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Re: Vince.

Postby gmercer1 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:59 pm

Beeks wrote:Is there a better centre back in the world today?


Apart from Johny Evans, Chris Smalling and Phil Jones I'd say no!
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Re: Vince.

Postby Beeks » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:02 pm

Sometimes I genuinely wonder what he would have been like had he stayed in Midfield
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Re: Vince.

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:17 pm

brite blu sky wrote:It isn't just that Vinnie does the defending job supremely or doing all the organising and captaining, he has been working on that
pre-emptive stuff and his delivery out.
He spent a whole season trying and not getting the release ball right.. often just giving it right back to the oppo. But he has sorted it some now and THAT is what is making him not just a quality CB but a demon.
In the Plzen game he got a ball straight to Aguero that led to the first goal and changing of the game.
Yesterday Vinnie did it twice, the second one where he took his time did a mini step over in front of Fellatio and slotted it in front of Navas to run onto.. chased upfield and drew the rags defence to the near post and Nasri scored.

If Vinnie reads where he can dart in and win the ball, then he has the ball and has obviously to do something with it... and instead of just looking to pass it on to Yaya or a mid, he has been looking to set off an attack and he is starting to get it right.
Intercepting like he does leaves the oppo so flat footed it is almost criminal, his heritage as a midfielder allows him to not to panic once he has the ball.

Vinnie is a new breed of CB. If he can teach Nastasic to do similar then City will have turned the core of the defence into an attacking threat!
Cue other prem teams looking to train mids to be CBs. It could start a trend and tried to be copied.


Hummels is the same type of player though, although he might not be as good defensively as Vinny, so there is definitely a general development going on at several places at the mo. I'd say Hummels is even more important for setting up Dortmund's chances than Vinny is.
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Re: Vince.

Postby brite blu sky » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:39 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:It isn't just that Vinnie does the defending job supremely or doing all the organising and captaining, he has been working on that
pre-emptive stuff and his delivery out.
He spent a whole season trying and not getting the release ball right.. often just giving it right back to the oppo. But he has sorted it some now and THAT is what is making him not just a quality CB but a demon.
In the Plzen game he got a ball straight to Aguero that led to the first goal and changing of the game.
Yesterday Vinnie did it twice, the second one where he took his time did a mini step over in front of Fellatio and slotted it in front of Navas to run onto.. chased upfield and drew the rags defence to the near post and Nasri scored.

If Vinnie reads where he can dart in and win the ball, then he has the ball and has obviously to do something with it... and instead of just looking to pass it on to Yaya or a mid, he has been looking to set off an attack and he is starting to get it right.
Intercepting like he does leaves the oppo so flat footed it is almost criminal, his heritage as a midfielder allows him to not to panic once he has the ball.

Vinnie is a new breed of CB. If he can teach Nastasic to do similar then City will have turned the core of the defence into an attacking threat!
Cue other prem teams looking to train mids to be CBs. It could start a trend and tried to be copied.


Hummels is the same type of player though, although he might not be as good defensively as Vinny, so there is definitely a general development going on at several places at the mo. I'd say Hummels is even more important for setting up Dortmund's chances than Vinny is.


Good shout but Hummer isn't in the prem, there are others around europe too. In fact there have always been these kind of CBs but perhaps not quite at the level of ball player of modern times... but that's precisely why it is new breed territory. The prem if anything as usual is behind in advances that rely on players technical ability or flair. An english CB is supposed to down 6 pints at half time.
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Re: Vince.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:05 pm

gmercer1 wrote:Yeah we changed Vinnie from CM to CD............now for Garcia!!! ;/////


I'll be happy if we can train Garcia to warm the bench. If we can get him to warm someone else's bench, even better
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Re: Vince.

Postby gmercer1 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:36 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
gmercer1 wrote:Yeah we changed Vinnie from CM to CD............now for Garcia!!! ;/////


I'll be happy if we can train Garcia to warm the bench. If we can get him to warm someone else's bench, even better


If he needs to go for a medical at another club I'll drive him there no problem!
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Re: Vince.

Postby s1ty m » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm

Beeks wrote:Is there a better centre back in the world today?


No.
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Re: Vince.

Postby Breks » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:36 pm

He is the best cb i have seen at City. We are witnessing some of the greatest players to play for City.
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Re: Vince.

Postby Risby » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:38 pm

Breks wrote:He is the best cb i have seen at City. We are witnessing some of the greatest players to play for City.


Seeing as my first game when I was 7 was in 1989, I'd say you are right.

I was always a fan of White, Quinn, etc, but now, it's not one or two players in the team that are your favourites, you can choose 6,7,8 of them and sometimes they can be on the bench!

The present is such a joy to be involved in and can only provide a greater taste for the future.
Sit back, support the team and enjoy the ride.
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