do one spafia

[carl_feedthegoat]

Agree serious questions need to be asked of these pair.

They sacked a good manager in Mancini and downgraded to Pellegrini.

They cost us in the FA Cup Final with their handling of Mancini.

They have spent so much money and how much has it improved us, it hasn't.

We failed FFP.

They didn't sack Mancini to make room for Pellegrini, they sacked Mancini because he lost the dressing room and that's fatal for any manager. They bought Pellegrini in because they needed a peacemaker to repair the shit that Roberto caused in his wars with Tevez etc. and preferred managers simply weren't available at that juncture.
Mancini's shit handling of the players cost us the FA Cup - the way he put Hart in for Pants was a cunts trick (and I say that even though I was a Mancini supporter!).
I'm amazed at the negativity on this forum - I used to think that we were made of sterner stuff than the melt down junkies on certain other forums but nah. . a load of high pitched squeaky voiced pantomime dame style exaggeration going on in here and its unbecoming of supporters who once proudly earned a reputation for stoicism by sticking at and keeping the bottom lip in check.

Blow your noses and pull yourselves straight eh?

If the scum end up above us, there is no fucking way on earth that the real hard core man city fans will take it on the chin with just a shrug of the shoulder - just because we all went to see City play against the likes of Macclesfield back in the day doesn't mean we should accept the shit that our manager is dishing up the last few months......................I would love to see your fuckign head when a scum supporter pisses all over you if they do the unthinkable...lets see that shrug of the shoulders then !!!!

[Im_Spartacus]

Agree serious questions need to be asked of these pair.

They sacked a good manager in Mancini and downgraded to Pellegrini.

They cost us in the FA Cup Final with their handling of Mancini.

They have spent so much money and how much has it improved us, it hasn't.

We failed FFP.

I don't believe they downgraded from Mancini the players hated him. The 2 upstairs didn't cost us the final the players on the pitch did. The same players that aren't performing now

You're entitled to your opinion.

The job Mancini did at City is significantly superior to that of Pellegrini. The two manager's CV's, Mancini's is superior.

The players on the pitch did cost us the final but the talk in the media and the supporters was Mancini being sacked on the day of the Cup Final. Is that right? No. Should it have been handled better by them? Yes. Did the uncertainty and circus contribute to our defeat? Yes. So they take some of the blame for the Cup Final defeat.

Whilst I agree with your points about the cup final, you can't have a situation where half the team hates the manager. Both managers won a league and a cup with city, so previous CV counts for nothing for me, and Pellegrini was hired on his own merits. He might not have had the trophies, but he managed Real Madrid to a record points total, and was only booted when he became critical of having to manage with one hand tied behind his back when players were being signed with no regard for what was required (and Mourinho became available). He then had a great track record with an uncertain situation at Malaga.

We sacked a sociopath, and replaced him with a manager who approaches the game in a different way, each had their merits for winning football games, and each has their weaknesses. But both have brought the same success for city, and both appear to have had issues with players downing tools. If the players are the common denominator, then let's be serious about what needs changing here, rather than scapegoating the manager.

If Mancini's way of dealing with this problem was too abrasive, perhaps Pellegrinis is not abrasive enough, either way, we can't let this happen again

[Original Dub]

Excellent post John.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Agree serious questions need to be asked of these pair.

They sacked a good manager in Mancini and downgraded to Pellegrini.

They cost us in the FA Cup Final with their handling of Mancini.

They have spent so much money and how much has it improved us, it hasn't.

We failed FFP.

I don't believe they downgraded from Mancini the players hated him. The 2 upstairs didn't cost us the final the players on the pitch did. The same players that aren't performing now

You're entitled to your opinion.

The job Mancini did at City is significantly superior to that of Pellegrini. The two manager's CV's, Mancini's is superior.

The players on the pitch did cost us the final but the talk in the media and the supporters was Mancini being sacked on the day of the Cup Final. Is that right? No. Should it have been handled better by them? Yes. Did the uncertainty and circus contribute to our defeat? Yes. So they take some of the blame for the Cup Final defeat.

Whilst I agree with your points about the cup final, you can't have a situation where half the team hates the manager. Both managers won a league and a cup with city, so previous CV counts for nothing for me, and Pellegrini was hired on his own merits. He might not have had the trophies, but he managed Real Madrid to a record points total, and was only booted when he became critical of having to manage with one hand tied behind his back when players were being signed with no regard for what was required (and Mourinho became available). He then had a great track record with an uncertain situation at Malaga.

We sacked a sociopath, and replaced him with a manager who approaches the game in a different way, each had their merits for winning football games, and each has their weaknesses. But both have brought the same success for city, and both appear to have had issues with players downing tools. If the players are the common denominator, then let's be serious about what needs changing here, rather than scapegoating the manager.

If Mancini's way of dealing with this problem was too abrasive, perhaps Pellegrinis is not abrasive enough, either way, we can't let this happen again

Lot of sense in that post mate.

