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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby s1ty m » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:25 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:He's not had his best season but jesus, theres been far far worse than him this year.

Vincent Kompany's very sub-par season appears to have proved he's teflon like from criticism. Our front 3 have all blown too hot and cold, Nasri disappeared for 6 months, Silva has looked tired and needs a break, whilst Ya Ya has had some very poor games and is king of the petulant booking too - how many times has he kicked the ball away, or thrown it down in a tantrum to pick up a needless yellow?


Kompany has been very poor, when fit, in my opinion.

Fair paly to call out Nasri who is as soft as shite, but Dzeko and Kolarov are the worst. Joe has not been great, but marvellous compared to those two.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby PeterParker » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:27 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
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Hart is having some issues, and all this started from the QPR game from last season. I am not the type of person to critisize players just for the fun of it, but i am not blind to see that his isn't Joey anymore. His problems with Bobby, his friendship with the rags and so on.

I am considering Hart having the same problems he had before going to B"gham because his reactions are late and started to have the habit to conceid at the opponent first shot, like he did.

I am not saying he isn't class, i am saying he is complacent with his role, he did so many mistakes and he still played every game.

I dislike that old fuck from the other part of town, but he started to use Lindegaard instead of De Gay, and now that fucker had a good second part of the season, no more shitty performances.

Maybe this is what Joey needs, even though Lemmons is a ticking bomb.


FIrst of all, how is his friendship with players from United affecting him in a negative way? Second of all, problems with Bobby? Sorry but I've missed that. Do you have a link or something of the sort? Honest question, I must've missed something. But in all honesty, how the hell do you connect whatever problems he might have on-field with these factors?

De Gea made worse mistakes than Hart has done this season, which might have had something to do with him being replaced, rather than just mind games.

I don't think anyone would disagree that this season Hart has made more mistakes than the last one but it hasn't been shit and it deffo hasn't been anything close to De Gea's first season in the PL. Now he really had problems with crosses and corners, just like the Joe Hart of the old days.

I hope Mancini judges Hart on more than who his friends are.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -team.html

This is one, it was a video too, can't find it right now though. They had a burst up after the game in Madrid and again after the game with filth.

De Gea was shite in his first season, but now looks ok after he spent some games on the bench. Maybe this can bring Joe back to his normal way, a thew moments off the field
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:42 pm

PeterParker wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Hart is having some issues, and all this started from the QPR game from last season. I am not the type of person to critisize players just for the fun of it, but i am not blind to see that his isn't Joey anymore. His problems with Bobby, his friendship with the rags and so on.

I am considering Hart having the same problems he had before going to B"gham because his reactions are late and started to have the habit to conceid at the opponent first shot, like he did.

I am not saying he isn't class, i am saying he is complacent with his role, he did so many mistakes and he still played every game.

I dislike that old fuck from the other part of town, but he started to use Lindegaard instead of De Gay, and now that fucker had a good second part of the season, no more shitty performances.

Maybe this is what Joey needs, even though Lemmons is a ticking bomb.


FIrst of all, how is his friendship with players from United affecting him in a negative way? Second of all, problems with Bobby? Sorry but I've missed that. Do you have a link or something of the sort? Honest question, I must've missed something. But in all honesty, how the hell do you connect whatever problems he might have on-field with these factors?

De Gea made worse mistakes than Hart has done this season, which might have had something to do with him being replaced, rather than just mind games.

I don't think anyone would disagree that this season Hart has made more mistakes than the last one but it hasn't been shit and it deffo hasn't been anything close to De Gea's first season in the PL. Now he really had problems with crosses and corners, just like the Joe Hart of the old days.

I hope Mancini judges Hart on more than who his friends are.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -team.html

This is one, it was a video too, can't find it right now though. They had a burst up after the game in Madrid and again after the game with filth.

De Gea was shite in his first season, but now looks ok after he spent some games on the bench. Maybe this can bring Joe back to his normal way, a thew moments off the field


So you are saying that Joe Hart and Mancini are having issues based on that they had a spat after the Real Madrid game?
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby PeterParker » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:45 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Hart is having some issues, and all this started from the QPR game from last season. I am not the type of person to critisize players just for the fun of it, but i am not blind to see that his isn't Joey anymore. His problems with Bobby, his friendship with the rags and so on.

