sniff sniff - what a plank!

[Mase]

You'd always want to hear that this was spiking for his sake, but the likelihood of being spiked a few days before the testers show up sounds a bit far fetched, unless he got spiked every weekend

I don't think anyone cares if he was spiked! It's quite obvious he wasn't, but you can throw random stories in to the mix of you want.

[Im_Spartacus]

You'd always want to hear that this was spiking for his sake, but the likelihood of being spiked a few days before the testers show up sounds a bit far fetched, unless he got spiked every weekend

I don't think anyone cares if he was spiked! It's quite obvious he wasn't, but you can throw random stories in to the mix of you want.

Oh so we just want a baying mob who don't give a fuck about the circumstances?

I'd much rather this turned out to be a case like that, than find out he's an absolute fucking moron who thought he could avoid the rules. I don't think it would be that unusual either, I'm sure someone's successfully used this defence in the past, however spurious it might have been

I'm fairly sure it will turn out that he's a fucking moron, I'm just saying I hope that wasn't the case.

No more random a point than the many people who automatically assume some bird is involved or any other speculation

[BlueinBosnia]

No more random a point than the many people who automatically assume some bird is involved or any other speculation

I thought people were talking about how accurately tests can pick up drugs in the system, rather than the way they got into him.

[Im_Spartacus]

No more random a point than the many people who automatically assume some bird is involved or any other speculation

I thought people were talking about how accurately tests can pick up drugs in the system, rather than the way they got into him.

Did we not start off with 'a bird being involved' before getting on to accuracy.

I dunno, I get lost with doomys fantasies recently

[Nick]

the rumours were that wilshere (who it seems we want) was at it and was an excuse for one of his lenghty injury lay off.

don't get the idiots that take it. Booze is enough for me. And that gives me crazy heart beats and no sleep the next day. Coke would probably kill me.

[BlueinBosnia]

No more random a point than the many people who automatically assume some bird is involved or any other speculation

I thought people were talking about how accurately tests can pick up drugs in the system, rather than the way they got into him.

Did we not start off with 'a bird being involved' before getting on to accuracy.

I dunno, I get lost with doomys fantasies recently

No, we didn't. That was drawing on an established case/excuse regarding how drugs got into a tennis player's system.

A question to someone who might know more: cocaine leaves the system pretty quickly, as far as I understand. How can they measure the amount taken/ingested? Are there two separate parts of a drugs test, one to measure how long ago something was taken, and the other to measure the amount currently in the system?

[Slim]

No more random a point than the many people who automatically assume some bird is involved or any other speculation

I thought people were talking about how accurately tests can pick up drugs in the system, rather than the way they got into him.

Did we not start off with 'a bird being involved' before getting on to accuracy.

I dunno, I get lost with doomys fantasies recently

No, we didn't. That was drawing on an established case/excuse regarding how drugs got into a tennis player's system.

A question to someone who might know more: cocaine leaves the system pretty quickly, as far as I understand. How can they measure the amount taken/ingested? Are there two separate parts of a drugs test, one to measure how long ago something was taken, and the other to measure the amount currently in the system?

2-4 days. You have an LoR looking for the compounds that signify cocaine usage and while some of the compounds exist in other things(Icecream, cigarettes, etc) it's the combination of compounds and minimum levels of reporting that confirm it's usage. Confirming how much really all depends on how long ago it was taken as the body breaks down and absorbs the chemicals.

In short, you can confirm a positive, you can only tell how much if you know when, and you can only confirm when if you know how much.

Hair follicle test is about 3 months I believe, not entirely sure how that works though or if that can give you a more accurate picture(which they wouldn't have done anyway).

[BlueinBosnia]

2-4 days. You have an LoR looking for the compounds that signify cocaine usage and while some of the compounds exist in other things(Icecream, cigarettes, etc) it's the combination of compounds and minimum levels of reporting that confirm it's usage. Confirming how much really all depends on how long ago it was taken as the body breaks down and absorbs the chemicals.

In short, you can confirm a positive, you can only tell how much if you know when, and you can only confirm when if you know how much.

Hair follicle test is about 3 months I believe, not entirely sure how that works though or if that can give you a more accurate picture(which they wouldn't have done anyway).

Cheers. So the 'how long ago' would normally be based upon anecdotal evidence, rather than measurement of a secondary trace, if I understand correctly?

[Slim]

2-4 days. You have an LoR looking for the compounds that signify cocaine usage and while some of the compounds exist in other things(Icecream, cigarettes, etc) it's the combination of compounds and minimum levels of reporting that confirm it's usage. Confirming how much really all depends on how long ago it was taken as the body breaks down and absorbs the chemicals.

In short, you can confirm a positive, you can only tell how much if you know when, and you can only confirm when if you know how much.

Hair follicle test is about 3 months I believe, not entirely sure how that works though or if that can give you a more accurate picture(which they wouldn't have done anyway).

Cheers. So the 'how long ago' would normally be based upon anecdotal evidence, rather than measurement of a secondary trace, if I understand correctly?

There will be some compounds that break down at a standard rate no matter how big you are, what your metabolism is, etc. Then it's just a matter of how much you took.

Don't do that 4th line if you can help it, 3 is more than enough.