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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Mase » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:17 pm

PrezIke wrote:And those saying Bernardo should be played in his position to defend him argument...

ummm...

How about Sterling as well??

All of these arguments are flawed and some of us don't want to admit anything ever or acknowledge being wrong or anything other than yell at everyone and blame anyone who disagrees as a blind fool.


I hear you and I agree that Sterling is far better on the right, his actual position. The 100 points season where he was played on the right he was class. He was moved to the left to force Mahrez in to the team and Sterling has been stuck there ever since.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby nottsblue » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:51 pm

Bernado has been poor for about a year now. Whether he hasn’t had enough game time, or whether he’s not being played in his preferred position, which I gather is wide right, or whether he has had a falling out with Pep, or whether he is missing home, or whether he is carrying niggling injuries, no one knows.

But he certainly hasn’t replicated his superb form of 2018/19. Was that the exception to the rule? I don’t believe so. I think he still is and can be a very influential player. He looks lost sometimes as if he isn’t sure of his role in the team.

It’s very disappointing as I truly thought he would have been a direct replacement for David Silva and it just hasn’t worked out that way. Maybe it’s the team selection. A midfield containing Gundogan and Rodri as defensive cover rather than Fernandinho is going to hamper our creativity. Hopefully a more settled defensive line means one of Rodri or Gundogan makes way and maybe Foden and Bernado can dovetail together the way he used to with Merlin.

But whatever the reasons for his form substantially dropping, he and the coaching staff need to fix it
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Nick » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:30 pm

Hes not missing home


And hes better in the middle. He was quality Thursday?
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Outcast » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:03 pm

nottsblue wrote:Bernado has been poor for about a year now. Whether he hasn’t had enough game time, or whether he’s not being played in his preferred position, which I gather is wide right, or whether he has had a falling out with Pep, or whether he is missing home, or whether he is carrying niggling injuries, no one knows.

But he certainly hasn’t replicated his superb form of 2018/19. Was that the exception to the rule? I don’t believe so. I think he still is and can be a very influential player. He looks lost sometimes as if he isn’t sure of his role in the team.

It’s very disappointing as I truly thought he would have been a direct replacement for David Silva and it just hasn’t worked out that way. Maybe it’s the team selection. A midfield containing Gundogan and Rodri as defensive cover rather than Fernandinho is going to hamper our creativity. Hopefully a more settled defensive line means one of Rodri or Gundogan makes way and maybe Foden and Bernado can dovetail together the way he used to with Merlin.

But whatever the reasons for his form substantially dropping, he and the coaching staff need to fix it


Doesn't help when Pep keeps tinkering, sometimes all it needs is going back to basics
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby PrezIke » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:54 pm

Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:And those saying Bernardo should be played in his position to defend him argument...

ummm...

How about Sterling as well??

All of these arguments are flawed and some of us don't want to admit anything ever or acknowledge being wrong or anything other than yell at everyone and blame anyone who disagrees as a blind fool.


I hear you and I agree that Sterling is far better on the right, his actual position. The 100 points season where he was played on the right he was class. He was moved to the left to force Mahrez in to the team and Sterling has been stuck there ever since.


I did mean how the performances most go after him are when he's a striker/false nine.

On the left he's been fantastic mate. He hasn't played on the right mainly in years.

Last season he had a ridiculous amount of goals...NOT ALL TAP INS....on the left.

He is so much improved with shooting but I do agree he can muff up one on ones at times.

TBF in the last game against West Ham IT WAS HIS FIRST TOUCH NOT HIS ONE ON ONE SHOOTING THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.

He has scored more than a few from outside of the box, but yes with one on one breaks he isn't the best, but that isn't happening so often anyway.

Actually I don't think a single player is on our team.

Ebven Aguero has muffed them up because he doesn't have the pace anymore.

I too dream of a Haaland who i saw score a fantastic goal from a 1 2 with Sancho over the weekend, or Mbappe.

Mahrez another one who doesn't have the pace.

Foden is our best one on one player with pace on evidence that I am seeing thus far (that includes Jesus...Delap only had 1 goal so not enough data).
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:56 pm

But his natural position is on the right, where he’s best as we saw in the 100 season.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Nick » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:19 am

Mase wrote:But his natural position is on the right, where he’s best as we saw in the 100 season.


Disagree. He isnt a winger. His best games (bar a few) have been in the middle for me. Hes wasted out wide.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Nick » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:34 pm

Sterling looked much better on the right tonight, I thought.

Although years ago I preferred him on the left
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:27 pm

Bernardo back to 'nearly' his best, I thought - playing a false 9, if I am not mistaken, and the last time he played a false 9 (Cup Game)he was brilliant.

What baldie needs to do is to give him a run of games now (Which he wont do as hes not Rodri) and I think we will see a more consistent Bernardo.

I thought Id put this comment in whilst I am at it as I still cannot for the life of me understand why Baldie persists with these 2 players in every fuckign set up he can manage to put them.

''City just don't press the ball like they once did and Rodri and Ilkay Gundogan don't provide stability and dominance. Time and again, Oriel Romeu and James Ward-Prowse were able to pass through them. Another day, with a full 90 minutes from Danny Ings, maybe Southampton would have exposed them not just tactically but in the score-line as well.''
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby salford city » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Bernardo back to 'nearly' his best, I thought - playing a false 9, if I am not mistaken, and the last time he played a false 9 (Cup Game)he was brilliant.

What baldie needs to do is to give him a run of games now (Which he wont do as hes not Rodri) and I think we will see a more consistent Bernardo.

