Clattenburg ref for Derby

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Seems that we've got 2 of the 3 that refereed our last game against Spurs. Collins, who definitely goit it wrong, has the gig again.

Nearly every time that City has lost or drawn, with Clat reffing, the assistant refs have usually been Simon Beck & Jake Collin. For the upcoming derby, the 1st assistant is Jake Collin & the 2nd is Richard West. So, it seems that ASSistants Simon Beck & Jake Collin don't want City to win matches, or the league.

[Beefymcfc]

Seems that we've got 2 of the 3 that refereed our last game against Spurs. Collins, who definitely goit it wrong, has the gig again.

Nearly every time that City has lost or drawn, with Clat reffing, the assistant refs have usually been Simon Beck & Jake Collin. For the upcoming derby, the 1st assistant is Jake Collin & the 2nd is Richard West. So, it seems that ASSistants Simon Beck & Jake Collin don't want City to win matches, or the league.

'Direction', is the word of the day ;-)

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Seems that we've got 2 of the 3 that refereed our last game against Spurs. Collins, who definitely goit it wrong, has the gig again.

Nearly every time that City has lost or drawn, with Clat reffing, the assistant refs have usually been Simon Beck & Jake Collin. For the upcoming derby, the 1st assistant is Jake Collin & the 2nd is Richard West. So, it seems that ASSistants Simon Beck & Jake Collin don't want City to win matches, or the league.

'Direction', is the word of the day ;-)

It makes me pray for miracles, that City can score so many goals, that Clat & his One Direction group can't possibly screw us over!

[Im_Spartacus]

Hasnt there been worry about him for prior matches (derbies included) and hes been fine, barring sketchy linesmen?

He has been to an extent, but last years Derby had signs of what I can only call 'Misguided Judgement'.

He was the ref for the 1-6 Derby a few years back. His reward for that was to be banished from refine United games for a full year. In his first game back on united' steam sheet after learning his lesson, when Chelsea went 2.0 up and the rags were dead and buried, who can forget that he sent two of their players off effectivelly setting the scene for Ferguson's final league title that year.

Personally I think he's a decent ref, but there is substantial evidence from bizarre decisions that no referee on the straight and narrow would give, that he does as he's told, or perhaps more accurately, does as he knows it's in his best career interest. Interesting though, that in Mark Halsey's book, Clattenburg was portrayed as one of the good guys, not kow towing to Mike Riley.

[Beefymcfc]

Wait a minute, another one seemingly not getting the Rags gig because he over seen a defeat? If that's correct, and I have no doubt, that goes to say that the orders definitely come from above.

[gillie]

Seems that we've got 2 of the 3 that refereed our last game against Spurs. Collins, who definitely goit it wrong, has the gig again.

Is that collins the Mr Magoo cunt who could not see Walker yards offside even though he was less than 10 yards away from him.

[Beefymcfc]

Seems that we've got 2 of the 3 that refereed our last game against Spurs. Collins, who definitely goit it wrong, has the gig again.

Is that collins the Mr Magoo cunt who could not see Walker yards offside even though he was less than 10 yards away from him.

No, that was Beck. Collins is the one who missed Kane being offside for the rebound off the crossbar. Only 2 of them were offside at the time.

[walmai]

Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.

Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.

Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.

You've summed up City's predicament with Clattenburg's questionable reffing perfectly... and that doesn't include all the other times that Clattenburg has purposely broken PGMOL's own code of conduct.

Look at today's La Liga ref scandal & it's a clear signal that digital technology is the only answer, to help football refereeing integrity & honesty. The Premier League & all intl. matches need video replays, for all calls that are not based on opinion, as well as major disputed or controversial calls.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.

You've summed up City's predicament with Clattenburg's questionable reffing perfectly... and that doesn't include all the other times that Clattenburg has purposely broken PGMOL's own code of conduct.

Look at today's La Liga ref scandal & it's a clear signal that digital technology is the only answer, to help football refereeing integrity & honesty. The Premier League & all intl. matches need video replays, for all calls that are not based on opinion, as well as major disputed or controversial calls.

