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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby CTID Hants » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:36 pm

Nickyboy wrote:All the stuff about him 'not turning up' is just media conjecture isn't it? Not seen anything official from Spurs or Kane on this?

All the press keep saying is that he was supposed to be back on Monday but he hasn't turned up - He probably sneaked in a back door or something to avoid the circus


Precisely THE PRESS.......... I was told the club had fined him for no show, I look for myself & THE PRESS says the club are set to or could fine him NOT THFC, they've said nothing that I can see, Kane & His agent haven't said a word either.

Only direct quotes I have seen was from Old boy Redknapp and all he is saying is "Levy won't budge from the price he has the player valued at, I know the man", THE PRESS then mention £160M in the article so it looks like the £160M is official amount. THFC haven't mentioned a figure that I am aware of.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby City64 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:45 pm

Harry Kane currently still in Florida refusing to return to Spuds and has ruled himself out of the PL opener v erm Man City .
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby patrickblue » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:23 pm

This is like the Sterling saga complete with overtones of leaving a special club to go to mercenary City. All the spuds "legends" will start to be wheeled out shortly.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:13 pm

patrickblue wrote:This is like the Sterling saga complete with overtones of leaving a special club to go to mercenary City. All the spuds "legends" will start to be wheeled out shortly.

If they really dig deep they may unearth one that actually won a trophy :lol:
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby patrickblue » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:35 pm

Bluemoon4610 wrote:
patrickblue wrote:This is like the Sterling saga complete with overtones of leaving a special club to go to mercenary City. All the spuds "legends" will start to be wheeled out shortly.

If they really dig deep they may unearth one that actually won a trophy :lol:


I think they've all died.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby john@staustell » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:06 am

patrickblue wrote:This is like the Sterling saga complete with overtones of leaving a special club to go to mercenary City. All the spuds "legends" will start to be wheeled out shortly.


Paul Robinson has already emerged from his retirement cupboard. Possibly not in the legend category though.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby PeterParker » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:20 am

john@staustell wrote:
patrickblue wrote:This is like the Sterling saga complete with overtones of leaving a special club to go to mercenary City. All the spuds "legends" will start to be wheeled out shortly.


Paul Robinson has already emerged from his retirement cupboard. Possibly not in the legend category though.


Based on his performances he might be legend for other teams when they played spuds :lol:
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby stupot » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:39 am

If we do get Kane as well as Grealish who gets the Number 10 shirt.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby PeterParker » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:09 am

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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby sheblue » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:18 am

stupot wrote:If we do get Kane as well as Grealish who gets the Number 10 shirt.


Well if Jack doesn't get no 10 today.... ;)
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby patrickblue » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:40 am

stupot wrote:If we do get Kane as well as Grealish who gets the Number 10 shirt.


Media's got that one covered

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/08/05/report-manchester-city-choose-successor-for-agueros-no-10-shirt-and-it-isnt-grealish/
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby sheblue » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:58 pm

There will be no move in this any time soon. Can see this going right to the last day which I think is 31 August. We don't do 'deadline' day deals, but I think this could well be the exception.
So quite possibly another 26 of crap talk, lies, and bollocks to come, cant wait.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby Vantage » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:21 pm

I really hope this doesn't go through and we hold off till January - his plastic ankles give me the heeby jeebies...
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby stupot » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:47 pm

On Talksport yesterday they were saying that both Kane and Kev who are both perceived as being injury prone have both played 80% of League games the last 5 years whereas Grealish is 60%. I'm hoping it's just he gets kicked to fuck at Villa and he'll be just one of the main men here.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby nottsblue » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:18 pm

stupot wrote:On Talksport yesterday they were saying that both Kane and Kev who are both perceived as being injury prone have both played 80% of League games the last 5 years whereas Grealish is 60%. I'm hoping it's just he gets kicked to fuck at Villa and he'll be just one of the main men here.

First thing I'd do with Grealish is make him wear shin pads
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:30 pm

nottsblue wrote:
stupot wrote:On Talksport yesterday they were saying that both Kane and Kev who are both perceived as being injury prone have both played 80% of League games the last 5 years whereas Grealish is 60%. I'm hoping it's just he gets kicked to fuck at Villa and he'll be just one of the main men here.

