Rooney...end of the line?

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Just as an aside, news has come in that Rooney and all the English players, earlier today, visited a local orphanage and spent several hours there talking to all the kids.

"It was heartbreaking to see all their sad, little faces, with a lack of hope in their eyes" said Pablo, aged six.

[DoomMerchant]

Just as an aside, news has come in that Rooney and all the English players, earlier today, visited a local orphanage and spent several hours there talking to all the kids.

"It was heartbreaking to see all their sad, little faces, with a lack of hope in their eyes" said Pablo, aged six.

expected, but still mildly funny.

Also, you could have done better than "Pablo"...homer.

cheers

[nottsblue]

If we are talking poor jokes:-

Hoping Rooney will score in a World Cup is like giving your pint to George Best to look after whilst you go for a piss

[Im_Spartacus]

Regardless of performances, sponsorship is what counts, and he is, unfortunately undroppable from that perspective.

[DoomMerchant]

Regardless of performances, sponsorship is what counts, and he is, unfortunately undroppable from that perspective.

Do you believe that?

I don't.

[Im_Spartacus]

Do you believe that? I don't.

Whether you believe it or not, that's how it is, and that's how it's been ever since the emergence of the 'golden generation'

[DoomMerchant]

Whether you believe it or not, that's how it is, and that's how it's been ever since the emergence of the 'golden generation'

If roy had the balls to play Barkley and the Ox instead of Rooney and Gerrard you cunts wouldn't surprise me if you made the semis.

[Im_Spartacus]

If roy had the balls to play Barkley and the Ox instead of Rooney and Gerrard you cunts wouldn't surprise me if you made the semis.

I think he would play them, but not at the expense of either Rooney or Gerrard. England managers have spent too long now with one hand tied behind their back on selection of that group of players, and I'm glad for one that the period is coming to an end.

The pace and directness we showed was premier league through and through and should be what English football is all about. We aren't technically good enough to out pass Italy's or Spain's midfield, so I think woy is onto something with last nights approach.

Rooney could be part of that, but just seems so pedestrian come tournament time......not for the want of talent as he is one of the few opposition players I've seen in the last 20 years who genuinely scare me when he has his head on the game, its wierd he just vanishes though

[Im_Spartacus]

I think he would play them, but not at the expense of either Rooney or Gerrard. England managers have spent too long now with one hand tied behind their back on selection of that group of players, and I'm glad for one that the period is coming to an end.

The pace and directness we showed was premier league through and through and should be what English football is all about. We aren't technically good enough to out pass Italy's or Spain's midfield, so I think woy is onto something with last nights approach.

Rooney could be part of that, but just seems so pedestrian come tournament time......not for the want of talent as he is one of the few opposition players I've seen in the last 20 years who genuinely scare me when he has his head on the game, its wierd he just vanishes though

[MilnersJaw]

I think he would play them, but not at the expense of either Rooney or Gerrard. England managers have spent too long now with one hand tied behind their back on selection of that group of players, and I'm glad for one that the period is coming to an end.

The pace and directness we showed was premier league through and through and should be what English football is all about. We aren't technically good enough to out pass Italy's or Spain's midfield, so I think woy is onto something with last nights approach.

Rooney could be part of that, but just seems so pedestrian come tournament time......not for the want of talent as he is one of the few opposition players I've seen in the last 20 years who genuinely scare me when he has his head on the game, its wierd he just vanishes though

You give too much credit to him. Averages 13 goals a season yet is in the same pay bracket as messi. Not world class and has forever been overrated. People only complement him because he apparently represents English football. Even bacon face knew the score and would have got rid if it wasn't for his angina.

[Mase]

Why not just tell the fat prick there is a pie waiting for him in the back of the net. Simples.

[DoomMerchant]

I think he would play them, but not at the expense of either Rooney or Gerrard. England managers have spent too long now with one hand tied behind their back on selection of that group of players, and I'm glad for one that the period is coming to an end.

The pace and directness we showed was premier league through and through and should be what English football is all about. We aren't technically good enough to out pass Italy's or Spain's midfield, so I think woy is onto something with last nights approach.

Rooney could be part of that, but just seems so pedestrian come tournament time......not for the want of talent as he is one of the few opposition players I've seen in the last 20 years who genuinely scare me when he has his head on the game, its wierd he just vanishes though

i agree on a couple points...you showed something else going forward...but did little to recover properly along the flanks when you lost the ball.