Spot on. We won't see technology to the extent it's needed as it stops corruption, and those that run football are corrupt so won't introduce it.

[WhyAlwaysMe?]

Spot on. We won't see technology to the extent it's needed as it stops corruption, and those that run football are corrupt so won't introduce it.

Yes, our only hope of ousting the corrupt officials & introducing accurate technology, is to take advantage of all these current corruption investigations... Also, the clubs & fans need to demand these changes. It will be a long-term, uphill battle to get any changes made in football, though...
I'd feel much better, if I knew that someone with your concerns, was running the FA!

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Spot on. We won't see technology to the extent it's needed as it stops corruption, and those that run football are corrupt so won't introduce it.

Yes, our only hope of ousting the corrupt officials & introducing accurate technology, is to take advantage of all these current corruption investigations... Also, the clubs & fans need to demand these changes. It will be a long-term, uphill battle to get any changes made in football, though...
I'd feel much better, if I knew that someone with your concerns, was running the FA!

What, instead of Roland Rat? Never! And let's not forget that the guy currently running the FA openly declared his preference for the dippers winning the league than our good selves. Blatant.

[Im_Spartacus]

Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.

Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.

And the game we won 6-1 with Evans sent off, which put us on course to run away with the title?

Was that just an accident?

[Mase]

Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.

Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.

And the game we won 6-1 with Evans sent off?

Was that just an accident?

He's just given you a handful of incidents and you've mentioned one where we totally outclassed and dominated a team whilst he was refereeing. Was it mentioned that after that match he wasn't allowed to referee a rag match for quite some time. Do you think that will play on his mind during the match tomorrow?

[Im_Spartacus]

Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.

Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.

And the game we won 6-1 with Evans sent off?

Was that just an accident?

He's just given you a handful of incidents and you've mentioned one where we totally outclassed and dominated a team whilst he was refereeing. Was it mentioned that after that match he wasn't allowed to referee a rag match for quite some time. Do you think that will play on his mind during the match tomorrow?

I mentioned his subsequent 'ban' after the 1-6 and what he did in his first game back earlier in the thread.

We could all line up dozens of incidents from every ref, for and against every club. I think he's one of the better refs, though was 100% certainly 'punished' for reffing the 1-6, and he 100% made 'amends' when he was allowed to.

I still maintain that refs aren't fundamentally bent or instructed in a certain way, but that they gain an unspoken understanding of what is required for their career to progress, and in that way they and their bosses (despite having a mutual understanding on what is required) can never be accused of corruption

To me all that shows is that every ref knows what side their bread is buttered on, and it's obvious that the refs who don't toe the line get fucked over by pgmol. That applies as much to Clattenburg as any other ref.

Ultimately, what ref is gonna risk his whole career going against the establishment. The ones that do, will have no career

[Tokyo Blue]

Spot on. We won't see technology to the extent it's needed as it stops corruption, and those that run football are corrupt so won't introduce it.

Yes, our only hope of ousting the corrupt officials & introducing accurate technology, is to take advantage of all these current corruption investigations... Also, the clubs & fans need to demand these changes. It will be a long-term, uphill battle to get any changes made in football, though...
I'd feel much better, if I knew that someone with your concerns, was running the FA!

What, instead of Roland Rat? Never! And let's not forget that the guy currently running the FA openly declared his preference for the dippers winning the league than our good selves. Blatant.

Worse, anyone winning the league is better than us apparently because City winning the league would be "a disaster for English football". I do not recall him elaborating on exactly why this should be the case, nor do I recall any journalist asking him why this should be the case. And this is the head of the FA talking two days before the final game of the season, remember.

And some of you think it is all honest and above board? You're in fucking cloud cuckoo land. The FA and uefa are two cheeks of the same purulent, boil-infested arse.

I can see us getting seriously fucking cheated in this derby match today. I just hope the geordie tosser gets things right.

[Beefymcfc]

I've already got Ref Watch prep'd mate.

[phips]

i thought he had a pretty good match. maybe even slightly favored us with that Sterling possible pen.

[mr_nool]

He was OK. Certainly didn't favour us, but seemed fairly unbiased today.