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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby john@staustell » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:52 pm

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... ke-on-loan

John Guidetti has joined Stoke City on loan until the end of the season.

The 21-year-old Swede has only made one appearance for the Blues so far but spent a successful spell on loan with Feyenoord during the 2011/12 campaign, scoring 20 goals in 23 games for the Eredivisie side.

Prio to that, Guidetti was on loan for a month at Burnley in late 2010.

Signed as a 16-year-old in 2007 by Sven-Goran Eriksson, Guidetti spent much of last season sidelined by injury problems, but the striker will now look to prove his worth at the Britannia Stadium where he joins former City midfielder Stephen Ireland and manager Mark Hughes.

He has agreed a deal with the Potters that will expire on 30 June, 2014. We will keep you informed of Guidetti's progress in our Loan Watch series.
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:02 pm

john@staustell wrote:http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... ke-on-loan

John Guidetti has joined Stoke City on loan until the end of the season.

The 21-year-old Swede has only made one appearance for the Blues so far but spent a successful spell on loan with Feyenoord during the 2011/12 campaign, scoring 20 goals in 23 games for the Eredivisie side.

Prio to that, Guidetti was on loan for a month at Burnley in late 2010.

Signed as a 16-year-old in 2007 by Sven-Goran Eriksson, Guidetti spent much of last season sidelined by injury problems, but the striker will now look to prove his worth at the Britannia Stadium where he joins former City midfielder Stephen Ireland and manager Mark Hughes.

He has agreed a deal with the Potters that will expire on 30 June, 2014. We will keep you informed of Guidetti's progress in our Loan Watch series.


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Good luck to the kid anyway. This is his chance to shine.
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:03 pm

john@staustell wrote:http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... ke-on-loan

John Guidetti has joined Stoke City on loan until the end of the season.

The 21-year-old Swede has only made one appearance for the Blues so far but spent a successful spell on loan with Feyenoord during the 2011/12 campaign, scoring 20 goals in 23 games for the Eredivisie side.

Prio to that, Guidetti was on loan for a month at Burnley in late 2010.

Signed as a 16-year-old in 2007 by Sven-Goran Eriksson, Guidetti spent much of last season sidelined by injury problems, but the striker will now look to prove his worth at the Britannia Stadium where he joins former City midfielder Stephen Ireland and manager Mark Hughes.

He has agreed a deal with the Potters that will expire on 30 June, 2014. We will keep you informed of Guidetti's progress in our Loan Watch series.


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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Herb » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:24 pm

This is great news as I've long wanted to see how he can perform in the premier league. I'd like to think that sparky will give him some chances so he should get some decent game time at stoke if he impresses.

Back with us next year as our 4th striker if he puts on a good showing or off to a club at his level if he isn't deemed to make the grade - at least he'll have some direction for his career whatever the outcome.

Good luck to the man and I hope to see him in blue again soon!
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby BmoreBlue » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:47 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
john@staustell wrote:http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... ke-on-loan

John Guidetti has joined Stoke City on loan until the end of the season.

The 21-year-old Swede has only made one appearance for the Blues so far but spent a successful spell on loan with Feyenoord during the 2011/12 campaign, scoring 20 goals in 23 games for the Eredivisie side.

Prio to that, Guidetti was on loan for a month at Burnley in late 2010.

Signed as a 16-year-old in 2007 by Sven-Goran Eriksson, Guidetti spent much of last season sidelined by injury problems, but the striker will now look to prove his worth at the Britannia Stadium where he joins former City midfielder Stephen Ireland and manager Mark Hughes.

He has agreed a deal with the Potters that will expire on 30 June, 2014. We will keep you informed of Guidetti's progress in our Loan Watch series.



16 in 2007 and 21 in 2014. Yer wot?

Good luck to the kid anyway. This is his chance to shine.


born 15 april 1992. purchased in summer 07 i believe, when he would've been 15, not 16. will turn 22 in a few months. hope that clears things up a bit.
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:51 pm

Let's hope he thrives like Joe at Birmingham
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:21 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bianchi on Ice wrote:Seeing Hughes half a mile away on the training ground with his arms folded is bound to inspire him


I would have thought Hughes is absolutley the perfect person for Guidetti to learn from. Similar strengths and weaknesses as a player, but nowhere near as good, yet.


This. But you know it's long since been anathema to say anything about Hughes which resembles objectivity. I happen to think he's doing an alright job at Stoke. They've had some good performances in the league coupled with a slight improvement on last year's league position. It's all about managers finding the right clubs. In hindsight, the City job was probably too big too soon for Hughes. He then went to Fulham, did a fine job, made a dick of himself and then left. QPR was a disaster but now he's doing pretty well at Stoke. Add in the jobs he did for Blackburn and Wales and he doesn't quite seem the joke of a manager that some people would have you believe. QPR was probably the ego-deflating reality check that he needed (unless he suddenly decides Stoke are beneath him, in which case I'll stand corrected). If he can pick up two players like Vinny and Zabba for them at a combined £12 million, we'll know that his speciality as a manager is improving lower-mid table teams.