I'd either drop Rooney or put him in the No 10 slot and play Milner wide instead of Rooney and move Barkley into the center instead of Gerrard. Drop Henderson. Drop Sterling. Otherwise....play Sterling in the middle and drop Rooney which is what i'd prefer.

cheers

[Herb]

I think Rooney's getting better now that he's bitoxed his forehead he's far more aerodynamic - and the shine from it too . . . who says you can't polish a turd eh?

[john@staustell]

Never been the same since that hair transplant. A sort of Samson in reverse.

[Ted Hughes]

I think he would play them, but not at the expense of either Rooney or Gerrard. England managers have spent too long now with one hand tied behind their back on selection of that group of players, and I'm glad for one that the period is coming to an end.

The pace and directness we showed was premier league through and through and should be what English football is all about. We aren't technically good enough to out pass Italy's or Spain's midfield, so I think woy is onto something with last nights approach.

Rooney could be part of that, but just seems so pedestrian come tournament time......not for the want of talent as he is one of the few opposition players I've seen in the last 20 years who genuinely scare me when he has his head on the game, its wierd he just vanishes though

i agree on a couple points...you showed something else going forward...but did little to recover properly along the flanks when you lost the ball.

I'd either drop Rooney or put him in the No 10 slot and play Milner wide instead of Rooney and move Barkley into the center instead of Gerrard. Drop Henderson. Drop Sterling. Otherwise....play Sterling in the middle and drop Rooney which is what i'd prefer.

cheers

Agree.

The problem I think, is that Sterling & Sturridge (& Oxlaide Chamberlain for that matter) are impact players who play in short attacking bursts, not players who either tactically dominate games & keep the ball, or fill gaps when you lose the ball . So you get a quick bust of danger, then you lose the ball. Rely on any of those 3 to do a job tactically without the ball & they will often go missing, so Rooney & Wellbeck get the short straw, but in reality, they struggle to do the wide job properly themselves & leave holes.

Then we have Stevie Geriatric completely failling to clean anything up when it goes wrong, next to Henderson, who is more athletic but average at best. We saw how Liverpool often fuck up defensively & are trying to replicate it at international level, for some reason.

[sandman]

Despite who he plays for and despite how much I despise him, Rooney is one of England's best players.

The lad is going through a rough patch on the scoring front, but he will come good again and he works harder than 95% of the rest of the squad. How many on here were calling for Joe Harts head when he went though his dodgy patch for England

[Breks]

Despite who he plays for and despite how much I despise him, Rooney is one of England's best players.

The lad is going through a rough patch on the scoring front, but he will come good again and he works harder than 95% of the rest of the squad. How many on here were calling for Joe Harts head when he went though his dodgy patch for England

Well that's doesn't mean Rooney is any good because he is apparently England's best player because England are shit.

[Ted Hughes]

Despite who he plays for and despite how much I despise him, Rooney is one of England's best players.

The lad is going through a rough patch on the scoring front, but he will come good again and he works harder than 95% of the rest of the squad. How many on here were calling for Joe Harts head when he went though his dodgy patch for England

Please don't call Rooney 'the lad' .

[Dameerto]

It's a tournament where every game counts, you can't afford to carry someone in the hope they somehow miraculously come good again - every match counts and if you're out of form you need to be benched in favour of someone else who is doing better in training..

[sandman]

Despite who he plays for and despite how much I despise him, Rooney is one of England's best players.

The lad is going through a rough patch on the scoring front, but he will come good again and he works harder than 95% of the rest of the squad. How many on here were calling for Joe Harts head when he went though his dodgy patch for England

Well that's doesn't mean Rooney is any good because he is apparently England's best player because England are shit.

No, but the following makes him good...

1. He is the Fifth highest goal scorer in English History

2. He is the Ninth most experienced player in English History

3. He has won Five Premier League Titles

4. He has won Two League Cups

5. He has won the Champions League

6. He has won The Professional Footballers' Association Players Player of the Year

7. He has Twice won The Professional Footballers' Association Young Player of the Year

8. He has Twice won The Professional Footballers' Association Fan's Player of the Year

9. He has been in The Professional Footballers' Association Premier League Team of the Year Three Times

10. And he has won the Football Writers' Association Footballer of the Year