and playing Dzeko?

Who knows. I dont.
I really dont know what made him change the once winning team. We had more than 3 goals per game at that time.

Well he initially dropped Dzeko for Balotelli (Mancini's blind faith in Mario running wild) after a couple of poor performances from Dzeko (Everton at home particulally was a poor one for Edin).

Paid off until Mario was sent off at Liverpool.

Then Dzeko came back into the team and put him half as much effort as he had done at the start of the season and he still continues to do so. Dzeko's played rather uninspired ever since.

But isnt Dzeko's effort,even when not as much as it should or could be,better than Mario's in any game?

We will never know but if Mario hadnt played any games at all this season, how many goals would Dzeko have scored?

[marvin]

Dzeko is the player I'd have to lead the City line with AGuero and Silva/Tevez in behind.

Mario would have been on my bench as an impact player. Not now though. Mancini and Balotelli are finished. Fools both of them

[Bianchi on Ice]

Ive got to agree with Gillie though Dzeko needs that service from both flanks... just look at his goals for wolfsburg. He knew the ball would be delivered so he made the appropriate movements. with us hes scratching around not quite knowing what to do. Hes not the only footballer who thrives on confidence and that is key with him. Id keep him. No point in signing another prototype centre forward because we dont deliver enough early ball from wide.

[Dendza]

daniel taylor ‏ @DTguardian Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Mancini press conf: says he will 'probably' try to sell Balotelli in summer

Just seen that and some of his other comments, that should cut his price tag in half. Nice one Mancini....

Balotelli must go regardess of whose in charge.

The next question is should we change 5 or 6 players again and retain Mancini or should we jettison Mancini and hope someone else can get the best out of Dzeko, Nasri, Milner, Johnson etc and just add 1 or 2?

What we need is a fuckin decent winger so we can get the best out of Dzeko.We cannot cross a football to save our fuckin lives FACT

Dzeko doesnt have the bollocks fella.

Our tactics and the way we play aren't set up for wingers so no doubt any top class ones would look ordinary in our team.

I dont disagree with you though

Thanks mate.But on the question of Dzeko's strength's if we had a decent winger i think he would have the bollocks to run into the positions to get on crosses but at the moment he knows those crosses will just never come and thats why he dose'nt make the runs.

very good point. Thats why people seem him as being lazy at times, he just loses the motivation to run when no one can;t cross the ball for shit

[Dendza]

There could be some semblence of truth there as in if the service to Edin was catered primarily for his needs, his efforts may increase.

To get the best out of him we would have to use him similar to how United used Van Nisterooy IMO as both are very very similar. Which is put balls in the box and only get him involved when the ball needs putting into the net.

The thing is, United didnt win titles playing like that and I dont think we would either.

But we're not winning the title now, not playing like that, are we?
And as far as I remember, our best performances were at the beginning of the season, when Dzeko played consistently.

True

So why isnt Mancini playing this way and playing Dzeko?

Because he's preparing Balotelli for the Euro 2012..:-)

[Im_Spartacus]

very good point. Thats why people seem him as being lazy at times, he just loses the motivation to run when no one can;t cross the ball for shit

How many wingers has drogba played with, i mean players who are actually wingers?

He does alright on the end of crosses, but its not from wingers per se, its from Forwards who play wide ar chelsea, and we have aguero and tevez who can play that role, with dzeko and ade who could play the point man

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Hargreaves would be a great piece of business I was told. People had a go at me for calling it a bad signing. Oh how wrong I was.

[Im_Spartacus]

Hargreaves would be a great piece of business I was told. People had a go at me for calling it a bad signing. Oh how wrong I was.

whats your point?

Bad signing = savic
Pointless signing = hargreaves

Surely you can see there is a difference between someone we spent a small fortune on who has cost us several games, and a player who won us a game, didnt cost a transfer fee and Was worth a go on the off chance he could get fit.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Hargreaves would be a great piece of business I was told. People had a go at me for calling it a bad signing. Oh how wrong I was.

whats your point?

Bad signing = savic
Pointless signing = hargreaves

Surely you can see there is a difference between someone we spent a small fortune on who has cost us several games, and a player who won us a game, didnt cost a transfer fee and Was worth a go on the off chance he could get fit.

He's never even been that good and had been injured for about 3 years. Defines the term waste of time.

[Grob]

But isnt Dzeko's effort,even when not as much as it should or could be,better than Mario's in any game?

We will never know but if Mario hadnt played any games at all this season, how many goals would Dzeko have scored?

They can both be as bad as each other, see Stoke away.

Dzeko strikes me as a player who knows the team isnt built to play to his strengths and gives up the ghost too easily when things are not going his way. He also strikes me as soft. For a man of 6ft 4 to be overpowered by defender so easily so regulally is flustrating to watch as a fan.

In this team, i doubt Dzeko would have produced much more than Mario for the reason given above.

Maybe the answer is to move on without the pair of them?

[Grob]

Dzeko is the player I'd have to lead the City line with AGuero and Silva/Tevez in behind.

Mario would have been on my bench as an impact player. Not now though. Mancini and Balotelli are finished. Fools both of them

If you can name me 3 matches in the last 2 years where Mario came off the bench and had an impact resulting in us winning a match your a better man than I am.

Ive got one, Timisoura away, his debut.