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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby patrickblue » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:23 pm

roblues wrote:
City64 wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:How long is Yaya out for? I was under the impression Fernando is injured too?

Think Yaya has around another stone to shed the fat cunt , might see him after Chrimbo !


Maybe Kolo advised him to try speed


He did, but Yaya misunderstood.

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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby blues2win » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:57 pm

I think Nacho will replace Nasri in the CL squad which will be a considerable encouragement to a 19 year kid. He could well get some minutes on Saturday too.

I don't think we'll miss Yaya on Saturday. Not his sort of match. I'd go for Delph and the two Ferns in central midfield so that we match Stoke physically. Obviously the odds of us topping the CL group aren't great but they're far from nil. Nonetheless we must go all out for 3 points on Saturday and then take care of business in midweek.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby City64 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:05 pm

blues2win wrote:I think Nacho will replace Nasri in the CL squad which will be a considerable encouragement to a 19 year kid. He could well get some minutes on Saturday too.

I don't think we'll miss Yaya on Saturday. Not his sort of match. I'd go for Delph and the two Ferns in central midfield so that we match Stoke physically. Obviously the odds of us topping the CL group aren't great but they're far from nil. Nonetheless we must go all out for 3 points on Saturday and then take care of business in midweek.

Agree about our central midfield . I wonder if Pellegrini has finally opened his eyes to the idea we need more pace and runners in the midfield after the Liverpool annihilation ? I'm not writing Yaya off just yet but maybe just maybe Pellegrini has found a system that doesn't need Yaya ?
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Blue Since 76 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:07 pm

I'd actually start with Bony. I'm not a fan of what I've seen so far and I do like the look of Iheanacho, however, I'm not sure he's ready to start yet. Away from home, first 15 means keeping it tight and not letting Stoke get any chances. Then build on it and use Bony as the battering ram. Bringing on options from Sterling, Navas and Iheanacho should give their defence something to think about over the last 30 minutes, especially if there's some on yellows.

The alternative is starting Iheanacho and if it doesn't work having to turn to Bony...
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Mase » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:15 pm

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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby South Stand Balti » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:17 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

That's the team I would pick but I think Pellers prefers to surrender the midfield. I can see Fern 2 missing out and Sterling starting. I hope not as I think that would lead to a pretty shitty start to the weekend. We will see just how important Yaya is tomorrow.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:27 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

That's the team I would pick but I think Pellers prefers to surrender the midfield. I can see Fern 2 missing out and Sterling starting. I hope not as I think that would lead to a pretty shitty start to the weekend. We will see just how important Yaya is tomorrow.


Why would that be surrendering the midfield? Surely whoever is playing in the hole can make up the numbers in the centre of the pitch when we're out of possession?
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Original Dub » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:39 pm

I'm not worried about yaya being out and I'm a lot more confident with dave and de Bruyne together.

They'll serve up enough chances for bony or nacho to gobble up.

It's how well the ferns protect that back four that will make the difference imo.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Camebro » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:44 pm

With a chumps league game up with bony the only fit striker I don't think it's inconceivable that nacho will start.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby PrezIke » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:48 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
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Nigels Tackle wrote:.
ian nacho to start up top.


Well i think we may be dissapointed as Bony has interview on OS about being up for the challenge........

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obvious that pony will get the nod but that doesn't stop me from saying that i would like to see ian there in his place


You and most City fans but I just don't see Pellers having the bottle for that. We might have to hold out till he comes on.


It's not just about having the bottle, is it? If Bony was to be dropped in favour of the kid then it could have an adverse effect, Bony could throw in the towel like Dzeko did last season which will effectively leave us a striker short for the remainder of the season. Keeping Iheanacho humble could also factor into his thinking, he's nurtured the likes of Cazorla and Isco in the past so I trust he knows what he's doing.


I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but this is the same storyline with a lot of us sport fans versus being a manager of a the first team of s club like ours. We tend to lean toward loving to see young players get a chance when there is a seemingly legitimate challenge for someone's place a team. Even as enlightened as we may be, and I don't want to insult anyone as I have immense respect for many posters here (Doug, you, in this case) but as I have my own biases, I have seen this same pattern played out regularly from fans of other teams in other sports.

Being a manager of multimillionaire athletes is a very difficult job that involves carefully balancing man management with the needs of the club and your own personal ambitions and survival. If a player you invest fairly heavily in as a replacement for someone you just shipped out and is a veteran with a good track record what message does it send to players to drop them just now? This is after they have scored 5 goals in 8 games and has had the worst string of luck with health in their career right after joining and previously performing at his best and now entering his prime years.

We are top of the league and Aguero is a constant worry to become injured for periods of time. Sterling is not as reliable and I am excited about nacho but we cannot mess around like that just yet. Destroying Bony's confidence, which is already fragile now I suspect, is doing us no good when we are also finally getting silva and kdb fit.