I am considering Hart having the same problems he had before going to B"gham because his reactions are late and started to have the habit to conceid at the opponent first shot, like he did.

I am not saying he isn't class, i am saying he is complacent with his role, he did so many mistakes and he still played every game.

I dislike that old fuck from the other part of town, but he started to use Lindegaard instead of De Gay, and now that fucker had a good second part of the season, no more shitty performances.

Maybe this is what Joey needs, even though Lemmons is a ticking bomb.


FIrst of all, how is his friendship with players from United affecting him in a negative way? Second of all, problems with Bobby? Sorry but I've missed that. Do you have a link or something of the sort? Honest question, I must've missed something. But in all honesty, how the hell do you connect whatever problems he might have on-field with these factors?

De Gea made worse mistakes than Hart has done this season, which might have had something to do with him being replaced, rather than just mind games.

I don't think anyone would disagree that this season Hart has made more mistakes than the last one but it hasn't been shit and it deffo hasn't been anything close to De Gea's first season in the PL. Now he really had problems with crosses and corners, just like the Joe Hart of the old days.

I hope Mancini judges Hart on more than who his friends are.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -team.html

This is one, it was a video too, can't find it right now though. They had a burst up after the game in Madrid and again after the game with filth.

De Gea was shite in his first season, but now looks ok after he spent some games on the bench. Maybe this can bring Joe back to his normal way, a thew moments off the field


So you are saying that Joe Hart and Mancini are having issues based on that they had a spat after the Real Madrid game?


That is where it all started, Bobby and Hart had some post games interviews this season that looked off. Maybe they have, maybe they don't.

Something is wrong, that is the problem.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby MilnersJaw » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:20 pm

He shouldn't be sucking rag cok though, it's almost like he wants to play for them.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:33 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:He shouldn't be sucking rag cok though, it's almost like he wants to play for them.


If my boss was constantly telling everyone who'd listen that I was shit at my job, I'd probably consider joining the opposition, too.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:34 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Hart is having some issues, and all this started from the QPR game from last season. I am not the type of person to critisize players just for the fun of it, but i am not blind to see that his isn't Joey anymore. His problems with Bobby, his friendship with the rags and so on.

I am considering Hart having the same problems he had before going to B"gham because his reactions are late and started to have the habit to conceid at the opponent first shot, like he did.

I am not saying he isn't class, i am saying he is complacent with his role, he did so many mistakes and he still played every game.

I dislike that old fuck from the other part of town, but he started to use Lindegaard instead of De Gay, and now that fucker had a good second part of the season, no more shitty performances.

Maybe this is what Joey needs, even though Lemmons is a ticking bomb.


FIrst of all, how is his friendship with players from United affecting him in a negative way? Second of all, problems with Bobby? Sorry but I've missed that. Do you have a link or something of the sort? Honest question, I must've missed something. But in all honesty, how the hell do you connect whatever problems he might have on-field with these factors?

De Gea made worse mistakes than Hart has done this season, which might have had something to do with him being replaced, rather than just mind games.

I don't think anyone would disagree that this season Hart has made more mistakes than the last one but it hasn't been shit and it deffo hasn't been anything close to De Gea's first season in the PL. Now he really had problems with crosses and corners, just like the Joe Hart of the old days.

I hope Mancini judges Hart on more than who his friends are.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -team.html

This is one, it was a video too, can't find it right now though. They had a burst up after the game in Madrid and again after the game with filth.

De Gea was shite in his first season, but now looks ok after he spent some games on the bench. Maybe this can bring Joe back to his normal way, a thew moments off the field


So you are saying that Joe Hart and Mancini are having issues based on that they had a spat after the Real Madrid game?