I agree with you and to some extent think Hughes was a victim of circumstance at City. I was actually very happy with his appointment as he'd consistently got Blackburn inside the top 8 on a shoe string budget and he really had an eye for a bargain.
He signed for us and we all, before the season would have been relatively happy with top 8 imo. However, within hours almost, we were transformed into one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, our expectations rocketed. Added to the signing of Robinho, some media outlets were even suggesting us finishing in the top 4 that season.

He had to readjust almost immediately and suddenly had the whole world not only watching us but willing for us to slip up and were there ready to laugh at us when we did.
Then add that to the fact certain 'fans' refused to back him from day one simply because he played for Trafford.


Ultimately he wasn't good enough but still imo played an important part in our early transition and signed some great players. Zabaleta and Kompany are now two of our best players. Given was a good signing for us, Barry, Tevez, Lescott, Dejong and Bellamy also played a big part in our transition.

I think history will look back on him kinder than the majority of our fan base does.
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:30 pm

good luck to him
hopefully he'll bag winning goals vs chelsea and arsenal
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby ruralblue » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:37 pm

Pleased for the lad really. If he manages to stay fit and bangs them in for stoke then its all great experience in the prem for bringing him back into the fold. Would hope theres a recall clause in there somewhere as we don't fully know whats going on with jovetic.
Had he stayed and the Count played him to no success then it wouldnt have looked great for him or the Pellegrini. As someone mentions further up it could be simular situation to us loaning Hart out to Birmingham.

Jusf wish Torquay or Yeovil would come in for Garcia now ;-)
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:30 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bianchi on Ice wrote:Seeing Hughes half a mile away on the training ground with his arms folded is bound to inspire him


I would have thought Hughes is absolutley the perfect person for Guidetti to learn from. Similar strengths and weaknesses as a player, but nowhere near as good, yet.


This. But you know it's long since been anathema to say anything about Hughes which resembles objectivity. I happen to think he's doing an alright job at Stoke. They've had some good performances in the league coupled with a slight improvement on last year's league position. It's all about managers finding the right clubs. In hindsight, the City job was probably too big too soon for Hughes. He then went to Fulham, did a fine job, made a dick of himself and then left. QPR was a disaster but now he's doing pretty well at Stoke. Add in the jobs he did for Blackburn and Wales and he doesn't quite seem the joke of a manager that some people would have you believe. QPR was probably the ego-deflating reality check that he needed (unless he suddenly decides Stoke are beneath him, in which case I'll stand corrected). If he can pick up two players like Vinny and Zabba for them at a combined £12 million, we'll know that his speciality as a manager is improving lower-mid table teams.


I agree with you and to some extent think Hughes was a victim of circumstance at City. I was actually very happy with his appointment as he'd consistently got Blackburn inside the top 8 on a shoe string budget and he really had an eye for a bargain.
He signed for us and we all, before the season would have been relatively happy with top 8 imo. However, within hours almost, we were transformed into one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, our expectations rocketed. Added to the signing of Robinho, some media outlets were even suggesting us finishing in the top 4 that season.

He had to readjust almost immediately and suddenly had the whole world not only watching us but willing for us to slip up and were there ready to laugh at us when we did.
Then add that to the fact certain 'fans' refused to back him from day one simply because he played for Trafford.


Ultimately he wasn't good enough but still imo played an important part in our early transition and signed some great players. Zabaleta and Kompany are now two of our best players. Given was a good signing for us, Barry, Tevez, Lescott, Dejong and Bellamy also played a big part in our transition.

I think history will look back on him kinder than the majority of our fan base does.


He started amongst an absolute shambles, with a team who had finished a season on relegation form, people going round selling players behind his back & signing players for money laundering purposes, then was in the middle of a takeover & given unlimited funds to spend on players who didn't want to sign for us. He steadied the ship very nicely & built a great backbone for the team.

But the important fact here is not what he did at City, but the fact that he was similar in many ways ability wise to Guidetti, but had a lot more games. Guidetti has missed a lot of crucial time on the pitch, & Hughes is someone who can help him with a few tricks of the trade, which he has missed out on learning for himself. He can get a crash course in PL centre forward play.

One thing Hughes was as a player is a sly/clever bastard who knew how to get the best from his abilities.
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:41 pm

BmoreBlue wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
john@staustell wrote:http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... ke-on-loan

John Guidetti has joined Stoke City on loan until the end of the season.

The 21-year-old Swede has only made one appearance for the Blues so far but spent a successful spell on loan with Feyenoord during the 2011/12 campaign, scoring 20 goals in 23 games for the Eredivisie side.

Prio to that, Guidetti was on loan for a month at Burnley in late 2010.

Signed as a 16-year-old in 2007 by Sven-Goran Eriksson, Guidetti spent much of last season sidelined by injury problems, but the striker will now look to prove his worth at the Britannia Stadium where he joins former City midfielder Stephen Ireland and manager Mark Hughes.