[patrickblue]

Agree serious questions need to be asked of these pair.

They sacked a good manager in Mancini and downgraded to Pellegrini.

They cost us in the FA Cup Final with their handling of Mancini.

They have spent so much money and how much has it improved us, it hasn't.

We failed FFP.

They didn't sack Mancini to make room for Pellegrini, they sacked Mancini because he lost the dressing room and that's fatal for any manager. They bought Pellegrini in because they needed a peacemaker to repair the shit that Roberto caused in his wars with Tevez etc. and preferred managers simply weren't available at that juncture.
Mancini's shit handling of the players cost us the FA Cup - the way he put Hart in for Pants was a cunts trick (and I say that even though I was a Mancini supporter!).
I'm amazed at the negativity on this forum - I used to think that we were made of sterner stuff than the melt down junkies on certain other forums but nah. . a load of high pitched squeaky voiced pantomime dame style exaggeration going on in here and its unbecoming of supporters who once proudly earned a reputation for stoicism by sticking at and keeping the bottom lip in check.

Blow your noses and pull yourselves straight eh?

I'm not sure that's right. Certain parts of the media were saying we had lined up the count to replace Mancini a very long time before it happened, something like six months to a year before.Strangely enough there wasn't much speculation about the articles at the time, I know I dismissed them as bollox then.

[Hazy2]

Mancini was in the same position Pellers is now, gone long before the door Plaque gets changed, what does need to happen is the players who are taking the piss again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! need a reality check, the enviroment our owners our club have given them along with the wages that are fucking outrageous are being rewarded with a smacked arse attitude towards the fans and the club. The performances since xmas have been pathetic, the captain awol and his face in the tunnel of who gives a fuck added to his "You want it simple boom everything away sums up the bad smell" I repeat they have previous for downing tools. Thye are doing it again. Chelsea are pants and goosed, we have players who do not care if we win anything as long as the money keeps coming in. Who can blame them know fucker is calling them out !!!! Player power

[Nick]

for me the players can all fuck off. They have fucked up two of our seasons inc. one cup final.

Thinking about this though, some of our big players liked Mancini. Pellers seems likeable. Could it not be that the players know we are getting rid and are against this?

Either way they are fucking the club up and shouldn't have this kind of power. We need a captain that bleeds for the club. I don't think Vinnie is that man anymore.

[Goaters 103]

I have my issues with Pellegrini - if it were up to me he'd be gone in the summer - but John makes the correct point that Pellegrini is being left to take all the flak here, when in reality a common theme is our well piad superstars effectively downing tools on the manager. This has happended to two different managers now, and twice in three seasons.

The common denominator in this is the core group of players themselves, who are clearly behind this in some sort of clique. I don't care who the ringleaders are behind this - Toure, Kompany, Silva, Aguero, whoever - it cant go on. Yes Pellegrini is at fault in terms of formations & selections, but he cannot be held accountable when a team of players don't bother to put a shift it and even an acceptable effort.

The "efforts" given against Liverpool and Leicester were sub standard in my view - many of us commented on something being badly wrong after the Leicester win - but Saturday was the coup de gras. That "performance" was an absolute insult to City fans and the club, and in particular to the poor sods who spent £46 and the majority of their day going to that game, only to be basically fookin insulted by the effort put forth but those paid handsomely to at least track runners, track back, overlap, close down the opposition, bust a gut for the shirt and give their maximum effort.

We have a player power situation on our hands here and a major deep seated problem; a squad that tossed off one FA Cup final, and is now pissing away another season to suit their own ends.

[Tokyo Blue]

We have a player power situation on our hands here and a major deep seated problem; a squad that tossed off one FA Cup final, and is now pissing away another season to suit their own ends.

I don't disagree with you at all, you make a lot of sense as usual, but I am wondering what exactly those ends might be.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Mancini was in the same position Pellers is now, gone long before the door Plaque gets changed, what does need to happen is the players who are taking the piss again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! need a reality check, the enviroment our owners our club have given them along with the wages that are fucking outrageous are being rewarded with a smacked arse attitude towards the fans and the club. The performances since xmas have been pathetic, the captain awol and his face in the tunnel of who gives a fuck added to his "You want it simple boom everything away sums up the bad smell" I repeat they have previous for downing tools. Thye are doing it again. Chelsea are pants and goosed, we have players who do not care if we win anything as long as the money keeps coming in. Who can blame them know fucker is calling them out !!!! Player power

It wouldn't surprise me if some of them are thinking about what club they'll be with next season. I just hope Pellegrini is right and their minds were on the Barcelona game. If not, we're in serious trouble.

[Original Dub]

The fucking Mirror. Again.

Bunch of rag cunts.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... sm-5343251?

[MilnersJaw]

it wasnt long ago people were praising them for doing the transfer business quick, early and efficiently without much of a saga going on. Now they are the opposite. But tbh, the transfers have been shit, ones to complete with 4th, rather than to win the CL or dominate the league.

