The dummy walk & the rattling bar

[michaelcityfan]

He is a very classy player I cant believe our luck that we have him. His dummy was superb lots more to come from him I think. CTID

Also on another point my mate put a mock up video cover called "only moyes and arseholes" episode in deep shit, its on facebook so i cant show you, but its great to see the rags ridiculed.

[MilnersJaw]

I've only seen dzeko work his arse off once in his entire city career. That was against Newcastle first game. Neggers for me over dzeko all day, he may miss sometimes but he makes up for it by grafting.

[Ted Hughes]

Two different players imo.

People expect Dzeko to be like Negredo because he's big, when in actual fact he's more of a sneaky player than a strength player & is a bit of a wuss sometimes but produces some fantastic moments. Negredo is a proper old school, scary centre forward, which we have needed for over a decade.

Both can play together imo because they are so different, but probably not against the very best teams, when we should have more men in midfield. Both are also great players to come off the bench.

[Herb]

I'm absolutely sold on Negredo (who must be the bargain buy of 2013) but I respect that Dzeko has it in him to put on outstanding performances and that he can make the difference in certain types of games / in certain circumstances.
I think that Pellers will understand where we get the most from Edin and use him accordingly so that we'll see Dzeko playing at his best to exploit the way the opposition set-up in games as appropriate.
The way that great manager's use players makes players look at their best because they're used where their attributes are most effective against certain opposition and / or in certain conditions etc. and that's why players like to play for great managers.

I'm thinking that we may not see Edin playing in every game but when we see him he'll be playing where his strengths get results.

[Bluedj]

I'm absolutely sold on Negredo (who must be the bargain buy of 2013) but I respect that Dzeko has it in him to put on outstanding performances and that he can make the difference in certain types of games / in certain circumstances. I think that Pellers will understand where we get the most from Edin and use him accordingly so that we'll see Dzeko playing at his best to exploit the way the opposition set-up in games as appropriate. The way that great manager's use players makes players look at their best because they're used where their attributes are most effective against certain opposition and / or in certain conditions etc. and that's why players like to play for great managers. I'm thinking that we may not see Edin playing in every game but when we see him he'll be playing where his strengths get results.

I agree with everything you say, my only concern is Edin's mind state and if/or he can step up to the plate when given the opportunity?

[Blue Since 76]

Two different players imo. People expect Dzeko to be like Negredo because he's big, when in actual fact he's more of a sneaky player than a strength player & is a bit of a wuss sometimes but produces some fantastic moments. Negredo is a proper old school, scary centre forward, which we have needed for over a decade. Both can play together imo because they are so different, but probably not against the very best teams, when we should have more men in midfield. Both are also great players to come off the bench.

They're very different, however, Mancini bought Dzeko to bring us something different up front to what we had. I still think he was after a Negredo type of player who could hold the ball up and allow us to be a bit direct.

I actually think Dzeko may struggle to get many games. He was given the chance at the start of the season and, Newcastle game apart, didn't put a lot of effort in. Pellegrini has nothing invested in him, so if he doesn't need him, it doesn't matter if he never plays again and the club sell him at a loss. That said, he may get the Newcastle game to avoid burn out of Negredo and Aguero.

[nottsblue]

Two different players imo.

People expect Dzeko to be like Negredo because he's big, when in actual fact he's more of a sneaky player than a strength player & is a bit of a wuss sometimes but produces some fantastic moments. Negredo is a proper old school, scary centre forward, which we have needed for over a decade.

Both can play together imo because they are so different, but probably not against the very best teams, when we should have more men in midfield. Both are also great players to come off the bench.

They're very different, however, Mancini bought Dzeko to bring us something different up front to what we had. I still think he was after a Negredo type of player who could hold the ball up and allow us to be a bit direct.

I actually think Dzeko may struggle to get many games. He was given the chance at the start of the season and, Newcastle game apart, didn't put a lot of effort in. Pellegrini has nothing invested in him, so if he doesn't need him, it doesn't matter if he never plays again and the club sell him at a loss. That said, he may get the Newcastle game to avoid burn out of Negredo and Aguero.

They are different players not least in the effort both players show. One appears to put lots of effort in and looks interested and one has the appearance of indifference.

Yes i am sure they can play together but suspect Negredo in particular will benefit more by playing with Aguero. Certainly against some teams at home we can really go for it & play all 3 but this will be a rarity.

