Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Goataldo » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:14 pm

bluebananamilksheikh wrote:Well if it is RVP he is after, is value won't have shot up after his performances in the Euros!!!!!


Very true.

Possibly down to shit tactics though. He missed a few chances fair enough, but he is a class act.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Lee_R » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:58 am

Reading these posts makes me think how sad it is that Tevez fucked up. Its such a sad affair.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby CitizenYank » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:30 am

Van Persie if you go by what the papers say. I think its still up in the air.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:56 am

CitizenYank wrote:Van Persie if you go by what the papers say. I think its still up in the air.


It wouldnt surprise me if those rumours are coming directly from rvp's agent.

Someone is trying to bang up his value, and i seriously doubt it is city. They have clearly stated the policy similar to united, that they will not spend big money on a player with no resale value, in light of our FFP situation it would be madness, so i dont believe for one minute we are interested.

However the likes of Juve and other potential suitors are seeing the asking price hold firm in the face of this perceived "interest" from the richest club in the world.

I dont rate him, I dont want him, and he is no better than the finisher we already have
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:29 am

I honestly don't think Mancini is looking to get rid of Dzeko. I really don't. Balotelli....maybe... but rightly or wrongly he seems very convinced that he will come through eventually.

I think our number one target was Hazard. I'm not expecting huge squad turnover or lot of players coming in.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby kinkylola » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:10 am

i'm expecting a lot of waste to be washed clean ... rsc, bridge, etc ... I think we are open to offers for dzeko/tevez and if one or both gets sold then we will look to replace.

Is there anyone who thinks that benzema or cavani would not be a huge upgrade on dzeko? stylistically and ability wise. Is there really a better all around complete striker than benzema right now? He's a very good player, similar type to ade but staying more central. Speaking of Ade ... is it possible that he will come back into the picture? Haven't heard much on that front and I think that spurs will fall flat because much of their moves were based on having harry at the helm to convince players to come.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:21 am

kinkylola wrote:i'm expecting a lot of waste to be washed clean ... rsc, bridge, etc ... I think we are open to offers for dzeko/tevez and if one or both gets sold then we will look to replace.

Is there anyone who thinks that benzema or cavani would not be a huge upgrade on dzeko? stylistically and ability wise. Is there really a better all around complete striker than benzema right now? He's a very good player, similar type to ade but staying more central. Speaking of Ade ... is it possible that he will come back into the picture? Haven't heard much on that front and I think that spurs will fall flat because much of their moves were based on having harry at the helm to convince players to come.


Benzema would be massive uograde. Cavani wouldn't.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:30 am

Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.

We have just won the league with 3 of our current 4 strikers having average seasons though (one playing golf). They are now Premier League Champions. Surely that will give them increased confidence for the next season ? We really shouldn't be discarding these blokes when they've won the title, we should be looking at more ways to feed them, then look at it next season.

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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:34 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Benzema would be massive uograde. Cavani wouldn't.

hmmmm - I'm somewhere in the middle I think with Falcao
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:05 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Benzema would be massive uograde. Cavani wouldn't.

hmmmm - I'm somewhere in the middle I think with Falcao


Falcao plus Bale would be potentially excellent but Falcao with our current lack of width would be a mistake imo.

Any new striker is a risk though. Van Persie is proven of course but he's also injury prone. Anyone else is having to learn the Prem from scratch & it's different to anything they've seen before. We have 4 strikers who have experienced it & won the league.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby RodneyRodney » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:10 am

Goataldo wrote:I spoke to David Platt in a car park in Alderley Edge a couple of weeks back.
Apologies for not mentioning this sooner. Bad form.

I thought of loads of great questions to ask him once he'd got off. Was a little weird actually. As he walked past and I said; "Eh up Dave, any hints on who we're after in the close season?" or something equally banale and uninspiring, and he just walked off. Then a couple of seconds later, came right up to the van and started having a chat.

He said RVP was a possibility, and actually mentioned a couple of the Bilbao lads. Their exact names currently escape me.

Muniain & Llorente ? Muniain (MAYBE) would be good. Played very well vs United . Might be inconsistent though
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby dazby » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:11 am

I really hope we keep what we've got.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:15 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.



LOL

I couldn't disagree more. I feel exact opposite. Benzema is readymade for Premier League. Cavani would struggle with pace of game in England. He has got pace but the he uses it the way they use pace in Serie A ie counterattack and shit. We aren't really counterattacking team.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:30 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.



LOL

I couldn't disagree more. I feel exact opposite. Benzema is readymade for Premier League. Cavani would struggle with pace of game in England. He has got pace but the he uses it the way they use pace in Serie A ie counterattack and shit. We aren't really counterattacking team.