I'm not questioning fans' concerns too strongly as yes he needs to improve but I'm not so sure dropping him now is a good idea when kun is about to come back again and we need unity in the squad to make it through the season. We will need bony too and if he still struggles Nacho will maybe get more chances. He is the future of the club and we are not utd and need to rely on a teenager to find ways to score.

I respect the idea that Nacho's form has been more consistent but his lack of experience and needs to manage the team carefully weigh more than the risk of starting him over Bony just yet.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby South Stand Balti » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:04 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

That's the team I would pick but I think Pellers prefers to surrender the midfield. I can see Fern 2 missing out and Sterling starting. I hope not as I think that would lead to a pretty shitty start to the weekend. We will see just how important Yaya is tomorrow.


Why would that be surrendering the midfield? Surely whoever is playing in the hole can make up the numbers in the centre of the pitch when we're out of possession?

I think Stoke will play an extra man (or two) in central midfield and we lose control of he game. The dippers did that, and we suffered last season because of that. When super Frank started each of the last 6 games last season, putting an extra body in centre mid, we won every game.That followed a terrible run with just 2 in the centre.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:09 pm

Nacho doesn't look too convincing as a lone striker.
So how about surprising these fuckers with a back four, Delph and Fern 1 and a front four of Ian, Bony, Big Dave and Kev.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:16 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

That's the team I would pick but I think Pellers prefers to surrender the midfield. I can see Fern 2 missing out and Sterling starting. I hope not as I think that would lead to a pretty shitty start to the weekend. We will see just how important Yaya is tomorrow.


Why would that be surrendering the midfield? Surely whoever is playing in the hole can make up the numbers in the centre of the pitch when we're out of possession?

I think Stoke will play an extra man (or two) in central midfield and we lose control of he game. The dippers did that, and we suffered last season because of that. When super Frank started each of the last 6 games last season, putting an extra body in centre mid, we won every game.That followed a terrible run with just 2 in the centre.


Why not Silva filling Lampard's role then? Or DeBruyne even?
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:21 pm

Do we have to tell the world about our injuries prior to the game? Hughes will be seeing his stall to taget Demi, after his last run out.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby South Stand Balti » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:25 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

That's the team I would pick but I think Pellers prefers to surrender the midfield. I can see Fern 2 missing out and Sterling starting. I hope not as I think that would lead to a pretty shitty start to the weekend. We will see just how important Yaya is tomorrow.


Why would that be surrendering the midfield? Surely whoever is playing in the hole can make up the numbers in the centre of the pitch when we're out of possession?

I think Stoke will play an extra man (or two) in central midfield and we lose control of he game. The dippers did that, and we suffered last season because of that. When super Frank started each of the last 6 games last season, putting an extra body in centre mid, we won every game.That followed a terrible run with just 2 in the centre.


Why not Silva filling Lampard's role then? Or DeBruyne even?

They are naturally offensive. They don't track midfield runners and tackle and drop back when needed. We can't do that against a team like Stoke.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:52 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:They are naturally offensive. They don't track midfield runners and tackle and drop back when needed. We can't do that against a team like Stoke.


I don't believe them being naturally offensive should excuse them from defensive responsibility.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby South Stand Balti » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:00 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:They are naturally offensive. They don't track midfield runners and tackle and drop back when needed. We can't do that against a team like Stoke.


I don't believe them being naturally offensive should excuse them from defensive responsibility.

I'm not saying they should not have responsibility. I'm just saying they don't do it.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby london blue 2 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:36 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

Yeah. Although we will probably see willy in for hart.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby Mase » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:01 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:Hart
Sagna MDM Otter Cliché
Fred2
Fred1 - Delph
Brown - - - Silva
Boner


Maybe?

Yeah. Although we will probably see willy in for hart.


Why would Kolarov not play after scoring and having a decent match in our last game? This rotating of the full backs is part of the reason everything went wrong with Bobby.
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Re: Mixed Team News for tomorrow

Postby mr_nool » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:03 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I think he does know what he is doing but the idea that Bony might throw the towel in I just don't buy. At times he already looks like he has thrown the towel in so he can't get much worse. That's a bit hars I know and I have some time for Bony but I am looking at the current situation only and we need 3 points and imo Bony up front isn't the best way to get them.

Having said that if we defend well the the top 4 players get it right we will win anyway.


Doug, I respect your views on football a lot and usually agree with you, but I think you are way too harsh on Bony. He might not be great for our possession game when we're playing teams that Park the bus (too immobile), but he's a fantastic target player and links up very well with the other forwards if he gets the ball with the goal against his back. He definitely brings us something we've been missing. It's just too bad he has to be used as a replacement of Aguero instead of a compliment to him, because of Kun's injuries.
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