Pellegrini Under Pressure Already.

[Beefymcfc]

if we lose in Germany midweek it seems like there's a high probability Pellegrini wont be our manager next season

I'm not sure if he'll be the manager next season anyway, regardless of what he achieves.

[South Stand Balti]

Silva being out and our central defence being new as in playing together in the prem, plus willy being atrocious has brought about this capitulation.
Weds is a huge game lose that and we're looking down the barrel again.
I expect kompany Hart and silva all to be in the team.
No panic button for me yet but come Thurs it'll be itchy finger time!!!

Kompany will not be fit for Wednesday and Silva and Yaya are very serious doubts.

[Original Dub]

if we lose in Germany midweek it seems like there's a high probability Pellegrini wont be our manager next season

Seriously?

yes really. domestic stuff is one thing but the brass and the owner want European success. if we lose our first 2 CL games in this group its going to be very hard to progress. notice, however, that i didn't say that he should be sacked or that he will be.

No but I did notice you just couldn't help yourself and had to put it out there in a round about way.

The opportunity just couldn't pass could it ? You're fooling no one.

He couldn't give a flying fuck about city. But I think you're wrong - he's clearly fooling some people - he's still here isn't he? The cunt leaves these little nuggets in every thread, then fucks off to watch German football and comes back and laughs. Granted, it's a miserable existence, but he's having it his way.

OT If you take away Kompany, Hart, Silva, Toure and Aguero (pretty much), there is very few, if any teams in the world that could roll up to White Hart Lane and come away with a result. These players are the spine of the team, arguably the best in the world in their respective positions and ARE USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER, WEEK IN, WEEK OUT.

Their replacements are pretty good players who are NOT USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER.

How Pellegrini comes into this, I have no idea.

I've questioned him in the past and no doubt I will again, but so far this season, I can probably only blame him for Juve.

[ben the blue]

For all the millions we have spent on players we have always had monkeys in charge go out and get a fucking grade A manager to sort out what the fucking arseholes are doing WITHOUT the ball defensive shape of this team is a fucking abortion we are so EASY to beat its beyond a joke just for the record I have always thought manuel was a clueless fuck wit from the first defeat he oversaw 3-2 to Cardiff a theme runs right through the team in defeat and he hasn't addressed it at all you'd never have believed he was a centre half as a player

[Beefymcfc]

If you take away Kompany, Hart, Silva, Toure and Aguero (pretty much), there is very few, if any teams in the world that could roll up to White Hart Lane and come away with a result. These players are the spine of the team, arguably the best in the world in their respective positions and ARE USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER, WEEK IN, WEEK OUT.

Their replacements are pretty good players who are NOT USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER.

Pretty much spot on there mate.

[Tru_Blu]

So fickle some of you fans are. 3 weeks ago was a whole different song and dance

[nottsblue]

If you take away Kompany, Hart, Silva, Toure and Aguero (pretty much), there is very few, if any teams in the world that could roll up to White Hart Lane and come away with a result. These players are the spine of the team, arguably the best in the world in their respective positions and ARE USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER, WEEK IN, WEEK OUT.

Their replacements are pretty good players who are NOT USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER.

Pretty much spot on there mate.

Echo that.

[Wooders]

I like him but, at the back of my mind, I keep thinking ancellotti is a better manager, and he's out there

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

If you take away Kompany, Hart, Silva, Toure and Aguero (pretty much), there is very few, if any teams in the world that could roll up to White Hart Lane and come away with a result. These players are the spine of the team, arguably the best in the world in their respective positions and ARE USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER, WEEK IN, WEEK OUT.

Their replacements are pretty good players who are NOT USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER.

Pretty much spot on there mate.

Echo that.

And another echo of all these sensible, calmer observations.

If Advocaat, McLaren, Sherwood, Hughes, Rodgers & even Mourinho still have their jobs, then any discussion of Pellegrini losing his job, after setting new City achievement records, is really laughable!

[Hazy2]

Pellers has got to achieve, it is that simple, 3 defeats in Four games and a win at team already down are going to hurt him down the road, shit runs happen, but not as often as last season or he will be fired. For me we have the same problems. In total control, have chance to kill the game. We should had have this game done and dusted, before the the Lino and ref effect matters. The second half was a disgrace, whichever way you look at it. Concerned blue.