[DoomMerchant]

We have a player power situation on our hands here and a major deep seated problem; a squad that tossed off one FA Cup final, and is now pissing away another season to suit their own ends.

I don't disagree with you at all, you make a lot of sense as usual, but I am wondering what exactly those ends might be.

My only thought is that they know the Count is down...for the...wait for it...


Count.

Cheers

[Beefymcfc]

The fucking Mirror. Again.

Bunch of rag cunts.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... sm-5343251?

I've never heard this said about any other club:

In itself, and in terms of their ailing title defence, this was an appalling result. City are now six points behind Chelsea – who have a game in hand – and, more amusingly just one point ahead of Arsenal and two ahead of Manchester United. But that's not the holistic picture.

Why is it amusing unless you have a real hatred for the club you are talking about?

And OD, please post the full story instead of the link, saves me being a number to use in their commercial dept.

[PrezIke]

before ffp we could outspend most in the transfer market.

the past two seasons we have had to spend high on some players who are surely not our real top targets, but likely those that might be willing to sign with us within the constraints of the wages we could offer, the money we could send to the owners of their rights, and those who were available anyway.

everyone talks about mangala's cost, but the only well regarded centre back with pace or at least potential we were seeming to look at was benatia. umm...bayern targeted him and who do you think was going to win out in that contest, even if we wanted him more?

with mangala, porto also knew our options were limited and the 3rd party ownership issue also led to the cost being so high and why it took so long to complete. you really wanted nasti to stay instead? actually, i was listening to the blue moon podcast and one person was maybe right in that we might have tried to keep him if we didn't need to balance the books.

pellegrini also just said that garcia wanted out (in today's interview in the guardian) and fernando has more pace which was needed. he is a squad player anyway that cost little and has potential to improve here.

we have not really been able to splurge in the transfer market whilst we see real, barca and united spending oodles of cash all over the place doing everything we were criticised for previously about sending the market values of players into the stratosphere.

liverpool spent their kitty from suarez, money we did not get or have.

this summer we are going to do something big. it has to happen. if nothing bold happens i would be surprised.

[Tokyo Blue]

We have a player power situation on our hands here and a major deep seated problem; a squad that tossed off one FA Cup final, and is now pissing away another season to suit their own ends.

I don't disagree with you at all, you make a lot of sense as usual, but I am wondering what exactly those ends might be.

My only thought is that they know the Count is down...for the...wait for it... Count.

If they have their own ends, what do they want and how would playing like schoolboys help achieve them? Other than getting the manager sacked, I see nothing they can get out of it. Unless they want to piss the fans off, of course, but why do that? If they want the manager to stay, surely winning every game would see him more likely to keep the job and maybe force a change of heart at board level?

Maybe they think they are able to just tread water until the new bloke comes in. If so, they fucking shouldn't be for tens of thousands of pounds a week.

Maybe they are playing within themselves to conserve energy for whatever reason, I don't know. It does look deliberate though, which is extremely disappointing.

Maybe they are just worn down and sick of decision after decision going against them over the course of numerous seasons. Yet another on Saturday.

Whatever is behind it, if the general apathy we see among the players doesn't change, the fans are going to turn on them (and the spafia) in a Richard Edghill kind of way. And, while it's understandable, that will help no-one. As fans we have got to show a bit of restraint.

[Ted Hughes]

Tried to avoid this thread as it winds me up, but the idea fans turning on the d.o.f. & chief exec when the fucking team are champions, is enough to make me want to fucking throw up. Especially as many of them turned on the previous one, also when we were champions & these blokes, between them have put together possibly the best infrastructure in the history of football.

If we are nowhere as regards producing players etc in 10 years, then I'd be tempted to join in, but ONE fucking season possibly without a title & we get this ?

If the chairman follows that path, I'm not fucking buying a season ticket. Everything becomes a joke & a load of lies.

[Nigels Tackle]

bull fucking shit
any success they've had they have inherited
they've not taken the first team forwards and the academy blueprint was well under way before they came along

[Ted Hughes]

You mean the one Marwood set up before getting the exact same fucking SHITE these are getting ?

For once in history City have hit a sustained period of success & what do some of the fucking fans want to do do ? Destroy it just because they think it MIGHT be down to some mistakes by the brass. Mistakes being two titles in 4 years.

Absutely the stupidest most clueless kneejerk fucking childish shite I've ever heard.

I recon some of you lot deserve Swales back & even then 20 fucking years later you still wouldn't learn anything.

Ridiculous.

[Tokyo Blue]

You mean the one Marwood set up before getting the exact same fucking SHITE these are getting ?

For once in history City have hit a sustained period of success & what do some of the fucking fans want to do do ? Destroy it just because they think it MIGHT be down to some mistakes by the brass. Mistakes being two titles in 4 years.

Absutely the stupidest most clueless kneejerk fucking childish shite I've ever heard.

I recon some of you lot deserve Swales back & even then 20 fucking years later you still wouldn't learn anything.

Ridiculous.

Who do you mean?