Toon Talk - Again

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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby nottsblue » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:57 am

Original Dub wrote:
That's crazy.

You just watched us play three away games in a row with a trip to moscow in the middle and our captain missing all three... we came unstuck over one giant fuck up.

I have every confidence in this team.


Correct. We will piss it tonight. We've played good stuff over last 3 away games & will continue to do so.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:04 pm

I'm with Goaters on this, I don't have much confidence in us away from home. Yes we beat West Ham and CSKA but nearly fucked both up by letting them back in when they should've been dead and buried.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby nottsblue » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:10 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm with Goaters on this, I don't have much confidence in us away from home. Yes we beat West Ham and CSKA but nearly fucked both up by letting them back in when they should've been dead and buried.


But we still won. Away. On a cabbage patch in the artic for one of them and against a team that had just 3-0 at spuds in the other
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Original Dub » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:19 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm with Goaters on this, I don't have much confidence in us away from home. Yes we beat West Ham and CSKA but nearly fucked both up by letting them back in when they should've been dead and buried.


That happens in away matches mate.

You cruise at home and scrape away wins and the league is won.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby gillie » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:30 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm with Goaters on this, I don't have much confidence in us away from home. Yes we beat West Ham and CSKA but nearly fucked both up by letting them back in when they should've been dead and buried.


That happens in away matches mate.

You cruise at home and scrape away wins and the league is won.

Spot on Ronan me old mucker.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:31 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I'm with Goaters on this, I don't have much confidence in us away from home. Yes we beat West Ham and CSKA but nearly fucked both up by letting them back in when they should've been dead and buried.


That happens in away matches mate.

You cruise at home and scrape away wins and the league is won.


I know, it's just when the home team have their purple patch against us now I'm expecting them to score every time so the scraping becomes a lot more difficult.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby mcfc1632 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:50 pm

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:They really make our AlanBall era look like a well-run club. Local TV tonight reports three local papers have been banned from press conferences for over-reporting anti-Ashley demonstrations.



I found the letter sent to them - pretty much to the point. A lot of me admires Ashley for having the balls to do it - a bit of me thinks, especially in a city like Newcastle, care should be taken not to piss of the media who can poison the fans against you - but I bet he thinks - my money - my club - fuck 'em

Full text of the letter Newcastle United sent to the Chronicle

28 Oct 2013 14:20

This is the full text of the letter the Chronicle received by email from Newcastle United issuing a ban on our journalists' access to the club

The letter was received last week but, as editor Darren Thwaites explained in his statement earlier today, we chose to stay silent to ensure the story of our ban didn't disrupt the build-up to the vital derby game.

Dear Darren,

Regarding the following articles:

The Chronicle – “ Get out of Toon: Fans plan protest march in bid to oust Ashley ” (page 1 September 7)
The Chronicle – “ Toon campaign groups hoping to oust Ashley ” (pages 2 – 3, September 7)
The Chronicle – “ Fans hoping to replace Ashley ” (back page, September 7)
The Chronicle – “ Time for change – time for Newcastle fans to take charge of their own club ” (pages 50 – 51, September 7)
Sunday Sun – “ This weekend will prove how angry fans really are ” (pages 98 – 99, October 13)
The Journal – “‘ Lack of ambition’ sees fans take to the streets ” (page 12, October 19)
The Chronicle – “ March if you want him out ” (page 1, October 19)
The Chronicle - “ Anti-Ashley protesters set to take to the city’s streets ” (pages 2 - 3, October 19)
Sunday Sun – “ Hundreds join protest march as Kinnear outlines United’s position ” (page 96)
The Chronicle - “ Disgruntled fans hit out at Ashley ” (page 8, October 21)
The Journal – “ Fans are United in their opposition to Ashley ” (page 4, October 21)
ChronicleLive – “ Frustrated fans march Newcastle’s streets in Mike Ashley prote st” (October 21)

I write in reference to the above coverage in The Chronicle, The Journal and Sunday Sun regarding the protest march on Saturday 19 October by a small number of Newcastle United fans operating under the campaign name Time4Change.

