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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:12 pm

littlebig wrote:You're right city64, first kick was decent but the second was a shocker from te keeper


I agree to a point but if you watch the trajectory of the ball, it's unusual in that it actually starts going to the keeprs left then does him on the right.

It's this new toe ending hoofy trick some have perfected. I think if you can generate enough power in the right area, the modern football acts differently & spins differently, so it bends &/or dips without spinning much, like a reverse swinging cricket ball.

I doubt the players know exactly what it will do, they just know it will do 'something' & possibly dip. I think you have to have a lot of power to do it very effectively; it's a bit like when you welt the shit out of one of those crappy plastic footballs, as a kid, & it bends all over the place.

Mario Balotelli has the power in his legs to do that & had I been his position, I would have put the practice in, every day, to perfect it. He would rather be on a go kart or a fruit machine.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby City64 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
littlebig wrote:You're right city64, first kick was decent but the second was a shocker from te keeper


I agree to a point but if you watch the trajectory of the ball, it's unusual in that it actually starts going to the keeprs left then does him on the right.

It's this new toe ending hoofy trick some have perfected. I think if you can generate enough power in the right area, the modern football acts differently & spins differently, so it bends &/or dips without spinning much, like a reverse swinging cricket ball.

I doubt the players know exactly what it will do, they just know it will do 'something' & possibly dip. I think you have to have a lot of power to do it very effectively; it's a bit like when you welt the shit out of one of those crappy plastic footballs, as a kid, & it bends all over the place.

Mario Balotelli has the power in his legs to do that & had I been his position, I would have put the practice in, every day, to perfect it. He would rather be on a go kart or a fruit machine.


Tevez and Kolarov take a better free kick than Bale imho , Mario always wanted to stand over our free kicks in certain areas but was in truth fuckin useless at taking them which led to him being "shoved" away by his own team mates on several very well publicised occasions . The Lyon keeper should have saved the 2nd Bale free kick and possibly the first even with the dip and kick up off the surface .
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:36 pm

Tevez and Kolarov take a better free kick than Bale imho

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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Original Dub » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:41 pm

City64 wrote:
Tevez and Kolarov take a better free kick than Bale imho , Mario always wanted to stand over our free kicks in certain areas but was in truth fuckin useless at taking them which led to him being "shoved" away by his own team mates on several very well publicised occasions . The Lyon keeper should have saved the 2nd Bale free kick and possibly the first even with the dip and kick up off the surface .


I wonder what Kolarov v Bale's shot to goal ratio is from free kicks over the last two seasons? Close enough I'd imagine.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby City64 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:49 pm

Original Dub wrote:
City64 wrote:
Tevez and Kolarov take a better free kick than Bale imho , Mario always wanted to stand over our free kicks in certain areas but was in truth fuckin useless at taking them which led to him being "shoved" away by his own team mates on several very well publicised occasions . The Lyon keeper should have saved the 2nd Bale free kick and possibly the first even with the dip and kick up off the surface .


I wonder what Kolarov v Bale's shot to goal ratio is from free kicks over the last two seasons? Close enough I'd imagine.


Think Kolarov would edge it meself freekick wise .
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby aguero123 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:00 pm

Why is it that once a player plays good we get in these rumours that were buying them? Like a rumour of a massive summer buying spree? Dont u guys understand that buying top players is not the anwser to success? We have to develop from the academy and not go buy Cavani, Bale, Suarez etc.. We will just be a laughing stock and if we win a champions league in the near future, people will just say " any team can win with the money that was spent". We need a manager who can develop young talent and promote them to the 1st team and its not Roberto. Txiki and Soriano are here for that reason, look what they did with Barca! Dennis Suarez, Marcos Lopes, John Guidetti, Karim Rekik, Rodwell etc need to be worked developed. Chemistry is the biggest thing in top teams. Bayern and Barca both produce there top players and theyve both been to the champions league finals 2 times each in the last 4 years. Chemistry was the reason for our champiions league dropout the last 2 years. BUYING IS NOT THE ANWSER.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Clowncrete » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:11 pm

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Bianchi on Ice wrote:Cant see City even approaching spurs for bale. mind you i was totally wrong in my thinking re balotelli leaving so what do i know?

He'd cost upward of £40 million if he went to an English team, I reckon. Would we be willing to spend that kind of money on a player like Bale?



All the talk I have heard was £50 million and I think he would look to move of Spurs don't make the chumps league.There is only Bale to get them there.We would have to fight of the likes of Madrid which wouldn't be easy

Small-minded I know, but I wouldn't give a penny to anyone who voted for these anti-competition rules that the PL are about to bring in. Not even for Bale.


