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Re: Negredo

Postby BmoreBlue » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:28 pm

phips wrote:shouldve had 3 in 3. his movement looks great and he's very strong and mauls defenders.


and those 3 have come in about 75 total minutes on the pitch if i remember correctly.
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Re: Negredo

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Re: Negredo

Postby zuricity » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:05 pm

BmoreBlue wrote:
and those 3 have come in about 75 total minutes on the pitch if i remember correctly.


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Re: Negredo

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:11 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
ashton287 wrote:
Wooders wrote:Will be starting the next match


Yeah but unfortunately it will be alongside aguero when its should be dzeko.

The two of them have both earned starts where as aguero is coasting.


Aguero's working hard, it's just not happening for him. Dzeko was lazy today as well as against Cardiff.

Aguero is not getting the ball out his feet quick enough and trying to it all himself too often. Last week against Cardiff, about 3 times he had the ball just outside their area and had he looked up he would have seen the easy pass to play someone in for a far easier chance. Instead he tried to do it all himself, ran himself into blind alleys and ended up messing up the shot.
It's the exact opposite problem that Silva has.
He just doesn't look sharp so far. With the exception of his goal v Newcastle.



Negredo is the kind of player I have wanted to see at City, since Hughes bought injured Rocky.

Dzeko is tall & will score goals but is a ponce & doesn't always link play properly. Aguero is strong but a shortarse & greedy. Negredo is big unit, works hard, is hard, links play & scores goals. I love centre forwards & this is the first one we've had for years. Would like to see Guidetti, when/if fit, get a chance to play with Negredo, as Guidetti is like a smaller version.

Re Silva & Aguero:

They are fairly shite most of the time these days imo, even when they score or assist. But they were last season too. Both could suddenly hit the heights again at any moment though & be amongst the world's best..

Silva was constantly making wrong decisions & try stupid 30/70 passes today, yet suddenly he found a ball & Negredo was through (only to miss). Aguero however was just fucking about on the ball most of the time & effectively defending on behalf of Hull.

Whatever happens this season results wise, both these two should be monitored honestly, legends or not. If they are as ineffective as last season, then alternatives should be considered for next season. Genuine top players rarely have two mediocre seasons in a row & if they are the real deal, they will perform at a good level this season.
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Re: Negredo

Postby failsworthblue » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:14 pm

Like the look of him , particular how he ghosted between two defenders today for his goal and has a real appetite.

Will get a bag full.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Original Dub » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:32 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Negredo is the kind of player I have wanted to see at City, since Hughes bought injured Rocky.

Dzeko is tall & will score goals but is a ponce & doesn't always link play properly. Aguero is strong but a shortarse & greedy. Negredo is big unit, works hard, is hard, links play & scores goals. I love centre forwards & this is the first one we've had for years. Would like to see Guidetti, when/if fit, get a chance to play with Negredo, as Guidetti is like a smaller version.

Re Silva & Aguero:

They are fairly shite most of the time these days imo, even when they score or assist. But they were last season too. Both could suddenly hit the heights again at any moment though & be amongst the world's best..

Silva was constantly making wrong decisions & try stupid 30/70 passes today, yet suddenly he found a ball & Negredo was through (only to miss). Aguero however was just fucking about on the ball most of the time & effectively defending on behalf of Hull.

Whatever happens this season results wise, both these two should be monitored honestly, legends or not. If they are as ineffective as last season, then alternatives should be considered for next season. Genuine top players rarely have two mediocre seasons in a row & if they are the real deal, they will perform at a good level this season.


Pretty cutting but can't disagree re aguero and silva
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Re: Negredo

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
ashton287 wrote:
Wooders wrote:Will be starting the next match


Yeah but unfortunately it will be alongside aguero when its should be dzeko.

The two of them have both earned starts where as aguero is coasting.


Aguero's working hard, it's just not happening for him. Dzeko was lazy today as well as against Cardiff.

Aguero is not getting the ball out his feet quick enough and trying to it all himself too often. Last week against Cardiff, about 3 times he had the ball just outside their area and had he looked up he would have seen the easy pass to play someone in for a far easier chance. Instead he tried to do it all himself, ran himself into blind alleys and ended up messing up the shot.
It's the exact opposite problem that Silva has.
He just doesn't look sharp so far. With the exception of his goal v Newcastle.



Negredo is the kind of player I have wanted to see at City, since Hughes bought injured Rocky.

Dzeko is tall & will score goals but is a ponce & doesn't always link play properly. Aguero is strong but a shortarse & greedy. Negredo is big unit, works hard, is hard, links play & scores goals. I love centre forwards & this is the first one we've had for years. Would like to see Guidetti, when/if fit, get a chance to play with Negredo, as Guidetti is like a smaller version.

Re Silva & Aguero:

They are fairly shite most of the time these days imo, even when they score or assist. But they were last season too. Both could suddenly hit the heights again at any moment though & be amongst the world's best..