If Joe fell out with the manager he would be on the bench .
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:10 pm

World class player who's failed to perform to his ability this season. Pretty much sums up our season.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:40 pm

PeterParker wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Hart is having some issues, and all this started from the QPR game from last season. I am not the type of person to critisize players just for the fun of it, but i am not blind to see that his isn't Joey anymore. His problems with Bobby, his friendship with the rags and so on.

I am considering Hart having the same problems he had before going to B"gham because his reactions are late and started to have the habit to conceid at the opponent first shot, like he did.

I am not saying he isn't class, i am saying he is complacent with his role, he did so many mistakes and he still played every game.

I dislike that old fuck from the other part of town, but he started to use Lindegaard instead of De Gay, and now that fucker had a good second part of the season, no more shitty performances.

Maybe this is what Joey needs, even though Lemmons is a ticking bomb.


FIrst of all, how is his friendship with players from United affecting him in a negative way? Second of all, problems with Bobby? Sorry but I've missed that. Do you have a link or something of the sort? Honest question, I must've missed something. But in all honesty, how the hell do you connect whatever problems he might have on-field with these factors?

De Gea made worse mistakes than Hart has done this season, which might have had something to do with him being replaced, rather than just mind games.

I don't think anyone would disagree that this season Hart has made more mistakes than the last one but it hasn't been shit and it deffo hasn't been anything close to De Gea's first season in the PL. Now he really had problems with crosses and corners, just like the Joe Hart of the old days.

I hope Mancini judges Hart on more than who his friends are.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -team.html

This is one, it was a video too, can't find it right now though. They had a burst up after the game in Madrid and again after the game with filth.

De Gea was shite in his first season, but now looks ok after he spent some games on the bench. Maybe this can bring Joe back to his normal way, a thew moments off the field


So you are saying that Joe Hart and Mancini are having issues based on that they had a spat after the Real Madrid game?


That is where it all started, Bobby and Hart had some post games interviews this season that looked off. Maybe they have, maybe they don't.

Something is wrong, that is the problem.


Fair enough, we all have the right to have hunches.

I see where you're coming from mate but I just don't agree that he's been that bad. Saveswise that is. Distributionwise he need to start from the basics. Do a bit of keepie up-exercises or something. At times it's really bad considering how good he is otherwise... AND, the days of the goalie with poor (ish) ball control are over.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby dazby » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:49 pm

I would like to see Panty melons given a couple of league games to warm him up for the final. It'd be good for him.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby PeterParker » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:55 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
Fair enough, we all have the right to have hunches.

I see where you're coming from mate but I just don't agree that he's been that bad. Saveswise that is. Distributionwise he need to start from the basics. Do a bit of keepie up-exercises or something. At times it's really bad considering how good he is otherwise... AND, the days of the goalie with poor (ish) ball control are over.


Dunno mate, he looks like he lost his marbels. Of course, some players looked more horrible than Joey, but this reflects more obvious at a keeper.

When he makes big mistakes, everyone will notice.
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:48 pm

PeterParker wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
Fair enough, we all have the right to have hunches.

I see where you're coming from mate but I just don't agree that he's been that bad. Saveswise that is. Distributionwise he need to start from the basics. Do a bit of keepie up-exercises or something. At times it's really bad considering how good he is otherwise... AND, the days of the goalie with poor (ish) ball control are over.


Dunno mate, he looks like he lost his marbels. Of course, some players looked more horrible than Joey, but this reflects more obvious at a keeper.

When he makes big mistakes, everyone will notice.


Perhaps it could also read in this way: "when a goalkeeper makes mistakes, everyone notices and they seem like big mistakes but they really aren't"?
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Re: Hart - in or out?

Postby zabbadabbado » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:15 pm

Needs to up his game next season.

Does not have much to do between the sticks for us.But still manages to produce clangers in a lot of high profile games,that have cost us.Shite on his near post,shite at dealing with set pieces and corners.And his kicking is dreadful.Has redeemed himself with some good saves in matches though.

If i am being brutally honest i don't think he has been worthy of his place for a while.But Roberto Mancini is weary of dropping England's first choice and the media shit storm that will follow,lets face it they don't need an excuse to get the knives out for our manager.

Sitting out Wembley will hurt.But Pants deserves his place.
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