Kompany and Hart

[roblues]

Be careful you will have Ted shaking his metaphorical walking stick at you.

I agree by the way.

No I will just discuss it, as I just have, rather than implying Hart would let in goals for his England 'buddies' like you did, you utter cunt.

You know throwing insults about says more about your lack of intellect ?,although given your advanced years it could be the early onset of dementia.

I think as a keeper he is dog shit,not just dog shit, but DOG SHIT.If Stevie G had pinged one at his best mate today i would not have been surprised if it had squirmed in.I thought he was to blame for the 1st,could have done better with the second.Learned fuck all and still ran out again to face another England regular Sturridge with his legs wider than a hooker..Like i said i don't give a fuck he is English he is shit and needs replacing.

You claimed that Joe would intentionally let goals in for Liverpool players on the basis that they were English and so is he. There was no misunderstanding there, and whether you deserve the insults is not for me to decide but I certainly won't defend you with your current stance and I'm not sure many others would.

Do you think Joe would intentionally throw a game for his 'England pals'? Here's your chance to backtrack.

Most games we could play with a fly keeper so good are we,even with Joe shocking distribution.Occasionally we have very high profile games where our keeper is required to do a little bit more for us Joe saves his appalling goal keeping for the most important City games Bayern home,Chelsea away,Liverpool and many others.I am not going to lie there was a game against the RAGS at the Etihad where they scored 4 goals from just 4 shots on target,1 was disallowed where i was very suspicious only for the fact that i thought a keeper could not possibly be that shit to concede 4 from 4 shots in a game we dominated,i thought at the time he could have been making a point to Mancini.I also heard rumors as we all did that he deliberately conceded in the Cup Final against Wigan to make sure Roberto got the bullet.I suppose i am questioning his integrity based on his shit keeping in important games.Him being a boyhood RAG fan dosent help.

Well, I find it hard to believe and pretty offensive to the guy. Could have done better for the first goal, but if he was trying to throw the game he was very lucky that the mistakes of others allowed him to do so.

[Ted Hughes]

i thought at the time he could have been making a point to Mancini.I also heard rumors as we all did that he deliberately conceded in the Cup Final against Wigan to make sure Roberto got the bullet.I suppose i am questioning his integrity based on his shit keeping in important games.Him being a boyhood RAG fan dosent help.

I rest my case.

And Hart isn't the only player who has had you questioning their integrity.

[blues2win]

Ted is absolutely right as he usually is. Hart does not throw matches.

Ted's an intelligent poster who takes no prisoners so he can expect robustness back. However, on this occasion the abuse thrown at him was bang out of order. The site would be a lot poorer without his pearls even if I wish he'd stop banging on about Lescott.

[PeterParker]

They are not the same players as they where when we won the league, that been said, i won't talk about Hart. He has done some good, but some bad games this season, but he improved after the was bench, imho.

My problem is regarding Vinnie. Remember the Fulham away game? At what he did there? Imagine the Barcelona home game? Where he was nowhere to be seen? Remember the Soton game away? Should i mention the Hull game?

His footgame declined the past season incredible. Beside that, his offesive approach is nowhere as good as it was in the past. Yeah, you could say it is because he doesn't have a good partner, but Demichels, with all his weirdness and heat around him, didn't make any mistake as bad as those that Vinnie did.

The problem is that i dislike as fuck the thing that I AM SHITTING MY PANTS when Vinnie plays and i prefere having Lescott and Demi. I am afraid of fuck because when you least expect, Vinnie does something like he did today.

[Ted Hughes]

They are not the same players as they where when we won the league, that been said, i won't talk about Hart. He has done some good, but some bad games this season, but he improved after the was bench, imho.

My problem is regarding Vinnie. Remember the Fulham away game? At what he did there? Imagine the Barcelona home game? Where he was nowhere to be seen? Remember the Soton game away? Should i mention the Hull game?

His footgame declined the past season incredible. Beside that, his offesive approach is nowhere as good as it was in the past. Yeah, you could say it is because he doesn't have a good partner, but Demichels, with all his weirdness and heat around him, didn't make any mistake as bad as those that Vinnie did.

