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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby ben the blue » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:04 am

Cast your minds back to Manuel first loss 3-2 to Cardiff I knew then by the manner of the defeat this guy was never the man to take us forward . This team was gift wrapped for him for fuck sake . These kind of defeats have been a trait for his tenure . Ok we have signed poo recently but the clear lack of defensive organization is what disappoints me the most . And if I see another outswinging corner this season ..... Its now time we went out and got a manager who will not accept this shit from our players . Whip off your rose tinted specks and get nasty with these fucking fools . Here's one for you aswell aguero only has one foot and can't head the ball
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:06 am

ben the blue wrote:Cast your minds back to Manuel first loss 3-2 to Cardiff I knew then by the manner of the defeat this guy was never the man to take us forward . This team was gift wrapped for him for fuck sake . These kind of defeats have been a trait for his tenure . Ok we have signed poo recently but the clear lack of defensive organization is what disappoints me the most . And if I see another outswinging corner this season ..... Its now time we went out and got a manager who will not accept this shit from our players . Whip off your rose tinted specks and get nasty with these fucking fools . Here's one for you aswell aguero only has one foot and can't head the ball


And is still better than just about any other striker in the Prem, even when injured.

Amazing.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Crossie » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:08 am

Love the idea of Vieira, he will have intimate knowledge the cock sizes of all the EDS, couple that with the first team awareness and he will know which younger players can fit into the team.

Its just too soon though, the reserves or whatever the fuck you want to call them dont seem ready. Might be to do with the fact that anyone who shows a tiny glimmer or promise is sent on loan and never seen again.

It's not Pellegrini's fault that Yaya has a contract clause saying he has to play every league game he's fit for, which leads him to being forced into playing games when he shouldnt be selected. This disrupts team spirit. Having a new manage re-news the optimism in the team so the Yaya issue goes away, goes away too when he scores 20-odd goals a season. But it only takes a few games of Yaya not being arsed for others to get the hump.

The solution is to ditch Yaya in the summer, then create a balanced 11 players who can work like a fucking team, not 5 being in a team and 6 doing their own thing.

Hate to say it but the sooner we get some structure, and this may include ditching Silva, Yaya, Zabs and the entire defence, the better.

If we can't get and world class centre backs and full backs in, we have to give youth a chance, we've got Denayer and Rekik highly rated, some might not rate them, but fuck it, we need to start testing this Holistic theory sooner or later.

I currently feel like I'd rather see some youthful faces getting better and better every game, learning their lessons, improving, watch us lose a few but with effort levels and mentality at 100%, rather than the current crop of ball less eunuchs.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby MilnersJaw » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:11 am

better question is why does hart still have a job. he was easily the worse city player on the pitch yesterday.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:19 am

MilnersJaw wrote:better question is why does hart still have a job. he was easily the worse city player on the pitch yesterday.



Really?


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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby zabbadabbado » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:20 am

My biggest worry is that Pellegrini will be left as our manager for the wrong reason.

Firing him is going to bring closer scrutiny on the DOF, and our disastrous transfer policy since 2012.Firing him will also be an admission of the DOF abject failure. My fear is the Spafia now have nothing to lose, but more to gain riding this out to its natural conclusion by just hoping for the best. In reality his contract should have been terminated weeks ago. The problem is it throws a spanner in their plans of holding out for Guardiola.

I would sack both Pellegrini and the DOF.If the Spafia come as a package then for me they can both go.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:29 am

zabbadabbado wrote:My biggest worry is that Pellegrini will be left as our manager for the wrong reason.

Firing him is going to bring closer scrutiny on the DOF, and our disastrous transfer policy since 2012.Firing him will also be an admission of the DOF abject failure. My fear is the Spafia now have nothing to lose, but more to gain riding this out to its natural conclusion by just hoping for the best. In reality his contract should have been terminated weeks ago. The problem is it throws a spanner in their plans of holding out for Guardiola.

I would sack both Pellegrini and the DOF.If the Spafia come as a package then for me they can both go.


They may not have a policy of holding out for Guardiola. It is just us speculating that him or Vieira are in the plan.