It looks like Pellers has already set his stall out to play one or other and rotate. Teds comment they are both great types to come off bench is spot on as both bring something different to party. Neggers more of a traditional no9 causing problems & Edin is a great poacher sniffing out goals from nowhere. Both great attributes. Cant see us selling either player in January unless Messi becomes available!! Edins goals per minutes played is probably still right up there with the best of them

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I've not ever had any desire to see a battering ram up front so has never wanted that from dzeko.

What I want is the simple things. If on the pitch, present an option. If passed the ball, attempt to control it. If control eludes you, attempt to get it back.

Nothing too difficult an it doesn't matter who you are, from dzeko to Aguero to neggers, it's not a size thing it's an effort thing. Nobody at our club is lacking skills, what makes some stand out is that effort an desire.

[Ted Hughes]

I've not ever had any desire to see a battering ram up front so has never wanted that from dzeko.

What I want is the simple things. If on the pitch, present an option. If passed the ball, attempt to control it. If control eludes you, attempt to get it back.

Nothing too difficult an it doesn't matter who you are, from dzeko to Aguero to neggers, it's not a size thing it's an effort thing. Nobody at our club is lacking skills, what makes some stand out is that effort an desire.

Imo it is impossible to do what Negredo does unless you have physical size or bulk & there is a smartness to centre forward play which is different to being an out & out goalscorer. Sure, it requires effort, but it also requires intelligence, instinct & bravery.

Tevez can do a small bloke's version & I'm hoping Guidetti can do a medium size bloke's version, but Negredo presents a defence with an entirely different problem because of his power & strength, as did Drogba when he stayed on his feet. Dzeko is big & strong enough to do the same, but on the whole, he doesn't fancy it & should be looked upon as a goalscorer, not a cf .

We haven't had a genuine cf for years, as Santa Claus was always injured.

Negredo will make a big difference to City & could be effective for years to come, as he doesn't rely on pace.

[Blue Since 76]

I've not ever had any desire to see a battering ram up front so has never wanted that from dzeko. What I want is the simple things. If on the pitch, present an option. If passed the ball, attempt to control it. If control eludes you, attempt to get it back. Nothing too difficult an it doesn't matter who you are, from dzeko to Aguero to neggers, it's not a size thing it's an effort thing. Nobody at our club is lacking skills, what makes some stand out is that effort an desire.

Whilst I'd like to see Dzeko do all the things you suggest, there is often a need for a bit of brute force.

Against Bayern, we needed someone to hold the ball up. Aguero is very good at that, due to his strength and balance. Negredo is very good at that. Even Dzeko's mum would admit that's not his strong point. Dante bullied Dzeko for an hour. The first thing Negredo did was to go shoulder to shoulder and leave him on the floor.

At other times, when tika taka isn't working and we're on top, someone a bit more direct can work. With the amount of balls we put through, a Grant Holt would score goals, but if you have someone with the strength of a Holt (or Benteke or Lukaku), the desire of a Dickov and genuine Spanish ability, you can cause real problems. As said above, he could be our Drogba and may even be the key in Europe against a Barca etc when we're up against it and need an outlet who can affect them.

[littlebig]

I really like the looks of this fella. Nothing too flash, intelligent, unselfish. He looks like a solid 15 goals per season player which would obviously be great along with Aguero's 20+ and our midfielders chipping in with a few

[Nick]

i love negrado, agree with you all, growing to be my new fave player.

dzeko is still too inconsistently shit and lazy and it annoys me.

in other news, how gash was navas tonight?

[MilnersJaw]

i love negrado, agree with you all, growing to be my new fave player.

dzeko is still too inconsistently shit and lazy and it annoys me.

in other news, how gash was navas tonight?

I know. Surprised he wasn't crucified by the press.

[gmercer1]

i love negrado, agree with you all, growing to be my new fave player.

dzeko is still too inconsistently shit and lazy and it annoys me.

in other news, how gash was navas tonight?

I'm still not sure on Navas, hasn't lit it up like I thought he would. In my mind he was going to be the signing of the seaon, not looking that way now especialy with Negrado.
Love a player who gives it his all and Negrado fits the bill. Quality player.
Just hope Navas can step up now.

[SkyBlueSteve]

Feel bad for Dzeko, but Negrado is getting my attention for the right reasons; his work rate and strength is great and partnered with Aguero this season he looks good. i loved his dummy and even more so loved his chip inside the box for the second, amazing vision to get the ball to Sergio for the second goal. Loving him at the moment hope it keeps up

[Breks]

I'm really impressed with Negredo. Top signing. He is definitely in another class to dzeko.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

Also Negredo always looks like he is enjoying it, wherever scoring, making a pass or having a battle. Dzeko always looks the opposite.