Actually they would be a mid-table team without Bale, so if we do buy him, they will likely not even qualify for the CL, unless they buy someone good with those 50 million. And without CL, they are doomed.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:12 pm

aguero123 wrote:Why is it that once a player plays good we get in these rumours that were buying them? Like a rumour of a massive summer buying spree? Dont u guys understand that buying top players is not the anwser to success? We have to develop from the academy and not go buy Cavani, Bale, Suarez etc.. We will just be a laughing stock and if we win a champions league in the near future, people will just say " any team can win with the money that was spent". We need a manager who can develop young talent and promote them to the 1st team and its not Roberto. Txiki and Soriano are here for that reason, look what they did with Barca! Dennis Suarez, Marcos Lopes, John Guidetti, Karim Rekik, Rodwell etc need to be worked developed. Chemistry is the biggest thing in top teams. Bayern and Barca both produce there top players and theyve both been to the champions league finals 2 times each in the last 4 years. Chemistry was the reason for our champiions league dropout the last 2 years. BUYING IS NOT THE ANWSER.


Where is this rumour that we are buying him ?
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby aguero123 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:44 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Where is this rumour that we are buying him ?


This whole forum is saying we need a player like him who ia great from free kicks. Surely saying u wanna buy him
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby freshie » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:08 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
I agree to a point but if you watch the trajectory of the ball, it's unusual in that it actually starts going to the keeprs left then does him on the right.

It's this new toe ending hoofy trick some have perfected. I think if you can generate enough power in the right area, the modern football acts differently & spins differently, so it bends &/or dips without spinning much, like a reverse swinging cricket ball.

I doubt the players know exactly what it will do, they just know it will do 'something' & possibly dip. I think you have to have a lot of power to do it very effectively; it's a bit like when you welt the shit out of one of those crappy plastic footballs, as a kid, & it bends all over the place.

Mario Balotelli has the power in his legs to do that & had I been his position, I would have put the practice in, every day, to perfect it. He would rather be on a go kart or a fruit machine.


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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:14 pm

aguero123 wrote:Why is it that once a player plays good we get in these rumours that were buying them? Like a rumour of a massive summer buying spree? Dont u guys understand that buying top players is not the anwser to success? We have to develop from the academy and not go buy Cavani, Bale, Suarez etc.. We will just be a laughing stock and if we win a champions league in the near future, people will just say " any team can win with the money that was spent". We need a manager who can develop young talent and promote them to the 1st team and its not Roberto. Txiki and Soriano are here for that reason, look what they did with Barca! Dennis Suarez, Marcos Lopes, John Guidetti, Karim Rekik, Rodwell etc need to be worked developed. Chemistry is the biggest thing in top teams. Bayern and Barca both produce there top players and theyve both been to the champions league finals 2 times each in the last 4 years. Chemistry was the reason for our champiions league dropout the last 2 years. BUYING IS NOT THE ANWSER.

A laughing stock? And why would any City fan give a shit what other fans think about how much money we've spent? How do you think Real Madrid have won their European trophies from day one? 5 foreigners regularly in their 1956-60 five-in-a-row team.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby aguero123 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:18 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
aguero123 wrote:Why is it that once a player plays good we get in these rumours that were buying them? Like a rumour of a massive summer buying spree? Dont u guys understand that buying top players is not the anwser to success? We have to develop from the academy and not go buy Cavani, Bale, Suarez etc.. We will just be a laughing stock and if we win a champions league in the near future, people will just say " any team can win with the money that was spent". We need a manager who can develop young talent and promote them to the 1st team and its not Roberto. Txiki and Soriano are here for that reason, look what they did with Barca! Dennis Suarez, Marcos Lopes, John Guidetti, Karim Rekik, Rodwell etc need to be worked developed. Chemistry is the biggest thing in top teams. Bayern and Barca both produce there top players and theyve both been to the champions league finals 2 times each in the last 4 years. Chemistry was the reason for our champiions league dropout the last 2 years. BUYING IS NOT THE ANWSER.

A laughing stock? And why would any City fan give a shit what other fans think about how much money we've spent? How do you think Real Madrid have won their European trophies from day one? 5 foreigners regularly in their 1956-60 five-in-a-row team.


Why do i care? because all people say about City is they just buy all the top talents. And im trying to say if we win the champions league soon all people will say is give us that money to spend and well win to.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby chips » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:04 pm

aguero123 wrote:
Why do i care? because all people say about City is they just buy all the top talents. And im trying to say if we win the champions league soon all people will say is give us that money to spend and well win to.


