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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:35 am

Some of his movement last night was fantastic and he walked between defenders several times. But, as ever, he did nothing in a big game

Hope we get Barca next season, as I want to see Messi that close.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Green & Blue » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:54 am

Great footballer but he can't escape from being an intolerable bell end of a human being.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:14 am

Better than anything we have and he made Kompany at one point look like a schoolboy defender.
As others have said if it wasn't for Messi he'd be far and away the best in the world.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Mike J » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:32 am

He is a fucking great player, one of the best i have seen. At times in the 1st half he destroyed us.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby london blue 2 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:53 am

I prefer our David
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:54 am

Mike J wrote:He is a fucking great player, one of the best i have seen. At times in the 1st half he destroyed us.


Looked like he was about to destroy us then didn't, you mean.

His attributes are obvious but he is a player who is flawed & also a player you have to make special provisions for, if he is in your team.

As a wide player for instance, he unbalances the team & you almost need another extra player on that side. He was one of the main reasons City were able to get at Real 2nd half.

Imo, if Ronald plays, you have to treat him almost as you would a centre forward ie: don't expect him to do anything but play in the opponent's half.

But, he's a wanker & Messi is better. Play that formation v Messi & we'll be 6 down by half time.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Mike J » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:23 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Mike J wrote:He is a fucking great player, one of the best i have seen. At times in the 1st half he destroyed us.


Looked like he was about to destroy us then didn't, you mean.

His attributes are obvious but he is a player who is flawed & also a player you have to make special provisions for, if he is in your team.

As a wide player for instance, he unbalances the team & you almost need another extra player on that side. He was one of the main reasons City were able to get at Real 2nd half.

Imo, if Ronald plays, you have to treat him almost as you would a centre forward ie: don't expect him to do anything but play in the opponent's half.

But, he's a wanker & Messi is better. Play that formation v Messi & we'll be 6 down by half time.


You know what i meant. In the sense that we couldnt deal with his movement at all, the speed he was moving the ball at and as mentioned already he was making Kompny look like a school boy player.

He is certainly flawed and he is indeed a wanker. But i would love to see a player of that standard at city. We have great players but tranny and messi are ona different level entirely.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Dameerto » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:35 am

I nearly pissed myself laughing when Big Dave nicked the ball off his foot near the touchline in our side of the pitch during the second half, then spun around and sprinted off towards their end.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:55 am

london blue 2 wrote:I prefer our David

As a human being maybe but he's not even close to Ronaldo ability wise.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby london blue 2 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:57 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:I prefer our David

As a human being maybe but he's not even close to Ronaldo ability wise.

On the evidence of last night he's better. To suggest he's not even close is ridiculous.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Dameerto » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:05 am

Dave doesn't twitch his leg like an epileptic rabbit while stood staring at the opposition's defender for five minutes - if that makes him a worse player then I'll take it.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:38 am

london blue 2 wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:I prefer our David

As a human being maybe but he's not even close to Ronaldo ability wise.

On the evidence of last night he's better. To suggest he's not even close is ridiculous.

On the evidence of one game? So are Ajax better than us? You can't judge off one game. Ronaldo scored 60 odd goals last season.That contribution alone makes himamore valuable asset. SIlva's brilliant but not at Ronaldo's level.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby london blue 2 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:42 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:I prefer our David

As a human being maybe but he's not even close to Ronaldo ability wise.

On the evidence of last night he's better. To suggest he's not even close is ridiculous.

On the evidence of one game? So are Ajax better than us? You can't judge off one game. Ronaldo scored 60 odd goals last season.That contribution alone makes himamore valuable asset. SIlva's brilliant but not at Ronaldo's level.

I never said he was better. I simply said I prefer him and that yesterday he played better.

I also rubbished your opinion that he is not even close to Ronaldo ability wise. As far as being close to the two best players in the world you dont get much much better than our Dave. You could also argue that on the big stage he's a more consistant performer.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:47 am

london blue 2 wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:I prefer our David

As a human being maybe but he's not even close to Ronaldo ability wise.

On the evidence of last night he's better. To suggest he's not even close is ridiculous.

