9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby ross.mcfc » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:18 pm

Goataldo wrote:We weakened our squad last summer ditching Johnson for Sinclair, and de Jong for Garcia - although Garcia is growing in stature game by game, at this stage of the season the necessity of his settling in has hampered our challenge. Scum got RVP, who was a main target of ours. We weakened again this last window selling Mario.

It's a big ask before you even look at the current points difference.


This.

We won the league on goal difference last season so it's fair to say both sides are of equalish quality, Both flopped in Europe and were out of the FA cup not to far from each other.

They added one world class striker to their side, we either stood still or took a step back. It's not rocket science to suggest you could see they were going to be stronger than us on day one of the new season.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:07 am

Goataldo wrote:We weakened our squad last summer ditching Johnson for Sinclair, and de Jong for Garcia - although Garcia is growing in stature game by game, at this stage of the season the necessity of his settling in has hampered our challenge. Scum got RVP, who was a main target of ours. We weakened again this last window selling Mario.

It's a big ask before you even look at the current points difference.


The points aj came off the bench and won are a big miss for my money.

Sinclair hasn't done anything at all to suggest he's worth having in the squad.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Chopper » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:09 am

Depends on whether or not van pussie stays healthy. He has been the difference this season.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby xavi6 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:11 am

Yeah it's gone but second and the cup would be acceptable.

Anything less and it's been a poor season with regression rather than progression.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby MR IMAINEROAD » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:12 am

Not to be too pessimistic but it went before we started

Hazard = Lost
VPersie = Lost
de Rossi = Lost
De Jong = Lost
AJ = Lost

We did not strengthen our team when that was the most important thing to do. SAF knew this. He's been buying everyone else's best players for 25 years from Bryan Robson onwards... (how many times has he smashed the transfer limit? Is it 8?)

There's no magic to the scum they are parasites. When we try to muscle in they squeal like pigs.

Not that I'm bitter and I know it's just a game but it makes my blood boil when they change the rules (their rules) just when we're in a position to compete on a regular basis.

At least Balotelli was fun. And I've never felt as excited watching a City player since Rodney Marsh....


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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:29 am

Who's in 3rd?
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby MR IMAINEROAD » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:00 am

Who's on first.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby aaron bond » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:15 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Goataldo wrote:We weakened our squad last summer ditching Johnson for Sinclair, and de Jong for Garcia - although Garcia is growing in stature game by game, at this stage of the season the necessity of his settling in has hampered our challenge. Scum got RVP, who was a main target of ours. We weakened again this last window selling Mario.

It's a big ask before you even look at the current points difference.


The points aj came off the bench and won are a big miss for my money.

Sinclair hasn't done anything at all to suggest he's worth having in the squad.


To be fair to Sinclair, he's not exactly been given a chance. I'd like to see him get a few games so we can properly assess him.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:29 am

aaron bond wrote:
To be fair to Sinclair, he's not exactly been given a chance. I'd like to see him get a few games so we can properly assess him.


I wouldn't, we're in no position to carry passengers and I'm not even saying he's done nothing as in regards to us getting points. He's literally not done anything on the pitch worth benching Milner or Nasri or Garcia for. Not one cross, shot, dribble. Nothing.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby aaron bond » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:53 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
To be fair to Sinclair, he's not exactly been given a chance. I'd like to see him get a few games so we can properly assess him.


I wouldn't, we're in no position to carry passengers and I'm not even saying he's done nothing as in regards to us getting points. He's literally not done anything on the pitch worth benching Milner or Nasri or Garcia for. Not one cross, shot, dribble. Nothing.


Personally, I don't really see how anyone can pass judgement on him. He's never been given an opportunity to play more than a few minutes at a time.

Considering that whenever Nasri plays, it's like playing with 10, or the number of appalling performances we've seen from Aguero this season (plus plenty of other players), I don't see how Sinclair could do much worse.

He's kept quiet this season and not moaned at all, like many players would. I'm sure he's well aware his chances are limited with us, but I think he's earned at least a couple of starts to see what he can do. Southampton away and Leeds in the cup are both good opportunities to do so.

Admittedly I was never convinced by signing him in the first place, but now he's here and we've spent the money, we should at least see what he's got to offer.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby City64 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:52 am

All looked good yesterday lunchtime, our minibus made its way down deansgate , the banter was good , we passed the whole city squad having there pre match walk along deansgate back to the hilton hotel , the minibus pulled into El Rincons, tapas and beer aplenty , life was good ! Black cab to the Etihad via the City Arms then everything suddenly turned sour. It was clear what we were up against ..... the officials wernt looking after the home team , scouse 1 were getting away with some unreal decisions , City wernt playing well but then we score and all is well again , but not for long ! Edin has been upended from behind the bald cunt refering turns yet another blind eye and it is suddenly 1-1. It got ugly inside the Etihad , the crowd were baying conspiricy , mafia etc etc etc ........

