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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby clawbaggio » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:38 pm

Shreks off the ball assault on McCarthy last year was worse than Ivanovics, so presumably no action will be taken on that one?
The Derry decision is wrong on so many counts. I was going to ask do you think it would have been rescinded if it had been Ferdinand? What am I thinking? It wouldn't have been a pen or red card in the first place if it was a Rag
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby CityGer » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:44 pm

They've not got a fucking clue.

Also, I'm sick to death of seeing the FA's referee mouthpiece Dermot Gallacher on SSN after every weekend telling me that the refs and the FA are right. He was trying to justify the initial Derry decision and the review. Who the fuck does he think he's talking to? We're not thick, Dermot!
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby Biamp » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:09 pm

What a joke!!
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:44 pm

Remarkable.

Truly mind blowing with the derry decision. This sort of shit makes me not want to watch football any more.
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby dario2739 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:36 am

Why is everyone so surprised at this decision? If they had rescinded his red card it would be admitting that it wasn't a foul and so a penalty was wrongly given and baconface won't allow that!
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:48 am

dario2739 wrote:Why is everyone so surprised at this decision? If they had rescinded his red card it would be admitting that it wasn't a foul and so a penalty was wrongly given and baconface won't allow that!


Baconface said it was never a penalty
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby pepsi_dave » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:13 am

But surely it wasn't a foul either which way, the offside came first, and therefore the incident happened out of play so to speak. What happens when a player scores an offside goal? The goal is ruled out.... Same thing should apply here... Offside, therefore any foul that happens or penalty shout is waved away because play should bd brought back to the first offence which is the offside?! Fucking joke of a decision if you ask me!
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:32 am

What I find hard to accept about this situation is the lack of explanation from anyone connected to the FA/Referee's Association. I would like to know why this red card has been allowed to stand. It was not a foul and it should have been offside. Either of those is enough to have it overturned. Together it is overwhelming.

It is very easy to conclude from this that certain interested parties can't maintain their level of control over matches if there is any kind of transparency.
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby mr_nool » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:15 am

The offside argument is moot and should not even be taken into consideration (there are plenty of offside goals scored in the league, and none of them gets disallowed after the game is finished).

What's left of the argument is whether a red card can/should be rescinded or not, i.e. was it a foul and red card offense. And to get the ref to budge on this is not easy, as we saw in the Kompany case.
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:57 am

mr_nool wrote:The offside argument is moot and should not even be taken into consideration (there are plenty of offside goals scored in the league, and none of them gets disallowed after the game is finished).

What's left of the argument is whether a red card can/should be rescinded or not, i.e. was it a foul and red card offense. And to get the ref to budge on this is not easy, as we saw in the Kompany case.


Seriously though, why is the referee not overruled?

There has to be a problem with a system which allows potentially leg breaking tackles, but bans someone (even after an independent review), for a foul that was entirely in the referees mind.

Perhaps the issue is that if it wasnt a penalty, does that by definition create an accusation that young is a cheat, which is nigh on impossible to prove?
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby mr_nool » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:01 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
mr_nool wrote:The offside argument is moot and should not even be taken into consideration (there are plenty of offside goals scored in the league, and none of them gets disallowed after the game is finished).

What's left of the argument is whether a red card can/should be rescinded or not, i.e. was it a foul and red card offense. And to get the ref to budge on this is not easy, as we saw in the Kompany case.


Seriously though, why is the referee not overruled?

There has to be a problem with a system which allows potentially leg breaking tackles, but bans someone (even after an independent review), for a foul that was entirely in the referees mind.

Perhaps the issue is that if it wasnt a penalty, does that by definition create an accusation that young is a cheat, which is nigh on impossible to prove?


I think it was a ridiculous call as well, and I would gladly see the red card rescinded. I was mainly trying to point out that the missed offside call has nothing to do with it.
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:05 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
dario2739 wrote:Why is everyone so surprised at this decision? If they had rescinded his red card it would be admitting that it wasn't a foul and so a penalty was wrongly given and baconface won't allow that!


Baconface said it was never a penalty

He didn't mate and that wound me up even more. He quickly said that it was offside, but then said Derry lightly tugged his shirt so the ref was left with no option but to send him off.

Just another case of Taggart supporting his referee. They're all vying for Walton's job I reckon.

When it comes down to it, is anybody surprised? The old 'We don't like to take retrospective action as the Ref seen it' is rolled out again.
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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby ashton287 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:16 am

SSN this morning doing the paper thing.

One headline, farce at FA as Balotelli escapes but Derry is banned - no mention of Young's dive being the cause of derry's ban.

A still from the times shows balo's challenge and 2 stills of ivanovic's BUT no still of young diving.

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Re: FA reject derry appeal.

Postby avoidconfusion » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:40 am

bigblue wrote:
Fesan wrote:Balo not charged either... how is this shit possible!


Quite happy about that! May have just saved his Man City career


I am not. He deserved to be punished for that, the dickhead. I am sick of his "tackling" ... he always does it.
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