On the evidence of one game? So are Ajax better than us? You can't judge off one game. Ronaldo scored 60 odd goals last season.That contribution alone makes himamore valuable asset. SIlva's brilliant but not at Ronaldo's level.

I never said he was better. I simply said I prefer him and that yesterday he played better.

I also rubbished your opinion that he is not even close to Ronaldo ability wise. As far as being close to the two best players in the world you dont get much much better than our Dave. You could also argue that on the big stage he's a more consistant performer.


I don't see the 'Ronaldo doesn't perform on big stages argument' He scored in the Champions League final and regularly scores against Barca.
Granted he doesn't perform for Portugal now.

I still think Silva doesn't score enough and that's the only thing stopping him reaching the level of Ronaldo and Messi.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby london blue 2 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:03 pm

I agree with you on the scoring part. Only thing missing from his game.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:06 pm

london blue 2 wrote:I agree with you on the scoring part. Only thing missing from his game.

It's frustrating that a player with such fantastic technique and ability just crumbles infront of goal. With his positioning and ability he hasthe potential to score 20 plus a season. One he does that he'll be close to the very best.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby bobby brows » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:18 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Mike J wrote:He is a fucking great player, one of the best i have seen. At times in the 1st half he destroyed us.


Looked like he was about to destroy us then didn't, you mean.

His attributes are obvious but he is a player who is flawed & also a player you have to make special provisions for, if he is in your team.

As a wide player for instance, he unbalances the team & you almost need another extra player on that side. He was one of the main reasons City were able to get at Real 2nd half.

Imo, if Ronald plays, you have to treat him almost as you would a centre forward ie: don't expect him to do anything but play in the opponent's half.

But, he's a wanker & Messi is better. Play that formation v Messi & we'll be 6 down by half time.


Personally think we made him look better than he was in the first half last night.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby aaron bond » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:52 pm

He is undoubtedly a massive wanker, but he is a brilliant footballer. He and Messi are leagues above anybody else.

I don't really get the 'he never performs in big games' argument. He actually does a lot of the time. I think it's one of those media myths that started and has continued (like many about City!). Furthermore, people have mentioned he unbalances a team but who cares!?!? He scores 50-60 goals a season! That more than makes up for a slightly unbalanced side!

I would have him at City, but for the amount he would cost, it's probably not worth it considering our efforts to become a self-sustaining club. As I mentioned before, he is a wanker, but look back on all the things Tevez has done to us since he joined us and the reality is he is a wanker too, yet we are all happy to let that slide as long as he performs.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:20 pm

aaron bond wrote:.

I don't really get the 'he never performs in big games' argument. He actually does a lot of the time. I think it's one of those media myths that started and has continued (like many about City!).

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He's there with the likes of Ronaldinho and Del Piero - brilliant players but when you need them to really dig in and perform when the chips are down, they disappear. Baggio dragged Italy to a World Cup final in 94 and they may have won it, if he'd been fit for that game. Maradona won a World Cup in 86. There may have been others in the Argentina side, but no one can remember. Tranny is no where near that level of mental grit and there a dozens of examples of days when he does nothing - lots for Portugal and pretty much every Manchester derby despite usually playing a shit City side.
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Re: Ronaldo

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:45 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
aaron bond wrote:.

I don't really get the 'he never performs in big games' argument. He actually does a lot of the time. I think it's one of those media myths that started and has continued (like many about City!).

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He's there with the likes of Ronaldinho and Del Piero - brilliant players but when you need them to really dig in and perform when the chips are down, they disappear. Baggio dragged Italy to a World Cup final in 94 and they may have won it, if he'd been fit for that game. Maradona won a World Cup in 86. There may have been others in the Argentina side, but no one can remember. Tranny is no where near that level of mental grit and there a dozens of examples of days when he does nothing - lots for Portugal and pretty much every Manchester derby despite usually playing a shit City side.

He's not going to bring Portugal to a trophy. Plus those players you mentioned played for Italy and Argentina, of course they're going to do better.

He's a great player who brings it to big games (you mentioned Manchester derbies but they weren't big in the scheme then), evident just last month when he ran rings round Barca at the Nou Camo and scored two.
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