He has agreed a deal with the Potters that will expire on 30 June, 2014. We will keep you informed of Guidetti's progress in our Loan Watch series.



16 in 2007 and 21 in 2014. Yer wot?

Good luck to the kid anyway. This is his chance to shine.


born 15 april 1992. purchased in summer 07 i believe, when he would've been 15, not 16. will turn 22 in a few months. hope that clears things up a bit.


more help than he deserves. That comment was all over the place (even once edited) :)
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:51 pm

ruralblue wrote:Pleased for the lad really. If he manages to stay fit and bangs them in for stoke then its all great experience in the prem for bringing him back into the fold. Would hope theres a recall clause in there somewhere as we don't fully know whats going on with jovetic. Had he stayed and the Count played him to no success then it wouldnt have looked great for him or the Pellegrini. As someone mentions further up it could be simular situation to us loaning Hart out to Birmingham. Jusf wish Torquay or Yeovil would come in for Garcia now ;-)


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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby zabbadabbado » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:52 pm

I can only assume that Pellegrini thinks we have sufficient resources up front to carry us through the rest off the season.

Personally i am not convinced we do have.Aguero is going to take a few weeks to get back up to speed,and Dzeko and Negredo look fucked right now.We could have done with resting both strikers tomorrow night for Cardiff at the weekend,and rested them at West Ham away,if we had a striker to replace them .
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Bleed_Blue » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:02 am

Gudetti has already been involved in Stoke training sessions, hope we can see him on Saturday
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:42 am

zabbadabbado wrote:I can only assume that Pellegrini thinks we have sufficient resources up front to carry us through the rest off the season.

Personally i am not convinced we do have.Aguero is going to take a few weeks to get back up to speed,and Dzeko and Negredo look fucked right now.We could have done with resting both strikers tomorrow night for Cardiff at the weekend,and rested them at West Ham away,if we had a striker to replace them .


Aguero and Jayko don't look "fucked right now...."

I think we'll be fine unless we have two strikers injured at once....can that happen? Yes, but any team with two of their 3 best strikers injured is fucked. Who has 4 international strikers at their club available at the ready?

I think we have the best strike force in the league...maybe even world football, so i think we'll be fine. I'm sure Pellers thought so or he wouldn't let the kid go lace em up and get some run outs.

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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Dubciteh » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:37 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
zabbadabbado wrote:I can only assume that Pellegrini thinks we have sufficient resources up front to carry us through the rest off the season.

Personally i am not convinced we do have.Aguero is going to take a few weeks to get back up to speed,and Dzeko and Negredo look fucked right now.We could have done with resting both strikers tomorrow night for Cardiff at the weekend,and rested them at West Ham away,if we had a striker to replace them .


Aguero and Jayko don't look "fucked right now...."

I think we'll be fine unless we have two strikers injured at once....can that happen? Yes, but any team with two of their 3 best strikers injured is fucked. Who has 4 international strikers at their club available at the ready?

I think we have the best strike force in the league...maybe even world football, so i think we'll be fine. I'm sure Pellers thought so or he wouldn't let the kid go lace em up and get some run outs.

cheers


I think they looked fucked too, and the fact we kind of have to play one or two of them in games where they should be rested ie blackburn and west ham cos we have literally no one else isnt good. We have also lost one of our back up front men in nasri as he had the potential to play off a front man meaning we could rest one of them, we are playing matches every three days with essentially only two front men. Hopefully Aguero can help share the load when he gets back but i personally think we need another body whether that be a fit jovetic or whatever i think we need one.
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Re: Guidetti to Stoke

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:02 pm

Dubciteh wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
zabbadabbado wrote:I can only assume that Pellegrini thinks we have sufficient resources up front to carry us through the rest off the season.

Personally i am not convinced we do have.Aguero is going to take a few weeks to get back up to speed,and Dzeko and Negredo look fucked right now.We could have done with resting both strikers tomorrow night for Cardiff at the weekend,and rested them at West Ham away,if we had a striker to replace them .


Aguero and Jayko don't look "fucked right now...."

I think we'll be fine unless we have two strikers injured at once....can that happen? Yes, but any team with two of their 3 best strikers injured is fucked. Who has 4 international strikers at their club available at the ready?

I think we have the best strike force in the league...maybe even world football, so i think we'll be fine. I'm sure Pellers thought so or he wouldn't let the kid go lace em up and get some run outs.

cheers


I think they looked fucked too, and the fact we kind of have to play one or two of them in games where they should be rested ie blackburn and west ham cos we have literally no one else isnt good. We have also lost one of our back up front men in nasri as he had the potential to play off a front man meaning we could rest one of them, we are playing matches every three days with essentially only two front men. Hopefully Aguero can help share the load when he gets back but i personally think we need another body whether that be a fit jovetic or whatever i think we need one.


I thought Dzeko in particular looked great in the last two games. Negredo looked to me if he was carrying an injury about two weeks ago, but looks back to full speed now. A bit tired later on v Newcastle but still found enough to outrun their defence in injury time.
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