The problem is that i dislike as fuck the thing that I AM SHITTING MY PANTS when Vinnie plays and i prefere having Lescott and Demi. I am afraid of fuck because when you least expect, Vinnie does something like he did today.

It's not easy to play the way our back 4 are being asked to play. It's much easier for a defender to play in Mancini's system imo, rather than to play in Pellegrini & indeed Hughes' systems. But the Count knows that is the case & wants to persevere with it, so we'll see how it works in the future. One season is nowhere near enough time to make such a change.

[PeterParker]

They are not the same players as they where when we won the league, that been said, i won't talk about Hart. He has done some good, but some bad games this season, but he improved after the was bench, imho.

My problem is regarding Vinnie. Remember the Fulham away game? At what he did there? Imagine the Barcelona home game? Where he was nowhere to be seen? Remember the Soton game away? Should i mention the Hull game?

His footgame declined the past season incredible. Beside that, his offesive approach is nowhere as good as it was in the past. Yeah, you could say it is because he doesn't have a good partner, but Demichels, with all his weirdness and heat around him, didn't make any mistake as bad as those that Vinnie did.

The problem is that i dislike as fuck the thing that I AM SHITTING MY PANTS when Vinnie plays and i prefere having Lescott and Demi. I am afraid of fuck because when you least expect, Vinnie does something like he did today.

It's not easy to play the way our back 4 are being asked to play. It's much easier for a defender to play in Mancini's system imo, rather than to play in Pellegrini & indeed Hughes' systems. But the Count knows that is the case & wants to persevere with it, so we'll see how it works in the future. One season is nowhere near enough time to make such a change.

Yeah and he said that at MOTD last week when he was invited. He said that there is a huge difference between Bobby's defensive system and the one Pellers has, that there is a lot of pressure on the defenders, because the fullbacks plays so up.

But those mistakes, like this one, were mistakes he did all by himself, the system has nothing to do with that.

If you ask me, the key is Yaya. We need to push him forward and get a real defensive player on his position. 2-0 with him there and our defence was in pieces, then the spanish Adonis came in and scouse didn't had much after that. But in order to do that, we must sacrifice someone from the attacking lads OR play yaya front just in big games as Bobby did at Newcastle.

That move was a title decider. Getting Garcia today and getting Milner up, was another title decider, but somehow too late.

[MilnersJaw]

Far too much blame on Kompany but hart proved today he isn't world class and needs to be moved on.

First goal sometimes defenders get beat esecpially by quick players, it happens. But wtf was hart doing? Another head and shoulders advert , fuck off.

Third goal, harts dive was pathetic a world class keeper would have got something on that.

[hyper]

I also heard rumors as we all did that he deliberately conceded in the Cup Final against Wigan to make sure Roberto got the bullet.

I heard rumours, but luckily I'm not such a thick cunt as to believe them. What about you?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Hart didn't do a lot wrong today, questionable on the first but was rushing out to close the space after Vinnie got his angles wrong, caught in no man's land, maybe with hindsight he shouldn't have rushed out but understand why he did.

Second goal, Hart was where he should be, couple of yards off his line in a position to compete for the ball should it reach the centre, great header from Skeletor with too much pace on it for Hart to get near it.

Third one, no chance. On the slow motion replay it may look like he didn't shift his feet quick enough but watch it in real time and you see the power Coutinho got on it, he caught it perfect.

Lest we forget Joe's save against Coutinho at 1-0 in the first fixture or more to the point his solid and on occasion match winning displays since he was reinstated.

On all three goals questions can be asked of Vinnie especially their winner but there were a few out there today who didn't rise to the occasion and Pellegrini's non selection of Milner from the start, as well as the timing of Aguero for Dzeko were all factors that led to that result, not least a large slice ( literally ) of luck for the Dippers, let's not single just one or two out and make scapegoats of them. It's disingenuous and papers over other issues that played their part in the defeat.

