Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

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Who Do You Prefer At Centre Back?

Poll ended at Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:06 am

Lescott
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Demichelis
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:50 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think Lescott would have struggled last night, so if the poll was for last night's game I would possibly vote Demichelis. In most other games I would vote Lescott.


He picked DM and it has backfired mate.


It wasn't just down to Demichelis though (altghough he was fucking hopeless for the pen) Zabba & Navas were just as bad previous to it. Playing that nervously, we were never going to get away with it for 90 mins.

It took me about 15 mins to realise we had fucking had it. Had Lescott played, it probably would have been him getting the shit now for a different incident. Barca were going to win, because we weren't at the races & one of the defenders was going to fuck up.

Unfortunately for Demichelis, it happened to be him.


He was fine for 10 mins and then he was hacking like the lad who watches and gets a game, to be exposed as a watcher, he had no composure and looked petrified, Zabba no composure, Kolarov offered nothing and Hart did some stuff that was crazy shit one pass to Vinny with him at LB was mind blowing, we lack composure and we need better quality in a few areas.


They bottled it. Kompany's arse had gone completely. He was fine chasing around tackling people, but on the ball he was Richard Dunne. He knows it too. In that environment, Lescott would have been just the same imo.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:58 am

Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:00 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.


The captain gave the ball away about every 5 mins all night, usually under no pressure.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Plain Speaking » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:07 am

It depends on the opposition. Lescott would be better against the likes of stoke he is better at tackling and heading but his ball control is limited.
MDM has better ball control, don't forget he was in the La Liga team of the year last year, when at Malaga. It was a bad decision by MDM to take down Messi but everyone knows we need a better cb to partner VK. I refuse to castigate MP and MDM it was an unfortunate mistake. All defenders make mistakes from time to time.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:14 am

Plain Speaking wrote:It depends on the opposition. Lescott would be better against the likes of stoke he is better at tackling and heading but his ball control is limited.
MDM has better ball control, don't forget he was in the La Liga team of the year last year, when at Malaga. It was a bad decision by MDM to take down Messi but everyone knows we need a better cb to partner VK. I refuse to castigate MP and MDM it was an unfortunate mistake. All defenders make mistakes from time to time.


If we are having a player of Demichelis' type, he should be able to do 100 metres in about 10 secs. Then if he fucks up, he will have the pace to redeem himself on many occasions.

When we play teams with big strikers, we need someone like Lescott. Not v Barca. You could play a good tackling def mid at cb v Barca.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:23 am

Lescott it goes without saying. I love some of the comments on here which inevitably return to the Demic is much better on the ball than Lescott. Did you see him last night.Time and again he got balls through tackles ,interceptions or whatever and almost every time gave it straight back to Barca. Yes he looks more confident but that just hides the fact that he is crap on the ball as well.

And yes I do know Lescott isn't good in possession but it's just he aint as far away from the others as most seem to think.Ted was right about Kompany last night with his distribution but overall I thought he was superb with his defending and leadership qualities.

Demic was playing quite well as purely a defender last night till the team cock up for the first goal where he was the ultimate culprit.I thought it had nil nil all over it till then and that score would have been a great result.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:24 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.


The captain gave the ball away about every 5 mins all night, usually under no pressure.


Yes, but the thread is specifically about Lescott and DeMichelis.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Slim » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:33 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.


The captain gave the ball away about every 5 mins all night, usually under no pressure.


Kompany :
Overall passing: 40/48(83.3%).
2/8 of the failed passes were in our own half.
33/41(80.5%) were forward passes.
0 passes back to the keeper.
Kompany Link: [urlnp=http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/5-2013/matches/738759/player-stats/17476/1_PASS_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor]LINK[/urlnp]

Demichelis:
Overall passing: 17/23(73.9%).
4/6 of the failed passes were in our own half.
11/17(64.7%) were forward passes.
2 passes back to the keeper.
Demichelis Link: [urlnp=http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/5-2013/matches/738759/player-stats/15312/1_PASS_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor]LINK[/urlnp]
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby lets all have a disco » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:34 am

We won the league with Lescott and Kompany.

Thats all.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:37 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.


The captain gave the ball away about every 5 mins all night, usually under no pressure.


Yes, but the thread is specifically about Lescott and DeMichelis.


