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Re: Ditching Players

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:15 am

Ted, as a long standing supporter, how would you feel about us competing in a Euro breakaway league against the likes Barca, Milan and the other G14 clubs rather than playing against our traditional foes?
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Re: Ditching Players

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:41 am

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Ted, as a long standing supporter, how would you feel about us competing in a Euro breakaway league against the likes Barca, Milan and the other G14 clubs rather than playing against our traditional foes?


You are assuming the Prem would kick us out. Imo, they won't.

I'd rather things stay as they are if it was a choice but if Platini tries to fuck City etc up, the idea we are just going to sit there & take it, is frankly, fucking ridiculous. I think Barca etc are in a similar position because of their debt & Spain's economy & there are clubs over here like Spurs & Liverpool who may be left out of the 'elite' group in the future but could guarantee big income by being part of it.

Imo, you can learn as much from the teams who aren't in it, as the teams who are.

Rags, Real Madrid, AC, Inter, Bayern Munich. Most of the teams who have carved up UEFA for their own good & are still running the show.

Everyone else is interested. Imo UEFA will try to take it over & tempt teams out of it before it's proven that they are not needed.

Imagine Platini making life difficult for City, Chelsea, Barca etc if this competition has been up & running for 5 years without UEFA, with big TV money ready to back a senior version. ? Cue AC/ Inter jumping ship straight away & talks opening with the others.

In the long run, it could just work alongside domestic competition & lead to a breakaway from FIFA for international football.
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Re: Ditching Players

Postby carolina-blue » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:34 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:What hike in ticket prices, the QPR game is 20 notes?



Id,e let the Rs in for nothing Those vids of them celebrating when we got the third were great.
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Re: Ditching Players

Postby Swales4ever » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:49 am

Ted Hughes wrote:We had to pay over the odds wages in order to persuade these players to sign for City because we weren't a fashionable club to sign for at the time. They, quite rightly, don't see why they should take a cut in wages, when they have been ready & willing to play for the club & have been discarded.

The clubs who are interested in them do not pay wages of that level & the players involved are not good enough to merit those clubs breaking their pay structure, so either City, or the player, has to sacrifice money in order for them to move on.

That's why we can't shift them.

My beloved, extremely respected Ted,
the third reason why I love You so much (besides Your very remarkable understanding of football and Your genuine vision for a romantic way to preserve its original beauty and charme) is the amazing way You, sometimes, make and stand by Your points.

while the first sentence preamble is a no brainer, I am amazed by the way You pretend not to see that one of the differences which distinguishes a global top club from a just nationwide midtable one is the ability to deal with and sort out those kind of issues.
the likes of AC Milan, fucking Juventus, fucking Rags, fucking Bayern, RM and Barca have been quite profitably offloaded their highly paid scraps (become redundant either by age or changing of playing style/management) for ages to the so called lesser clubs, sometimes satellite clubs. In a way, that is what defines the power and influence of a club and - most of all - what defines the job itself of a sporting director and his/her ability to earn a top salary.
I can concede that in the very last years the influence of finance on football has peaked to levels that even those football aristocrats struggle to cope with, but yet again You don't need to pay a senior director salary to have a bloke only capable to buy players (when he succeed to) at twice the market value and sell them at one fifth of the market value,contributing to pay the remainder of their inflated wages when they become redundant.
every Mancio4ever or Beefy of this world can do that for a normal employee wage and, more seriously, I am convinced that a Ted Hughes will certainly do better than what MCFC is getting from is amateur tv pundit, even providing that said Ted Hughes don't features the necessarily influence on the market that an employer would presume when hiring a sporting director.
and to make the point even stronger, I'd like to draw Your attention to the fact that the Italian managers, even the most senior and established ones, are well used to share decisions on market strategies with the Club's Owners and even with sporting directors: it lasts in the tradidion of Italian football at club level: so that, if Mancini has felt the need to speak out his discontent for 2 consecutive seasons, You can rest assured that it is an issue: otherwise - different from the use of British and north European managers, he will be more than happy to have an effective sporting director who acheive the targets given, and previously agreed with Owner and Chairman: targets which can be reasonably presumed to consist in a couple of options for each role to be covered.

I will never get tired of calling after that issue and I am pretty sure that, as happened for other previous matters, in a year or two, there will be plenty of voices pointing out that issue.

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
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Re: Ditching Players

Postby Avalon » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:09 am

I just think that there needs to be stricter control on owners. Stricter control on debt and a more aggressive approach to clubs that are in debt.

Surely, when an invester wants to buy a club, he must adhere to certain targets, no? Why isn't there like a scheme in place that tells people that they must show a plan of what they want to do with the club, must provide proof that they can afford it all, must go through some sort of credit check/validation to see how money's been used in the last x years.

Then, when a club goes in debt, immediately go on top of it. Check it out, get them to reduce the debt asap, or the club will lose points. There's no point in fining a club that's in debt, as that will only increase the debt.

I'm all for clubs spending money however they see fit. It allows a small club to use their funds, so long they can afford it. It is what got us to where we were. Rich owner, willing to invest and he did.
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