But we had exactly this DOF bollocks with Marwood in the same circumstances. He was made out to be incompetent, even though people have no idea whatsoever of the circumstances he was working under & whether anyone else would do better. Marwood is still at City, continuing to do a great job.

So we brought in the most respected bloke we could find, who most said would be a huge upgrarde on Marwood, & now he is getting the same shit, & yet again, nobody knows the circumstances involved.

Khaldoon does. So if there has been a failure on Txiki's part, he will be gone. If not, we will continue with Txiki most likely sticking to the long term plan.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Dameerto » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:29 am

ben the blue wrote:Cast your minds back to Manuel first loss 3-2 to Cardiff I knew then by the manner of the defeat this guy was never the man to take us forward . This team was gift wrapped for him for fuck sake . These kind of defeats have been a trait for his tenure . Ok we have signed poo recently but the clear lack of defensive organization is what disappoints me the most . And if I see another outswinging corner this season ..... Its now time we went out and got a manager who will not accept this shit from our players . Whip off your rose tinted specks and get nasty with these fucking fools . Here's one for you aswell aguero only has one foot and can't head the ball

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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:34 am

There is no doubt Pellegrini has to take some of, plenty of the blame for what has happened.Either with his stubbornness in keeping playing the same team in the same way or by his inability to get the players playing with an energy and desire we see from teams against us.

But it does seem as though there is something else in the background that we don't know about. Is Pellegrini already aware he is going but if so who have we lined up? I can see a change at the top but I think most importantly we have a bit of a clearout of some of the players.Some new quality needs to come in along with some of the young lads being brought into the squad.

I think some of the kids have to come in and our owners really want/need that to happen.Is Pellegrini the man to make that happen, bring in a few top quality players and keep us challenging for all major honours? What I have seen this season tells me he isn't but who the hell is the right man? I like Vieira a lot but it would be a major risk to throw him in at the deep end with no experience. It would be exciting though wouldn't it!
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Nick » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:41 am

the biggest thing pissing me off is pellers fucking quotes

''we might have a problem now with our spirit. we will try and address''

are you fucking for real?!?!

good point about yaya's contract; he clearly has a 'starter' clause in his contract and it explains the last time we dropped him for 'injury'; only for yaya to come out and say he was rested; probably picking up 100k compensation.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:45 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:There is no doubt Pellegrini has to take some of, plenty of the blame for what has happened.Either with his stubbornness in keeping playing the same team in the same way or by his inability to get the players playing with an energy and desire we see from teams against us.

But it does seem as though there is something else in the background that we don't know about. Is Pellegrini already aware he is going but if so who have we lined up? I can see a change at the top but I think most importantly we have a bit of a clearout of some of the players.Some new quality needs to come in along with some of the young lads being brought into the squad.

I think some of the kids have to come in and our owners really want/need that to happen.Is Pellegrini the man to make that happen, bring in a few top quality players and keep us challenging for all major honours? What I have seen this season tells me he isn't but who the hell is the right man? I like Vieira a lot but it would be a major risk to throw him in at the deep end with no experience. It would be exciting though wouldn't it!


If Vieira was to come in next, it would have to be with the old '5 year plan' imo. He has to be given allowance to find his feet.

Bring through the kids, rebuild the team, hope to get a title, but more realistically top 4 but possibly miss out, maybe an occasional cup. I don't think we would both mind that but I bet most of these fuckers now asking for it would go mental if the reality of it was presented, & want him sacked in the first season.

Right now, it's clear there is a problem. I first mentioned it on here after the Leicester game. I think these players know that a load are going & maybe the Count too. More may leave perhaps than I would replace if it was up to me. Which begs the question of whether some of the kids could stop this season from imploding, never mind the next.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Nick » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:50 am

Which for me, points the finger at the spafia.

It was clear mancini going was leaked pre the fa cup final which cost us a fucking trophy.

Now; it seems like agents, spafia, whoever are trying to ship out yaya etc faster than hart can concede goals.