You lot at the swamp already spent lots of money, that's why you've won it in the past.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:06 pm

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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby john68 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:29 am

aguero123 wrote:Why is it that once a player plays good we get in these rumours that were buying them? Like a rumour of a massive summer buying spree? Dont u guys understand that buying top players is not the anwser to success? We have to develop from the academy and not go buy Cavani, Bale, Suarez etc.. We will just be a laughing stock and if we win a champions league in the near future, people will just say " any team can win with the money that was spent". We need a manager who can develop young talent and promote them to the 1st team and its not Roberto. Txiki and Soriano are here for that reason, look what they did with Barca! Dennis Suarez, Marcos Lopes, John Guidetti, Karim Rekik, Rodwell etc need to be worked developed. Chemistry is the biggest thing in top teams. Bayern and Barca both produce there top players and theyve both been to the champions league finals 2 times each in the last 4 years. Chemistry was the reason for our champiions league dropout the last 2 years. BUYING IS NOT THE ANWSER.


I totally agree. but don't see your problem. If you had noted any of the too few pronouncements from our owners and controllers, you would already know that. The initial buying spree was in order to get City into a CL qualifying place, necessary to enhance our European coefficient, increase our global profile and assist our revenue streams.
The long term plan always was and still is to develop our own youth. That is why the Eitihad Academy Campus is currently being constructed.
It is not the managers responsibility to develop the young talent, it is the responsibility of the youth coaching system. Mancini or whoever is in charge, will only get them when they are ready to step up. Only then will he have the responsibility to finish them off.

It will now be interesting to see your response to a post that doesn't just tell you to fuck off.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby City64 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:23 am

john68 wrote:
aguero123 wrote:Why is it that once a player plays good we get in these rumours that were buying them? Like a rumour of a massive summer buying spree? Dont u guys understand that buying top players is not the anwser to success? We have to develop from the academy and not go buy Cavani, Bale, Suarez etc.. We will just be a laughing stock and if we win a champions league in the near future, people will just say " any team can win with the money that was spent". We need a manager who can develop young talent and promote them to the 1st team and its not Roberto. Txiki and Soriano are here for that reason, look what they did with Barca! Dennis Suarez, Marcos Lopes, John Guidetti, Karim Rekik, Rodwell etc need to be worked developed. Chemistry is the biggest thing in top teams. Bayern and Barca both produce there top players and theyve both been to the champions league finals 2 times each in the last 4 years. Chemistry was the reason for our champiions league dropout the last 2 years. BUYING IS NOT THE ANWSER.


I totally agree. but don't see your problem. If you had noted any of the too few pronouncements from our owners and controllers, you would already know that. The initial buying spree was in order to get City into a CL qualifying place, necessary to enhance our European coefficient, increase our global profile and assist our revenue streams.
The long term plan always was and still is to develop our own youth. That is why the Eitihad Academy Campus is currently being constructed.
It is not the managers responsibility to develop the young talent, it is the responsibility of the youth coaching system. Mancini or whoever is in charge, will only get them when they are ready to step up. Only then will he have the responsibility to finish them off.

It will now be interesting to see your response to a post that doesn't just tell you to fuck off.



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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Benjay » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:07 am

With FFP coming in I cant see how we can afford to spend large amounts on players such as Cavani, Bale etc. The onus therefore is on developing youth or looking for good undiscovered talent which is perhaps why Laudrup is being linked in the press today. Its an easy link for them to make but the manager needs to embrace the development project and I wonder if Bobby has. Ok he has played a few of the kids every now and again but not regularly. It will be interesting to see his team selections from now in.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:54 am

Benjay wrote:With FFP coming in I cant see how we can afford to spend large amounts on players such as Cavani, Bale etc. The onus therefore is on developing youth or looking for good undiscovered talent which is perhaps why Laudrup is being linked in the press today. Its an easy link for them to make but the manager needs to embrace the development project and I wonder if Bobby has. Ok he has played a few of the kids every now and again but not regularly. It will be interesting to see his team selections from now in.

I think Laudrup is going to be a fantastic manager. However, at the moment he isn't an upgrade on Mancini (proven winner) and a serious risk to boot. I think Mancini will be here next season (unless we have some kind of meltdown) and that he'll actually get a couple of players this summer that will improve the team, moving on some of the less than impressive contributors from this season to do so.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby ross.mcfc » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:33 pm

There is a good arguement that he is currently the 3rd best player in the world. If he was up for sale every top side who could afford him would want him. He would walk into anyside and instantly make them better.

I was at the Scotland vrs Wales game a few months ago which admittedly is a glorified bum fight but the majority of players on the pitch were Premiership players. He was so far ahead of everyone else it was untrue.
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Re: Bale + 10 Donkeys v Lyon

Postby Original Dub » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:27 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:There is a good arguement that he is currently the 3rd best player in the world. If he was up for sale every top side who could afford him would want him. He would walk into anyside and instantly make them better.

I was at the Scotland vrs Wales game a few months ago which admittedly is a glorified bum fight but the majority of players on the pitch were Premiership players. He was so far ahead of everyone else it was untrue.


I think that argument would be absolutely ridiculous.
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