To the city players great credit they refused to lose yet again and a wonderful goal from Sergio keeps our faint hopes alive. Another thing i witnessed yesterday is the fact that the Livepool fans hate the rags as much as we do and they applauded a couple of the city chants. The ride continues , there is still some hope BUT i like many many others think THIS title IS being manufactured by outside forces for the rags to win , nuff said !
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:17 am

Just saw a tweet from Gary James - this time last season we were 5 clear of the rags who them went 8 clear of us, so they made up 13 points.

At the point they were catching us last season would anyone have believed they would get 8 points clear, let alone we'd get them back? The fat lady isn't even in her dressing room yet.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby john@staustell » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:19 am

Well you have to assume we win at OT - as that is obviously a requirement. That leaves 6 other points. I'm sure their luck will fade a bit soon.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:31 am

They have to slump & we have to start playing well.

But the gap is only 9 points if we win every game.

Do we look like winning every game ?

I would say that, as things stand, the rags need to lose 4 or 5, as we will drop points too.

The truth is that neither the rags, nor City are especially good teams this season, & the Premier League standard at the top end has dropped, whilst improving at the mid to lower levels.

It could be the case of City or Utd limping to the title after losing a few games each but that needs teams to get stuck into the rags like they have with us. Compare Liverpool's first half performance at the swamp to the preformance at our place & we see the problem.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:46 am

Ted Hughes wrote: needs teams to get stuck into the rags like they have with us. Compare Liverpool's first half performance at the swamp to the preformance at our place & we see the problem.


This is what struck me yesterday, why were Liverpool so lethargic against the Rags at the Swamp in the first half? They looked a team already beat. They began to play when it was too late. As opposed to yesterday where they were up for it from the off and didn't give us a second to breath.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:09 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: needs teams to get stuck into the rags like they have with us. Compare Liverpool's first half performance at the swamp to the preformance at our place & we see the problem.


This is what struck me yesterday, why were Liverpool so lethargic against the Rags at the Swamp in the first half? They looked a team already beat. They began to play when it was too late. As opposed to yesterday where they were up for it from the off and didn't give us a second to breath.


We seem to have become the team for which the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Spurs raise their game.

Imo, provided we actually learn from it, that isn't a bad thing. It's bad short term but it also demands we get better, which we will either with Bob or someone else.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:19 pm

After the game I was walking back past the complex, I thought City are on the right track, planning a big bright future. The short comings with Roberto will one way or another get ironed out, For now he has no choice but take of the Italian shackles and like last year Wins are needed. Time for our Squad and manager to justify the tag of Champions. Aguro looked like fuck this last 20 we need that from more players. Turning to the FA Cup, Leeds is no give me and we will need to be at it in what I hope the manager and coaches have the players aware will be a mad 100 MPH and nothing like Watford.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: needs teams to get stuck into the rags like they have with us. Compare Liverpool's first half performance at the swamp to the preformance at our place & we see the problem.


This is what struck me yesterday, why were Liverpool so lethargic against the Rags at the Swamp in the first half? They looked a team already beat. They began to play when it was too late. As opposed to yesterday where they were up for it from the off and didn't give us a second to breath.


We seem to have become the team for which the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Spurs raise their game.

Imo, provided we actually learn from it, that isn't a bad thing. It's bad short term but it also demands we get better, which we will either with Bob or someone else.

We invited them on yesterday, Ted. Those teams you mention see us invariably set up in an overly-cautious way. It's the draws that are killing us and we don't do ourselves any favours with our attitude in these games.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:32 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: needs teams to get stuck into the rags like they have with us. Compare Liverpool's first half performance at the swamp to the preformance at our place & we see the problem.


This is what struck me yesterday, why were Liverpool so lethargic against the Rags at the Swamp in the first half? They looked a team already beat. They began to play when it was too late. As opposed to yesterday where they were up for it from the off and didn't give us a second to breath.


We seem to have become the team for which the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Spurs raise their game.

Imo, provided we actually learn from it, that isn't a bad thing. It's bad short term but it also demands we get better, which we will either with Bob or someone else.

We invited them on yesterday, Ted. Those teams you mention see us invariably set up in an overly-cautious way. It's the draws that are killing us and we don't do ourselves any favours with our attitude in these games.


I don't think we are cautious at all, I just think we are badly drilled.

When we do play a cautious game against a top side playing similarly, Mancini is the master. When we attack against a well organised defence or a team really attacks us, he is so far found wanting.
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Re: 9 pts - Surmountable or Title Gone?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:54 pm

MR IMAINEROAD wrote:Who's on first.

What's on first. Who's on third.
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