[Tesl]

Mind your knees lads, you'll get an early onset of arthritis with reactions like this.

Exactly. This is a ridiculous and embarrassing thread. If other teams fans come and read through here to see how City fans are feeling, they will think we are a right bunch of cunts. And at least for half the people in this thread, they would be right.

3 losses in 4, however against Juventus we were the better side and were unlucky to lose. Against West Ham we absolutely battered them for 45 minutes and it was a freak result. Today we were the better side and playing well, until we concede a goal that was wayyy offside and I guess they lost their heads. The second 45 was obviously pretty awful, I couldn't even watch until the end. But otherwise we've been playing fine, even if not quite as electric as when we started. Losing half the team to injury contributes to that no doubt. Debating whether Pelligrini is at risk of losing his job is insanity.

What makes things look worse is that, despite being terrible, United have somehow obtained enough points to be ahead of us. Which feels unbelievable but here we are. Fortunately Chelsea (who are our real competition this year) just failed to win again and still look awful, so it's really up to us. We are ten times the side United are and if we can't finish ahead of them over 38 games then we'll have got exactly what we deserved.

[Original Dub]

I like him but, at the back of my mind, I keep thinking ancellotti is a better manager, and he's out there

Since ancellotti left Milan, it seems that he is a novelty manager in that he wins in his first season or two and then when things go stale he's gone.

Pellegrini won the double in his first season and then had a difficult season. If we win the league or a couple of cups this season, we should hang on to him for years imo.

It's a true test of a manager to drag the team back to winning after the novelty has gone.

If we win fuck all, go for pep.

[Beefymcfc]

What has to be remembered is that we are trying to integrate a couple of key young players who have now been thrown to the fore, having to do it without the players so were supposed to integrate them.

[sheblue]

No need to hit the panic button yet.

[PrezIke]

If you take away Kompany, Hart, Silva, Toure and Aguero (pretty much), there is very few, if any teams in the world that could roll up to White Hart Lane and come away with a result. These players are the spine of the team, arguably the best in the world in their respective positions and ARE USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER, WEEK IN, WEEK OUT.

Their replacements are pretty good players who are NOT USED TO PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER.

Pretty much spot on there mate.

Echo that.

And another echo of all these sensible, calmer observations.

If Advocaat, McLaren, Sherwood, Hughes, Rodgers & even Mourinho still have their jobs, then any discussion of Pellegrini losing his job, after setting new City achievement records, is really laughable!

I hear you, but it also sounds like some here won't allow for any possibility that Pelle might be facing some pressure at all if we do not win this week.

I happen to think that's a bit naive, or overly hopeful, but in the end we shall see. If we win it will drop a bit, and help if we can get some players back.

I like Pellegrini quite a bit and have backed him throughout his tenure, but while the injuries do hurt team cohesion, not everything can purely be explained by this, don't you think?

I think it's a bit unfair to some here raising points of concern to act like their is stupid panic. The season is long, yes, but the expectations for us are not the same as other clubs, nor the reputation as with others you listed. I am patient, but can you blame folks for exhibiting some frustration? I don't think so.

Last year we finished 2nd, but just like being 2nd now to Utd (!?!), the league position came after great runs mixed with too many poor performances. Last year's performance was not something anyone will go around saying was a season that met expectations, even close. Again, we had a nice run at the end of the season, which we carried on to start this one, but some of the same problems appear to be occurring again, and we seem to struggle to maintain consistency in our intensity.

Fine we had injuries, but that does not excuse the complacency that seems evident at times too often, and we have an even deeper and better squad. How would other top managers do with this same team, probably the best in the league, even when we get some key injuries.

Basically, we can't seem to beat better teams without Silva or Kompany in the team or Aguero scoring. Problem is they are oft injured so we have to find a way to win games that we are capable of winning when they are out if we want. We played well against West Ham, and against Sunderland so it's not the end all be all, but does not seem like something to just assume is irrelevant either.