It is quite frankly staggering that you devoted 15 full pages, including two front page splashes, a back page, three double-page spreads and a remarkable six full pages in one (September 7) in The Chronicle to a protest march which ultimately was attended by approximately 300 supporters. Even if the 1,000 supporters expected by the organisers had marched your coverage would have been disproportionate. Given the turnout was significantly less than this, in fact only just over a quarter of that anticipated, something your coverage following the march failed to reference or reflect whatsoever, you should be in no doubt as to the strength of feeling that exists within the club in relation to your coverage.

Indeed after reviewing all of the above articles, and in particular, the front page headline and a large map outlining the route of the march, spread over two pages in The Chronicle on 19 October it is our opinion there was an underlying message of encouragement and support provided by your titles in the lead-up to the day and on the day itself.

We feel strongly that the turnout at the march renders your extraordinary coverage completely disproportionate. Furthermore it is evident from the scale and prominence you devoted to it that your agenda was the pursuit of sales based on an anti-Newcastle United stance, rather than a fair and balanced approach.

We could never dream of generating this level of coverage, over such an extended time-frame, for some of our positive news such as some of the fantastic work undertaken by our Foundation in the local community which benefits so many or the recent announcement of reciprocal ticket pricing for away fans which received a fraction of the coverage of the march.

Having given due consideration to the above and your response to my email of Monday 21 October, the club’s owner, director of football, board of directors and team manager have reached a unanimous decision that the three NCJ Media titles, The Chronicle, The Journal and Sunday Sun, will not be permitted access to any media facilities, press conferences and player interviews at Newcastle United indefinitely and with immediate effect.

We do not require a reply to this letter, our position on this issue is not up for negotiation.

Yours sincerely,

Wendy Taylor

Head of Media, Newcastle United
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:51 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
That's crazy.

You just watched us play three away games in a row with a trip to moscow in the middle and our captain missing all three... we came unstuck over one giant fuck up.

I have every confidence in this team.


Correct. We will piss it tonight. We've played good stuff over last 3 away games & will continue to do so.


There has been nothing in our away performances to suggest anything you should have any confidence in any away game we play.

Mickey Mouse defeats at Cardiff and Villa, and an absolute giveaway on sunday - again - highlights our poor away form. We keep making the same mistakes. We got away with it in Moscow, and though it was a great result it doesn't hide the problems we are having. Stoke too was a drab showing at best. Plzen were junk, though at West Ham we did play well. At Chelsea we played well in the 2nd half, but should have been 2 or 3 down at h-t - not satisfied with that we decided on some pantomime defending a la Villa Park

As for us "pissing it" tonight, colour me sceptical on that. Will revisit this after 10pm but forgive lack of faith based on what Ive seen in our 7 away games so far.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Original Dub » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:30 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:
There has been nothing in our away performances to suggest anything you should have any confidence in any away game we play.

Mickey Mouse defeats at Cardiff and Villa, and an absolute giveaway on sunday - again - highlights our poor away form. We keep making the same mistakes. We got away with it in Moscow, and though it was a great result it doesn't hide the problems we are having. Stoke too was a drab showing at best. Plzen were junk, though at West Ham we did play well. At Chelsea we played well in the 2nd half, but should have been 2 or 3 down at h-t - not satisfied with that we decided on some pantomime defending a la Villa Park

As for us "pissing it" tonight, colour me sceptical on that. Will revisit this after 10pm but forgive lack of faith based on what Ive seen in our 7 away games so far.


No offense lee but that sounds like a journo wrote it.

The media made it out like we got away with it in moscow. I watched that match and THEY got away it. On a pitch only they are used to playing on. In fucking russia!

As for chelsea, you expect the home side to have three or four chances. If they had no chances I'd be amazed. The fact is we were the better side in our toughest prem fixture.

I'm not stupid - I can see that we are shooting ourselves in the foot. But these are now individual mistakes. Uncharacteristic individual mistakes.

Individuals can have an arm around them and they can be dropped.

But I love how we play as a team. And i'm confident in every match because of that.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby nottsblue » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:53 pm

Original Dub wrote:
No offense lee but that sounds like a journo wrote it.

