Statement on Historic Child Sex Abuse at MCFC

[carl_feedthegoat]

Sparty,
I agree with all you say Mate and I agree that City have to protect the brand too.

But, maybe it's because I'm old but it seems to be something that is a new thing...apologising for the faults of other people.
I agree that City should do what they are doing and am proud that they have done so, but by apologising for something that is not their crime, I feel that they also attach themselves to those crimes.

A hateful media could make mileage out of this, "If you're not involved, what you saying sorry for?

In total agreement.

[Harry Dowd scored]

Sparty,
I agree with all you say Mate and I agree that City have to protect the brand too.

But, maybe it's because I'm old but it seems to be something that is a new thing...apologising for the faults of other people.
I agree that City should do what they are doing and am proud that they have done so, but by apologising for something that is not their crime, I feel that they also attach themselves to those crimes.

A hateful media could make mileage out of this, "If you're not involved, what you saying sorry for?

In total agreement.

Whilst I agree with the above, there are precedents for organisations/administrations apologising for previous regimes, I remember David Cameron apologising on behalf of the U.K. government for “Bloody Sunday” which happened in the 1970’s so therefore a apology does not necessarily mean the current regime is responsible.

[BlueinBosnia]

Sparty,
I agree with all you say Mate and I agree that City have to protect the brand too.

But, maybe it's because I'm old but it seems to be something that is a new thing...apologising for the faults of other people.
I agree that City should do what they are doing and am proud that they have done so, but by apologising for something that is not their crime, I feel that they also attach themselves to those crimes.

A hateful media could make mileage out of this, "If you're not involved, what you saying sorry for?

In total agreement.

Whilst I agree with the above, there are precedents for organisations/administrations apologising for previous regimes, I remember David Cameron apologising on behalf of the U.K. government for “Bloody Sunday” which happened in the 1970’s so therefore a apology does not necessarily mean the current regime is responsible.

France also apologized for sinking Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior quite a few years after it happened, if I remember correctly - their only naval victory of the 20th century.

[Mase]

Germany still apologising for WW2?

[Bluemoon4610]

Germany still apologising for WW2?

Sod Germany, I'm still waiting for an apology from the Scandinavians for all that pillaging and raping. Bloody Vikings!!!

[Mase]

Germany still apologising for WW2?

Sod Germany, I'm still waiting for an apology from the Scandinavians for all that pillaging and raping. Bloody Vikings!!!

Some kid at nursery stole a sweet from me. Will try and find them on Facebook and demand an apology.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We can't just cherry pick from our past. These things took place and our coaches knew about this guy and let that shit take place. Apology ia the least we can do. not that it helps anything. Fucking disgusting.

[Im_Spartacus]

Sparty,
I agree with all you say Mate and I agree that City have to protect the brand too.

But, maybe it's because I'm old but it seems to be something that is a new thing...apologising for the faults of other people.
I agree that City should do what they are doing and am proud that they have done so, but by apologising for something that is not their crime, I feel that they also attach themselves to those crimes.

A hateful media could make mileage out of this, "If you're not involved, what you saying sorry for?

In total agreement.

The club owns its history, it owns the successes and failures on the pitch from that era, so it can't really absolve itself for the failures off the pitch even if it was a generation or several generations ago even.

It wouldn't be my natural reaction to apologise for something a parent did 30 years ago, but if it turned out my old man was Harold Shipman, I can still be sorry to the victims families that shit happened without being directly responsible.

Slightly more complex in a corporate case as the corporate body would still be liable if there was to be a civil case, so apologising, showing contrition, investigation and ultimately bunging them some money in a 'support fund' makes it all go away.

[johnny crossan]

....
The club owns its history, it owns the successes and failures on the pitch from that era, so it can't really absolve itself for the failures off the pitch even if it was a generation or several generations ago even....

No it doesn't, nobody does - we are all just part of it.

[Tokyo Blue]

France also apologized for sinking Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior quite a few years after it happened, if I remember correctly - their only naval victory of the 20th century.

[Im_Spartacus]

....
The club owns its history, it owns the successes and failures on the pitch from that era, so it can't really absolve itself for the failures off the pitch even if it was a generation or several generations ago even....

No it doesn't, nobody does - we are all just part of it.

Try making and selling a replica shirt or commemorative items from past successes and see what happens legally if you infringe the club's rights (or more accurately infringe on their revenue). In a corporate and legal sense, the club does own its history.

In simpler terms, the club trades on its history by having stars from 1969 and the 70s as hosts for corporate hospitality (just to give one example), so you can't on the one hand trade on your history for commercial purposes then conveniently absolve yourself of it when something inconvenient from the past comes up.

[johnny crossan]

....
The club owns its history, it owns the successes and failures on the pitch from that era, so it can't really absolve itself for the failures off the pitch even if it was a generation or several generations ago even....

No it doesn't, nobody does - we are all just part of it.

Try making and selling a replica shirt or commemorative items from past successes and see what happens legally if you infringe the club's rights (or more accurately infringe on their revenue). In a corporate and legal sense, the club does own its history.

In simpler terms, the club trades on its history by having stars from 1969 and the 70s as hosts for corporate hospitality (just to give one example), so you can't on the one hand trade on your history for commercial purposes then conveniently absolve yourself of it when something inconvenient from the past comes up.

That's about owning the brand friend, different thing altogether. The idea that a football club or a country for that matter can in any sense own its history, or indeed that it can correct it, are both equally absurd but admittedly fashionable errors promoted largely by lawyers.