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JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

I wonder if they can get Cook involved...

as a person from Baltimore, I absolutely HATE that we are partnering with the New York Yankees. I believe i'm experiencing an existential crisis right now and i'm really going to have trouble coming to terms with this on many levels.

That being said, there probably isn't a more powerful sporting partner that we could choose in the US market. And the fears that Jaime is talking about with moving, absolutely will not happen with the Yankees as part owner and a dedicated stadium in queens. The Yankees are the evil empire, but they've never moved and never will

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

But arn't the Yankees the most successful team in Baseball history... with a large established fan base.

I think I see city's angle on bringing them on board as a shareholder.. Fans, fans, fans = Mo Money money money to us.

Tbh I don't care if NYCFC is hated in the USA as long as MANCHESTER City reap all benefits from their existence.

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

His argument is based totally on his hatred of the Yankees (which I can't blame him for) ... but instability and lack of support isn't something they suffer from. Also the immigrant population of New York are much more ardent sports fans than any lazy asses on the west coast.

Being part owners, you can bet that the Yankees will be plastering the city and running crossover campaigns with their baseball players to support the team. It's about the best place and partner we could have for a franchise in MLS.

Why the fuck couldn't they do this with the Mets instead of the fucking yankees.

Blue Blood wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

But arn't the Yankees the most successful team in Baseball history... with a large established fan base.

I think I see city's angle on bringing them on board as a shareholder.. Fans, fans, fans = Mo Money money money to us.

Tbh I don't care if NYCFC is hated in the USA as long as MANCHESTER City reap all benefits from their existence.

The Yankees are the most hated team in the country ... they're also the most popular, richest, and most well supported team.

Don't listen to Jamie, he is talking total bullocks. (but I definitely hate the yankees with a burning passion that threatens to boil over at any minute) Business wise, this is the absolute best thing city could have done.

kinkylola wrote:

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

His argument is based totally on his hatred of the Yankees (which I can't blame him for) ... but instability and lack of support isn't something they suffer from. Also the immigrant population of New York are much more ardent sports fans than any lazy asses on the west coast.

Being part owners, you can bet that the Yankees will be plastering the city and running crossover campaigns with their baseball players to support the team. It's about the best place and partner we could have for a franchise in MLS.

Well that's what I thought too.

Will their shirt look better than ours, as I might get that one instead?

razor400 wrote:Why the fuck couldn't they do this with the Mets instead of the fucking yankees.

Since you already know about the Mets ... you already know the answer to that question.

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

Ding ding ding. Jamie i hate the Yankees but you're way off base here. Coupled with the fact that the NY Red Bulls don't even play in NYC and there will already be a built in fan base.

So let's speculate on who the marquee player will be there in 2015 - Gareth Barry?

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

New Yorkers were already complaining about this when it was a rumor. I had quite a few discussions with supporters in New York. I didn't think City would be involved and would be our owner that purchased the 20th expansion slot. Out of about 5 or 6 different scenarios for NY2 City being involved was no one in New York wanted.

Love it. I'm a Yankees fan of sorts. Been to see them 5 times in recent years and follow Baseball closely.

BmoreBlue wrote:

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

Ding ding ding. Jamie i hate the Yankees but you're way off base here. Coupled with the fact that the NY Red Bulls don't even play in NYC and there will already be a built in fan base.

Like the Giants and Jets? There's a fan base their NY2 but talking with the support groups this is the one they didn't want.

I have a total non interest in this to be honest, any revenue the proper City make from this will be a risible amount (if any) ... franchise, soccer ... fuck-off, I support Manchester City Football Club and thats it and I'll be fuming if I start getting emails trying to sell this to me, with extra loyalty points. Expect NYCFC merchandising in our local CityStores any time soon .. what a load of bollox

Can't support this team because of the yanks. We're braves country down here. Disgusting.

JamieMCFC wrote:

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

New Yorkers were already complaining about this when it was a rumor. I had quite a few discussions with supporters in New York. I didn't think City would be involved and would be our owner that purchased the 20th expansion slot. Out of about 5 or 6 different scenarios for NY2 City being involved was no one in New York wanted.

5 or 6 people = everyone in NY ... well, everyone can pack up and go home, Jamie has already canvassed the market ... we're dead in the water.

wonder that city didn't hire him for market research from the get-go.

JamieMCFC wrote:

BmoreBlue wrote:

craigmcfc wrote:

JamieMCFC wrote:This is not good. I have a fear that this team is not going to be welled supported. There was a backlash when Chivas launched a second team in L.A. They don't get very much support and there has been constant talk of moving the team and rebranding. I think the same thing could happen with NYCFC add in that the Yankees are part owners. They are known as the Evil Empire over here. They are the most hated team in the country. They are the baseball version of the rags.

Would the flip-side of that argument not be that there are hundreds of thousands of Yankees fans and many would want to support the new co-owned team?

Ding ding ding. Jamie i hate the Yankees but you're way off base here. Coupled with the fact that the NY Red Bulls don't even play in NYC and there will already be a built in fan base.

Like the Giants and Jets? There's a fan base their NY2 but talking with the support groups this is the one they didn't want.

right, like the giants and jets. neither team play in NYC, so not even close to the same argument. NYCFC is going to be branded as NYC's team, while the Red Bulls will be left with scraps. plus with the backing of the Yankees, whether we like it or not, is going to only help that branding. who are these "support groups" that don't want NYCFC? Alcoholics Anonymous?

JamieMCFC wrote:
There is more that can go wrong with this than good.

jamie , Have you lived in New York ?

The location is most important, not Manhattan , but where the real interested parties are in brooklyn, queens, the Bronx.

The web site , even in spanish.

They are waiting on the go ahead for a purpose built stadium in Queens, a perfect location equi distant for all 8 mill new yorkers. although the catchment area is double that pop at least .

Carl is quite right this is excellent news.

no more driving to the swamps of jersey ( except to see Bruce !)

Dameerto wrote:I wonder if they can get Cook involved...

and Beckham maybe