I thought Id put this comment in whilst I am at it as I still cannot for the life of me understand why Baldie persists with these 2 players in every fuckign set up he can manage to put them.

''City just don't press the ball like they once did and Rodri and Ilkay Gundogan don't provide stability and dominance. Time and again, Oriel Romeu and James Ward-Prowse were able to pass through them. Another day, with a full 90 minutes from Danny Ings, maybe Southampton would have exposed them not just tactically but in the score-line as well.''


Thought Bernie was on it yesterday which is promising though agree that it is unlimely to manifest itself in a run of games for him alrhough arsenal is Tuesday so he may get that if gabs is still out? Think everyone agrees on the midfield dynamic duo not working - everyone that is apart from the one who counts. Was prepared to give Rodri more time but he is nowhere near the level he needs to be to play a part in this team and it seems that we are having to play the two of them to perform the role played for so long by Fern? Probably says more about Fern than the pair of them. Cannit agree with the Ings comment - was i happy he went off - yes, but to try and make out they ^may^ have gitten something if he had stayed on is almost the same.as saying he may have gotten a couple in a game that IF we had put our chances away, his team could have llost 4 or 5 -2. All that said, Ings would do well for us if he ciuld stay fit
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:43 am

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carl_feedthegoat wrote:Bernardo back to 'nearly' his best, I thought - playing a false 9, if I am not mistaken, and the last time he played a false 9 (Cup Game)he was brilliant.

What baldie needs to do is to give him a run of games now (Which he wont do as hes not Rodri) and I think we will see a more consistent Bernardo.

I thought Id put this comment in whilst I am at it as I still cannot for the life of me understand why Baldie persists with these 2 players in every fuckign set up he can manage to put them.

''City just don't press the ball like they once did and Rodri and Ilkay Gundogan don't provide stability and dominance. Time and again, Oriel Romeu and James Ward-Prowse were able to pass through them. Another day, with a full 90 minutes from Danny Ings, maybe Southampton would have exposed them not just tactically but in the score-line as well.''


Thought Bernie was on it yesterday which is promising though agree that it is unlimely to manifest itself in a run of games for him alrhough arsenal is Tuesday so he may get that if gabs is still out? Think everyone agrees on the midfield dynamic duo not working - everyone that is apart from the one who counts. Was prepared to give Rodri more time but he is nowhere near the level he needs to be to play a part in this team and it seems that we are having to play the two of them to perform the role played for so long by Fern? Probably says more about Fern than the pair of them. Cannit agree with the Ings comment - was i happy he went off - yes, but to try and make out they ^may^ have gitten something if he had stayed on is almost the same.as saying he may have gotten a couple in a game that IF we had put our chances away, his team could have llost 4 or 5 -2. All that said, Ings would do well for us if he ciuld stay fit


False 9 let’s get a 9 who burries chances from 6 yards out. Bernie full of beans, more like it, could have had 2, a proper forward transforms us. 5-0
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:27 am

bernardo is everything that is wrong with the club right now. really neat and tidy but fuck all end product.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:23 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:bernardo is everything that is wrong with the club right now. really neat and tidy but fuck all end product.


Spot on.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby salford city » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:01 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:bernardo is everything that is wrong with the club right now. really neat and tidy but fuck all end product.


Spot on.


Think we are all in agreement. Sergio may put the majority away but we are not goung to be able to get 2 games a week from him- he will be a bit part player if we can get him back on rhe pitch so that still doesn't solve the issue
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:39 pm

salford city wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:bernardo is everything that is wrong with the club right now. really neat and tidy but fuck all end product.


Spot on.


Think we are all in agreement. Sergio may put the majority away but we are not goung to be able to get 2 games a week from him- he will be a bit part player if we can get him back on rhe pitch so that still doesn't solve the issue


If your thought process is to pass 6 yards out, this has been the case with many including David. It might explain why we are shit at Penalties. I have said it before we take our chances the games are a canter and 1 or 2 becomes 5. Our play is great we just cannot finish for toffee as it stands.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Wooders » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:07 pm

I felt he was poor yesterday - played in his favoured position and created very little - the passing sideways to a marked player when he had an open goal beggared belief
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby Bluedj » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:39 pm

I thought Bernie had a great game apart from the 2 Fluffs in the box. He was everywhere on the pitch and chased everything down liked well with Kev for the goal
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:21 pm

Bluedj wrote:I thought Bernie had a great game apart from the 2 Fluffs in the box. He was everywhere on the pitch and chased everything down liked well with Kev for the goal


That's how I saw it as well - he needs a run of games and for him to carry on playing in that role.

Rodri and Cencelo need dropping..Rodri especially as we will not win a cunting thing with this current starting 11.
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Re: Bernardo & singling players out

Postby PeterParker » Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:38 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Bluedj wrote:I thought Bernie had a great game apart from the 2 Fluffs in the box. He was everywhere on the pitch and chased everything down liked well with Kev for the goal


That's how I saw it as well - he needs a run of games and for him to carry on playing in that role.

Rodri and Cencelo need dropping..Rodri especially as we will not win a cunting thing with this current starting 11.


I don't agree with Cancelo.
I think he is doing an ok job on a position he has to play on, not his usual, because Bendy is a calamity while Zinch ... is he still alive?

Same as Danilo, he needs to save a situation.
And rodri doesn't need dropping, he needs the exit door and cash in and actually, bring someone who doesn't actually turn like a bus in an intersection.
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