It needs doing, but if your gonna start in feb do it discreetly ffs.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:58 am

ben the blue wrote:Here's one for you aswell aguero only has one foot and can't head the ball


A bit like Messi. And Maradona. Must be an Argie thing.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby zabbadabbado » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:59 am

Nick wrote:the biggest thing pissing me off is pellers fucking quotes

''we might have a problem now with our spirit. we will try and address''

are you fucking for real?!?!

good point about yaya's contract; he clearly has a 'starter' clause in his contract and it explains the last time we dropped him for 'injury'; only for yaya to come out and say he was rested; probably picking up 100k compensation.
It was a terrible mistake keeping Toure after Cake gate.

We should have cashed in whilst his value was still high.

Instead we have allowed the bad Apple to fester and infect the entire batch. Just seeing him in a City shirt now repulses me. His body language says "I really don't give a fuck about City", his purpose this season has been to deliberately depreciate his own value for his new Employers. Watching him walk/stroll around the pitch doing fuck all week in, week out is shocking. His constant inclusion has imbalanced the entire side. It is like playing with 10 men.

I don't understand why if Pellegrini has been forced to play the fat lazy cunt for contractual reasons week in,week out, he has not stuck him up front behind Aguero or provided more adequate cover in midfield. How many times have we seen poor Fernandinho run himself to death like a Jack Russel on steroids trying to do the impossible in a 2 man midfield.Not only that it has invited more pressure on our constantly rotated defence that has virtually no midfield cover.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:01 am

Nick wrote:Which for me, points the finger at the spafia.

It was clear mancini going was leaked pre the fa cup final which cost us a fucking trophy.

Now; it seems like agents, spafia, whoever are trying to ship out yaya etc faster than hart can concede goals.

It needs doing, but if your gonna start in feb do it discreetly ffs.


It isn't possible to do it 100% discreetly though. There is too much chatter in the game.

It involves agents, clubs etc. Barca leaked the Pellegrini story for instance because they were talking to him . Some of the players we are trying to ship out, will have the same agents as the ones we are trying to get in, or their clubs will be looking for replacements for players we are after, etc etc. They will quickly put 2+2 together & start making phonecalls.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Nick » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:04 am

ok I understand that but why start in jan and feb? For me we tried shipping kolorov out in Jan/considered leaving him out of the uefa squad and he twigged and showed us what he thought of it with that December performance. Backfired as we didn't land that French bloke and dropped Jove as he seems the only half decent bloke.

conjecture on my part but im still pissed off and haven't slept for days.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:06 am

Nick wrote:ok I understand that but why start in jan and feb? For me we tried shipping kolorov out in Jan/considered leaving him out of the uefa squad and he twigged and showed us what he thought of it with that December performance. Backfired as we didn't land that French bloke and dropped Jove as he seems the only half decent bloke.

conjecture on my part but im still pissed off and haven't slept for days.


I wonder if the whole thing started with Jovetic being dropped from the Champs Lg squad.
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Nige » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:14 am

The only way Pellegrini can retrieve any respect is by dropping the few players who are either on their way or completely out if form for the last few games,
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:17 am

Nige wrote:The only way Pellegrini can retrieve any respect is by dropping the few players who are either on their way or completely out if form for the last few games,
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Milner is injured & maybe going, Jovetic probably going.

So what's the team ?
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Re: Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:19 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Nick wrote:ok I understand that but why start in jan and feb? For me we tried shipping kolorov out in Jan/considered leaving him out of the uefa squad and he twigged and showed us what he thought of it with that December performance. Backfired as we didn't land that French bloke and dropped Jove as he seems the only half decent bloke.

conjecture on my part but im still pissed off and haven't slept for days.


I wonder if the whole thing started with Jovetic being dropped from the Champs Lg squad.


If you look back, the problems were before then, we were shit in both FA Cup games which were played before the CL squad deadline.

I think it has something to do with a disagreement over tactics. We did great when he was forced to change it in December, then fell to pieces as soon as Kompany and Aguero came back and reverted to the system from earlier in the season. Since then, the only game that stands out is the Newcastle one where we played proper football and all the players got stuck in, Dzeko in particular was magnificent that game, almost certainly in response to the manager selecting him over Bony (which given the Jovetic decision happened around that time, suggests that his omission from the CL squad wasn't a factor).

However, issues like Jovetic's omission and Milner's contract are sure to have eroded some goodwill amongst a group of players that have been together a relatively long time now.
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