No point in singling out Lescott's dodgy backpass as worthy of special attention when the rest of the back 5 can't pass ten yards without getting it wrong. It suggests he had a worse problem than the others as a reason he shouldn't play. He didn't, they were all useless on the ball.

The reason I probably wouldn't play Lescott v Barca is that it doesn't suit him defensively.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:40 am

Neither, and Kompany needs to up his game.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:44 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Neither, and Kompany needs to up his game.


You are having laugh with the Komps comment ?
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:45 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.


The captain gave the ball away about every 5 mins all night, usually under no pressure.


Yes, but the thread is specifically about Lescott and DeMichelis.


No point in singling out Lescott's dodgy backpass as worthy of special attention when the rest of the back 5 can't pass ten yards without getting it wrong. It suggests he had a worse problem than the others as a reason he shouldn't play. He didn't, they were all useless on the ball.

The reason I probably wouldn't play Lescott v Barca is that it doesn't suit him defensively.


I fully expect Nastasic to play in the return leg if he is back from injury, which he is expected to be
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Herb » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:50 am

lets all have a disco wrote:We won the league with Lescott and Kompany.

Thats all.


That was 2 years ago and JL was a weak link even then. He's a great guy who's served us well and who always puts his everything into the game when he gets a chance.
He's a useful but very highly paid back-up squad member (so highly paid that he stayed put rather than go where he could get lower paid but regular first team football and vie for an England place) but that doesn't mean that he's as good as Demichelis and he will leave us in the summer when the big bucks stop.
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:51 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Neither.

Apart from the 'eccentricities' that DeMichelis possesses, I shuddered at the 'hoofed', panic-stricken back-pass by Lescott which gave away a needless corner.

Wonderwall probably had the best idea when suggesting, in the absence of anyone decent, we play three at the back.


The captain gave the ball away about every 5 mins all night, usually under no pressure.


Yes, but the thread is specifically about Lescott and DeMichelis.


No point in singling out Lescott's dodgy backpass as worthy of special attention when the rest of the back 5 can't pass ten yards without getting it wrong. It suggests he had a worse problem than the others as a reason he shouldn't play. He didn't, they were all useless on the ball.

The reason I probably wouldn't play Lescott v Barca is that it doesn't suit him defensively.


I fully expect Nastasic to play in the return leg if he is back from injury, which he is expected to be


Yep, just mentioned it.

We're fucked.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:57 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Neither, and Kompany needs to up his game.


You are having laugh with the Komps comment ?

No. He's generally outstanding but there's a creeping recklessness in his game that he might be catching off Demi.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby clippo22 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:08 pm

I'm not gonna vote as I think it depends on who we are playing against as to who I would prefer. Up until the red card I thought MD had defended really well but gave the ball away too much. Same for JL when he came on, although I had to cringe at the back pass from the half way line for the corner. I thought it was a poor attempt by Hart to keep it in though, I know he's a keeper but surely he can take a ball down with nobody within 40 yards of him and well away from his goal?
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:17 pm

I cannot vote as both are shite.
Lescotts performance last night was woeful , back pass in panic from the half way line to give a corner away was comical , actually I've never seen a back pass like that for years..he panics on the ball when he has any opposing player a yard away and if no one can see that then you shouldn't even be allowed to comment on a Lescott thread !

On a side note , DM actually defended well up to the sending off...not that it makes any difference to how I feel about him playing in the starting 11.
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:20 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I cannot vote as both are shite.
Lescotts performance last night was woeful , back pass in panic from the half way line to give a corner away was comical , actually I've never seen a back pass like that for years..he panics on the ball when he has any opposing player a yard away and if no one can see that then you shouldn't even be allowed to comment on a Lescott thread !

On a side note , DM actually defended well up to the sending off...not that it makes any difference to how I feel about him playing in the starting 11.


He should be panicking on the ball if he has an opposing player a yard away, as he is in the shit otherwise.

Did anyone else play any totally shit passes last night or was it just Lescott ?
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Re: Poll: Lescott Or Demechelis?

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:21 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Neither, and Kompany needs to up his game.


You are having laugh with the Komps comment ?

No. He's generally outstanding but there's a creeping recklessness in his game that he might be catching off Demi.


Not a chance, he is stepping up as he did with Hazzard and leading as a captain should. No turn no problems from Messi when Komps was on him. 2 of the worlds best marked out of the game when he was dealing with them. It is average Joe's around him that causes us problems.
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