Silva was constantly making wrong decisions & try stupid 30/70 passes today, yet suddenly he found a ball & Negredo was through (only to miss). Aguero however was just fucking about on the ball most of the time & effectively defending on behalf of Hull.

Whatever happens this season results wise, both these two should be monitored honestly, legends or not. If they are as ineffective as last season, then alternatives should be considered for next season. Genuine top players rarely have two mediocre seasons in a row & if they are the real deal, they will perform at a good level this season.

Problem is they're not judged honestly and both seem undroppable no matter how poorly they play.
The amount of times this season that Silva has the ball about 18-25 yards out, and he makes a yard of space and I'm screaming 'SHOOT, PUT YOUR FOOT THROUGH IT' but instead, he stops, hesitates and then tried an eye of the needle pass to a teammate who has his back to goal and is being marked by 3 defenders. And it doesn't come off 95% of the time. Dzeko last week against Cardiff showed the value of having a pop from distance when you can't break teams down. It could go in, it could take a deflection, keeper could parry it etc. But he's so reluctant to try it.
Aguero as I've said just tries to do everything himself and looks like he's playing more for himself than the team tbh.
Maybe if they were dropped it would give them the kick up the arse they both deserve.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Spurge » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:37 pm

ashton287 wrote:
Wooders wrote:Will be starting the next match


Yeah but unfortunately it will be alongside aguero when its should be dzeko.

The two of them have both earned starts where as aguero is coasting.


He may not be match fit but is certainly not coasting - not in his nature.

I said un the pre match thread Negredo had earnt a start. His goals to minutes played for us since the start of the season must be excellent and I'm including the goal he got in the Newcastle game which we all know should have stood.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Herb » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:31 pm

Negredo was good today - he works hard, creates space, challenges, in fact does all the things a forward should do.
I get a sneaky feeling that he might prove to be the bargain buy of the recent intake.
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Re: Negredo

Postby phips » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:00 pm

Wooders wrote:Will be starting the next match

against Stoke he definitely should be. his strength will be an asset vs the Stoke defense
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Re: Negredo

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:05 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
ashton287 wrote:
Wooders wrote:Will be starting the next match


Yeah but unfortunately it will be alongside aguero when its should be dzeko.

The two of them have both earned starts where as aguero is coasting.


Aguero's working hard, it's just not happening for him. Dzeko was lazy today as well as against Cardiff.

Aguero is not getting the ball out his feet quick enough and trying to it all himself too often. Last week against Cardiff, about 3 times he had the ball just outside their area and had he looked up he would have seen the easy pass to play someone in for a far easier chance. Instead he tried to do it all himself, ran himself into blind alleys and ended up messing up the shot.
It's the exact opposite problem that Silva has.
He just doesn't look sharp so far. With the exception of his goal v Newcastle.



Negredo is the kind of player I have wanted to see at City, since Hughes bought injured Rocky.

Dzeko is tall & will score goals but is a ponce & doesn't always link play properly. Aguero is strong but a shortarse & greedy. Negredo is big unit, works hard, is hard, links play & scores goals. I love centre forwards & this is the first one we've had for years. Would like to see Guidetti, when/if fit, get a chance to play with Negredo, as Guidetti is like a smaller version.

Re Silva & Aguero:

They are fairly shite most of the time these days imo, even when they score or assist. But they were last season too. Both could suddenly hit the heights again at any moment though & be amongst the world's best..

Silva was constantly making wrong decisions & try stupid 30/70 passes today, yet suddenly he found a ball & Negredo was through (only to miss). Aguero however was just fucking about on the ball most of the time & effectively defending on behalf of Hull.

Whatever happens this season results wise, both these two should be monitored honestly, legends or not. If they are as ineffective as last season, then alternatives should be considered for next season. Genuine top players rarely have two mediocre seasons in a row & if they are the real deal, they will perform at a good level this season.


Agreed 100% Ted.

BRF, I've no problem criticising anyone if I feel they deserve it. Silva and Aguero are currently nowhere near their level but as ever they're working hard to get it right. With Dzeko, who I think is a fantastic talent, the desire isn't always there or at least it doesn't appear to be, he drifts in and out too much for my liking.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Biamp » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:25 pm

He really earned the rights to start next game away to Stoke. Aguero did nothing during the game, and somehow he wasn't substituted earlier; keeping in mind we had Jovetic on the bench.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Risby » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:35 pm

Against Stoke, you need your toughest team. Negrado is tougher than our other strikers, but I also think we will need Aguero or Jovetic (not Dzeko) along side him as the Stoke the defence a big and strong meaning aerial balls will be pointless most of the time.

I think the stoke game would be a perfect time to play 4-3-3 with three sitting ready to pounce forward when need be and three constantly attacking putting pressure on their back line.