The media made it out like we got away with it in moscow. I watched that match and THEY got away it. On a pitch only they are used to playing on. In fucking russia!

As for chelsea, you expect the home side to have three or four chances. If they had no chances I'd be amazed. The fact is we were the better side in our toughest prem fixture.

I'm not stupid - I can see that we are shooting ourselves in the foot. But these are now individual mistakes. Uncharacteristic individual mistakes.

Individuals can have an arm around them and they can be dropped.

But I love how we play as a team. And i'm confident in every match because of that.


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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:00 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
There has been nothing in our away performances to suggest anything you should have any confidence in any away game we play.

Mickey Mouse defeats at Cardiff and Villa, and an absolute giveaway on sunday - again - highlights our poor away form. We keep making the same mistakes. We got away with it in Moscow, and though it was a great result it doesn't hide the problems we are having. Stoke too was a drab showing at best. Plzen were junk, though at West Ham we did play well. At Chelsea we played well in the 2nd half, but should have been 2 or 3 down at h-t - not satisfied with that we decided on some pantomime defending a la Villa Park

As for us "pissing it" tonight, colour me sceptical on that. Will revisit this after 10pm but forgive lack of faith based on what Ive seen in our 7 away games so far.


No offense lee but that sounds like a journo wrote it.

The media made it out like we got away with it in moscow. I watched that match and THEY got away it. On a pitch only they are used to playing on. In fucking russia!

As for chelsea, you expect the home side to have three or four chances. If they had no chances I'd be amazed. The fact is we were the better side in our toughest prem fixture.

I'm not stupid - I can see that we are shooting ourselves in the foot. But these are now individual mistakes. Uncharacteristic individual mistakes.

Individuals can have an arm around them and they can be dropped.

But I love how we play as a team. And i'm confident in every match because of that.


We'll agree to disagree here Ronan. Like you I watched that match in Moscow and the goal they had chalked off, and Hart's last gasp save when Honda should have scored, means I will take a different view of who got away with what in that one.

At this stage of the season, and having dropped 11 points away from home already and being 6 off the pace in 7th spot, playing attractive football isn't my concern as its results and points we need desperately, lots of them, to at least stay in touch. We need to put a 10 game run together (9 wins and a draw minimum) or once again we will be left looking up as we did last season.

Yes we've played some nice stuff going forward, but defensively we've been atrocious and that's being kind. Having the ball all day but not winning doesn't float my boat Im afraid.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:01 pm

If we get through tonight then 5 of our next 6 are at home, so a good chance for a confidence building run.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby CuteMancs » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:46 pm

Not sure where to put this....

TEAM NEWS: Pantilimon, Richards, Boyata, Lescott, Kolarov, Rodwell, Garcia, Navas, Milner, Jovetic, Dzeko
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby nottsblue » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:48 pm

CuteMancs wrote:Not sure where to put this....

TEAM NEWS: Pantilimon, Richards, Boyata, Lescott, Kolarov, Rodwell, Garcia, Navas, Milner, Jovetic, Dzeko


Put that back 4 in the fuckin bin. Boyata & Micah together. The lads up front need to be on fire tonight
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Crossie » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:52 pm

The Count clearly couldn't give a fuck about this competition!
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby nottsblue » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:53 pm

At least Remy not playing but looks a decent Newcastle line up
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby s1ty m » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:02 pm

Joke selection. Garcia again. Congrats Pellegrini, football genius.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby mr_nool » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:05 pm

Nice to see Rodwell back. It will also be interesting to see what Jovetic can do.

On paper our players should be good enough to win, but I fear a bit for their attitude. This is so obviously a "b-team". It wouldn't surprise me if that feeling of not taking the competition serious seeps down to the players.
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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:06 pm

Atmosphere was building in Newcastle when I got back from the office at 5:30. Well, the police were hanging round the station....

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Re: Toon Talk - Again

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:06 pm

I was looking forward to this but I bet all those blues who have travelled to Newcastle will not be happy with that line up.

Why not nasri and negredo in there. Getbit done early doors.

Ffs at least the fans can have a good sing song..... DEDRYYYYYYYCK......
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