I think we're supposed to be though, like at Norwich & OT. We lost it partly because Tevez went awol & partly because everyone was too terrified of us to come out of their own half. Cavani gets a lot of sneaky poachers goals though, like he did v us.

As I said though, now we are Champions, I would like to see how our present group of strikers respond with one or two extra creative options to feed them. Psychologically, it could have a big effect on Dzeko in particular.

Mario could have one last chance to grow up & if he blows it, stick him in the reserves work with 3 strikers til Christmas, bring someone in on loan & fuck him off at the end of the season. Another occasional scorer or two as part of our midfield should be enough, so long as they help feed the current bunch.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby feedthegreek » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:44 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.



LOL

I couldn't disagree more. I feel exact opposite. Benzema is readymade for Premier League. Cavani would struggle with pace of game in England. He has got pace but the he uses it the way they use pace in Serie A ie counterattack and shit. We aren't really counterattacking team.


I think we're supposed to be though, like at Norwich & OT. We lost it partly because Tevez went awol & partly because everyone was too terrified of us to come out of their own half. Cavani gets a lot of sneaky poachers goals though, like he did v us.

As I said though, now we are Champions, I would like to see how our present group of strikers respond with one or two extra creative options to feed them. Psychologically, it could have a big effect on Dzeko in particular.

Mario could have one last chance to grow up & if he blows it, stick him in the reserves work with 3 strikers til Christmas, bring someone in on loan & fuck him off at the end of the season. Another occasional scorer or two as part of our midfield should be enough, so long as they help feed the current bunch.
id keep all our strikers, like you said they are champions im sure dzecko can improve, he looked very determined when he came on in the last 2 games showed total commitment as well.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:45 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Benzema looks wrong for the Prem imo. Cavani is stronger, faster, better in the air works harder & is a better poacher. Benzema is better at shooting from distance & has a nicer touch but looks easy to stop if you concentrate. We have shown we can't stop Cavani.



LOL

I couldn't disagree more. I feel exact opposite. Benzema is readymade for Premier League. Cavani would struggle with pace of game in England. He has got pace but the he uses it the way they use pace in Serie A ie counterattack and shit. We aren't really counterattacking team.


I think we're supposed to be though, like at Norwich & OT. We lost it partly because Tevez went awol & partly because everyone was too terrified of us to come out of their own half. Cavani gets a lot of sneaky poachers goals though, like he did v us.

As I said though, now we are Champions, I would like to see how our present group of strikers respond with one or two extra creative options to feed them. Psychologically, it could have a big effect on Dzeko in particular.

Mario could have one last chance to grow up & if he blows it, stick him in the reserves work with 3 strikers til Christmas, bring someone in on loan & fuck him off at the end of the season. Another occasional scorer or two as part of our midfield should be enough, so long as they help feed the current bunch.


Yeah, I agree with your overall point of us not really needing a new striker as such.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby kinkylola » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:07 am

Think this gets brought up every time, but is it not worth having guidetti around? What if tevez goes on another golfing holiday, or mario goes off the boil? Or have we made our minds upvto loan him out to a prem team?
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 am

Goataldo wrote:I spoke to David Platt in a car park in Alderley Edge a couple of weeks back.
Apologies for not mentioning this sooner. Bad form.

I thought of loads of great questions to ask him once he'd got off. Was a little weird actually. As he walked past and I said; "Eh up Dave, any hints on who we're after in the close season?" or something equally banale and uninspiring, and he just walked off. Then a couple of seconds later, came right up to the van and started having a chat.

He said RVP was a possibility, and [highlight]actually mentioned a couple of the Bilbao lads[/highlight]. Their exact names currently escape me.


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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:24 am

kinkylola wrote:Think this gets brought up every time, but is it not worth having guidetti around? What if tevez goes on another golfing holiday, or mario goes off the boil? Or have we made our minds upvto loan him out to a prem team?


Depends on his attitude. If he really is going to sulk if he doesn't get regular games then there's no point. If he's willing to try & fight for a place then he's ideal.
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Re: Which Striker Does Bob Really Really want?

Postby littlebig » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:46 am

I think Bob's hands are tied on this issue to a degree. He can't buy unless and until we sell.

If he decides to take the risk with keeping Herman then that's that sorted. I reckon a decent offer for him though, would be considered.

The same would apply for Mario and Edin. I feel these two could potentially still prove valuable to MCFC. Does Bob? Or does he want A.N.other forward in so bad that he'll sacrifice one of these.

Guidetti to fit in (or not) only after above issues settled.

Re Van Ponsey I've got a bad feeling on this one (apart from blowing 30mil on 29 year old). I think he'd be brought in to get 25+ goals next season thereby 'guaranteeing' retaining the title. From that point of view it seems too good to be true...

My two cents would be to bring in Benzema or Higuain (possibly as a swap for CT or ED) but I'd be more than content to stick with what we've got.
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