[Dubaimancityfan]

I think there is no defending Hart on the first goal. There is no justification for him coming out when there was Vinny and other defenders still out there to deal with Sterling. If he had just stayed on his line, Sterling would have been forced to do something else instead of shooting.
As for Kompany, well it s a bit difficult to admit, but he was at fault in all 3 goals with a big co-starring role in the first by Hart. The 3rd one came after Clichy's pathetic attempt at heading the ball. If he had not touched it would have fallen comfortably for Komps to clear it. Very unlucky that Komps got a bad touch on the ball. Of course Clichy had a nice role in the first goal when he was swept away like a feather by Suarez before he passed the ball to Sterling. How he is preferred to Kolarov, I don't know ??
Coming back to Kompany and his form aside, my biggest worry about him now is his recklessness. He can hardly complete a match without a yellow card. Today he almost gave away a penalty by holding Suarz not once but twice in the penalty area. He was lucky that Clattenburg probably felt that Suarez shouldn't have been on the field by then and he let is go. We know how many imaginary penalties the dippers usually get !!

[mooner]

V.K and Joe are top class, fact is City as a team will fuck up at crucial times. Bad mistake today could cost us, it's out of our hands now lads...and lasses.

[nottsblue]

Agree here. Hart was lost for first goal. 2nd he didnt do a deal wrong but why was no one on the posts. 3rd was just a great strike that even Neuer wouldn't have got too. Kompany was at fault for number 3 and didnt cover himself in glory for first two and could've conceded penalty. Unacceptable today but thats football. Wouldnt swap Kompany and the only goalies who I'd swap Hart for are not likely to be obtainable

[failsworthblue]

Hart was at fault for the first two goals.

[bayblue]

Far too much blame on Kompany but hart proved today he isn't world class and needs to be moved on. First goal sometimes defenders get beat esecpially by quick players, it happens. But wtf was hart doing? Another head and shoulders advert , fuck off. Third goal, harts dive was pathetic a world class keeper would have got something on that.

Out of interest who would you bring in?

By the way you half answer your own question. For the first goal Hart came out as he was worried Sterling was going to get there first. After that then maybe he could have gone back but equally if he had an early shot would have made him look even sillier. As for him getting to the third goal then I'm not sure about that. It was a tremendous strike from a half chance. Hart's reactions are good, as can be seen from the save he made from Gerrard, but I think it's really harsh to pin any blame on him for that goal.

[South Stand Balti]

Vinny is the best centre back I have seen in years. Credit to him for playing today despite injury. Proper captain...proud to have him at City.

[nottsblue]

Vinny is the best centre back I have seen in years. Credit to him for playing today despite injury. Proper captain...proud to have him at City.

Aye. Love him to bits.

[Kladze]

Kompany was 100% atrocious today, at fault for all three goals n[*]ot just for the spectacular fuck up on the third.
I told him as much on Twitter but I also told him to move on, forget it and we'll easily forgive him - WE ARE CITY FANS after all.

So, all of you, stop fucking whinging.........

And that's my input over with until at least the end of the season :D

[Tokyo Blue]

Kompany was 100% atrocious today, at fault for all three goals n[*]ot just for the spectacular fuck up on the third.
I told him as much on Twitter but I also told him to move on, forget it and we'll easily forgive him - WE ARE CITY FANS after all.

So, all of you, stop fucking whinging.........

And that's my input over with until at least the end of the season :D

If I were Vinny, I'd tell you to "stop fucking whinging" (sic).

[john@staustell]

Kompany was 100% atrocious today, at fault for all three goals n[*]ot just for the spectacular fuck up on the third.
I told him as much on Twitter but I also told him to move on, forget it and we'll easily forgive him - WE ARE CITY FANS after all.

So, all of you, stop fucking whinging.........

:D

This.

we all make mistakes bot I always wonder why Kompany's blunders never get the same attention as Demichelis (who was excellent) or Garcia. After all he makes more.

[Mike J]

Nope. Kompany for me is the best CB in the world and Hart is a top notch keeper.

Vinnie needs to top draw partner.