P.S. If i were at a game I would be cheering the team on regardless of what I write here.

[Beefymcfc]

I'm expecting big things on wednesday

[Hutch's Shoulder]

It’s been a strange start to the season so far. We looked excellent for the first four games, but in truth our form has not been as good since then, and September will have to go down as a disappointing month.

Things to concern us:

• The defence no longer looks so watertight, although in truth before today we have mainly been the victim of some excellent goals scored, and while superhuman efforts could have cut out several of them, there was no really calamitous defending – until today
  After a good first 3 games, Goal scoring could be an Achilles heel – Aguero looks anything but sharp, Bony and Sterling look like 1 in 4 or 5 strikers rather than the 1 in 3 that we need
  That single-minded focus that the team displayed in August seems to have been lost since the other competitions kicked in
  The spine of our team is once again suffering injury at the same time with Hart, Kompany, Silva and now Yaya all injured at the same time

On the plus side:

• While the recent results have been disappointing, none has seriously altered the chances of us progressing in any competition, so we have lots of time to recover
  There hasn’t been one game where we have been poor throughout, maybe a couple of poor halves, and some dodgy other moments, but nothing to suggest a complete loss of cohesion
  KDB looks a great addition
  Chelsea have totally failed to take advantage of our slip

Specifically in response to the OP point about runs of losses, I had noticed this before and it always seems to be during the periods when we are in a run of two games per week in multiple competitions. Our run of record wins at the end of last season and the start of this was when we were basically only competing in the PL and mostly on a one game per week basis. There is no evidence that the multiple competitions is directly a cause, but it seems reasonable to suppose that, combined with a run of injuries, it does mean the team find it difficult to retain the same level of focus. I don’t think MP struggles to motivate though in this situation, and the excellent first half today. If we get back to taking it one game at a time, we have the chance to rebuild our position over the next few weeks.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Cunts

[gillie]

Crap performance today absolutely stupid fuckin thread posted post match.

[Tim777]

It’s been a strange start to the season so far. We looked excellent for the first four games, but in truth our form has not been as good since then, and September will have to go down as a disappointing month.

Things to concern us:

• The defence no longer looks so watertight, although in truth before today we have mainly been the victim of some excellent goals scored, and while superhuman efforts could have cut out several of them, there was no really calamitous defending – until today
  After a good first 3 games, Goal scoring could be an Achilles heel – Aguero looks anything but sharp, Bony and Sterling look like 1 in 4 or 5 strikers rather than the 1 in 3 that we need
  That single-minded focus that the team displayed in August seems to have been lost since the other competitions kicked in
  The spine of our team is once again suffering injury at the same time with Hart, Kompany, Silva and now Yaya all injured at the same time

On the plus side:

• While the recent results have been disappointing, none has seriously altered the chances of us progressing in any competition, so we have lots of time to recover
  There hasn’t been one game where we have been poor throughout, maybe a couple of poor halves, and some dodgy other moments, but nothing to suggest a complete loss of cohesion
  KDB looks a great addition
  Chelsea have totally failed to take advantage of our slip

Specifically in response to the OP point about runs of losses, I had noticed this before and it always seems to be during the periods when we are in a run of two games per week in multiple competitions. Our run of record wins at the end of last season and the start of this was when we were basically only competing in the PL and mostly on a one game per week basis. There is no evidence that the multiple competitions is directly a cause, but it seems reasonable to suppose that, combined with a run of injuries, it does mean the team find it difficult to retain the same level of focus. I don’t think MP struggles to motivate though in this situation, and the excellent first half today. If we get back to taking it one game at a time, we have the chance to rebuild our position over the next few weeks.

Ace post, HS. Basically sums it all up.

So the honeymoon is over, We are gutted right now.
We can look at various reasons as to why we have faltered.
To varying degrees, the knobhead officials, injuries, run of games, Pellegrini's tactics, players who have turned up as holograms, etc etc, but let's hope that all and sundry can get fixed before we completely reverse what we achieved in our first four games. Let's have faith that, in a way, these issues perhaps needed to happen in order for them to be ironed out because we still have a long season ahead of us.
In the case of the knobhead officials, hopefully it could happen in a more literal sense.