Fernadihno, Yaya, Rodders
Silva, Negrado, Aguero

Or something like that.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:10 pm

Negredo deserves a start, probably in place of Dzeko on his last two performances.

And on the strength of Aguero's last 3, Jovetic deserves a start, too
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Re: Negredo

Postby CTID Hants » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:26 pm

Risby wrote:Against Stoke, you need your toughest team. Negrado is tougher than our other strikers, but I also think we will need Aguero or Jovetic (not Dzeko) along side him as the Stoke the defence a big and strong meaning aerial balls will be pointless most of the time.

I think the stoke game would be a perfect time to play 4-3-3 with three sitting ready to pounce forward when need be and three constantly attacking putting pressure on their back line.

Fernadihno, Yaya, Rodders
Silva, Negrado, Aguero

Or something like that.


I see where you are coming from but, to play that you have to have a solid DM, which, unless Barry is staying, we just don't have? Unless you think Rodwell can do it properly?
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Re: Negredo

Postby Michael Brookes » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:38 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Negredo is the kind of player I have wanted to see at City, since Hughes bought injured Rocky.

Dzeko is tall & will score goals but is a ponce & doesn't always link play properly. Aguero is strong but a shortarse & greedy. Negredo is big unit, works hard, is hard, links play & scores goals. I love centre forwards & this is the first one we've had for years. Would like to see Guidetti, when/if fit, get a chance to play with Negredo, as Guidetti is like a smaller version.

Re Silva & Aguero:

They are fairly shite most of the time these days imo, even when they score or assist. But they were last season too. Both could suddenly hit the heights again at any moment though & be amongst the world's best..

Silva was constantly making wrong decisions & try stupid 30/70 passes today, yet suddenly he found a ball & Negredo was through (only to miss). Aguero however was just fucking about on the ball most of the time & effectively defending on behalf of Hull.

Whatever happens this season results wise, both these two should be monitored honestly, legends or not. If they are as ineffective as last season, then alternatives should be considered for next season. Genuine top players rarely have two mediocre seasons in a row & if they are the real deal, they will perform at a good level this season.


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Re: Negredo

Postby Bluedj » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:22 am

Reminds me of Uve Rosler.....with a Spanish accent.....I think this guy will have a big impact on our season
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Re: Negredo

Postby ant london » Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:00 am

I like him a lot....fucking great workrate and always seems to be in the right place when the ball comes in something which (for all of their qualities) neither Edin nor Sergio (nor Carlos nor Mario for that matter) seem to be able to do constantly.

The sooner we get Zabba and Jesus properly understanding how they need to play together the more fodder Neggers is going to have to feast on.

For what it's worth...even though he's been not on his best form and has been guilty of overelaborting things...Silva has played some delicious high balls into the box over these last few games. Not really seen this from him too much in past seasons probably as it was a waste of time as there was going to be no-one on the end of it but now we have Negronkey it's a new string to our bow.

Lots of work in progress and some worrying elements to NewCity v.3 but there are also some real new positives - let that not get lost amongst the angst
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Re: Negredo

Postby Risby » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:49 am

Risby wrote:Against Stoke, you need your toughest team. Negrado is tougher than our other strikers, but I also think we will need Aguero or Jovetic (not Dzeko) along side him as the Stoke the defence a big and strong meaning aerial balls will be pointless most of the time.

I think the stoke game would be a perfect time to play 4-3-3 with three sitting ready to pounce forward when need be and three constantly attacking putting pressure on their back line.

Fernadihno, Yaya, Rodders
Silva, Negrado, Aguero

Or something like that.


CTID Hants wrote:
I see where you are coming from but, to play that you have to have a solid DM, which, unless Barry is staying, we just don't have? Unless you think Rodwell can do it properly?


All three have brilliant qualities going forward, but I would be tempted to say to Rodders and Fernadihno, hold back ready for the counter (unless all 11 of their players are in their own box) and let Yaya join up more frequently with the top 3.

At times Yaya will need to hold because Rodders or Fernadihno will be in better positions to go forward. That is our worry. Can Yaya cover defensively and do a good job.

The three of them need to be a fluid three where they learn when to go and when to hold. That's no secret and we all desire this, but this will only come through playing together and learning the systems. They have the talent, now it needs to be put on the pitch.
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Re: Negredo

Postby Tim777 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:28 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:Negredo deserves a start, probably in place of Dzeko on his last two performances.

And on the strength of Aguero's last 3, Jovetic deserves a start, too


I'm convinced that Pellegrini strategically/deceptively gave Aguero & Dzeko more starts before the close of window, firstly because he dreaded the possibility of them wanting a transfer out, and secondly to gauge how often to start them after the window - yes, he will definitely start Negredo for Stoke after what he's seen. He's likely to give a regular start to the forward who has been producing results, and to rotate the other three, although I see the "regular" changing several times before May.
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