First thing I'd do with Grealish is make him wear shin pads


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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby Mase » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:39 pm

nottsblue wrote:
stupot wrote:On Talksport yesterday they were saying that both Kane and Kev who are both perceived as being injury prone have both played 80% of League games the last 5 years whereas Grealish is 60%. I'm hoping it's just he gets kicked to fuck at Villa and he'll be just one of the main men here.

First thing I'd do with Grealish is make him wear shin pads


I’d make him get two sleeve tattoos.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby PrezIke » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:39 pm

'arry "The Golden Boy" of England, loyal servant to his club, who could do no wrong has magically turned into the baddie who shall not be named.

Some of us may have thought this attitude was strictly for the Sterling's the Pogba's, i.e. black players (they get it worse, of course - Ferdinand was right on that), but no.

What is revealed is that player displays of player power (despite the owners earning MASSIVE revenues DUE to the players) is not allowed and of course if you go to a club such as ours. However, even an owner who joined SL that garnered vitriolic fan protests, is acceptable.

Any asking price set is so strongly praised and justified as all up to the owner, rhetoric that "a contract is a contract" with zero recognition or even mention of well known market forces regarding player value, and a history of contracts in football never being equal to a contact or deed to a home as I argued with a Villa fan on Twitter on Grealish this past week.

A home can possess immense monetary value, but a home is NOT A PERSON with feelings and ambitions whom with an owner has a personal relationship with.

A home is not a top class striker, an entity that cannot be recreated or copied with the same quality anywhere on Earth and be aware of their own value. Yes, this DOES award the owner of a player's contract that is longer more power, but we know that with Kane this is even more complicated by the "gentleman's agreement" and Kane's personality and loyalty lauded with great regularity.

Fans moan about player wages, but attitudes about this has always been historically a metaphor for workers' fight with owners, even whilst the PRODUCT is the players' skills on display. In film and other global level audience entertainment fields top stars earn incredible levels of income, but we don't whinge on about them the same way or discuss their wages so publicly (although they do face arguably worse barriers with lack of privacy).

There is a history of sport owners using their public advantage due to the angry, tribal, black and white thinking of more than enough fans and journalists to smear players and crush player attempts to gain more power - it's those selfish players, visibly cut throat agents, or invisible state owned clubs who all to blame - to get what they want and keep power.

It's little wonder we are now seeing more stars (Mbappe, Pogba perhaps Sterling) seeking to use free transfers to move than ever in Europe. More and more fans have zero appetite for what Kane is doing and I can understand why as seeing it as "hurting their brand," when reputation matters A LOT.

Yet, Kane is stuck because of his mistake signing that contract, believing Levy would let him go for a more reasonable price - I'd argue expecting perhaps similar treatment to how City have appeared to with players we've let go. City have been criticised by our own fans for letting players go at questionable fees, but this seems to be a strategy. Sure, City don't hassle like Levy due to some other advantages, but this approach also includes accepting risk losing players to Barca or RM or Bayern or selling low to Serie A. The key is it also creates an advantage attracting talent by providing the players with a sense of agency.

For someone of Kane's reported character and no show for training, is it THAT difficult to see how he may feel he was lied to by Levy? I think the answer has a strong chance of being "Yes."

Similar transpired with Messi last summer, and recall how he was manipulated and forced to concede by Barca. Even a player with his power.

Professional footballers in UK/Europe IMO have LESS power than they do across the pond for a long list of reasons, but that doesn't mean it's truly fair when compared to justification of owner power that in other instances we might raise questions on.

Notice a theme? We accept owner power as okay when convenient for our own self(ish) interests, but recall the difference with Kane here in that Messi HAS won titles, HAS won CL, moving far when settled with children, a change in leadership was likely coming to Barca, and it did. For Kane, all the rest do not match and Levy is going nowhere.

We hear a so called saint of English football Gary Neville clearly hinting something is amiss for Kane do not show for training. That's how frustrated he is with Levy. Nope, all City's fault. Remember always best to blame everyone else and never look inward ever.

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When Kane's 6 year contract is raised, yes, we can say he made a mistake, but could it be due to his gentleman-like behaviour that these same fans and journalists endlessly praised Kane prior, that led to this "gentleman's agreement," except now we know he was not truly signing with another gentleman?

Is it surprising players seem more and more "selfish" when so many clubs, fans or journalists treat players, even like Kane, the way they are? So years of credibility is thrown out the window in one breath? That's all it took.


I find interesting that City fans are often accused of being tribalist and closed to criticism but why is the reaction from fans when faced with reasonable questions from "our side" feel similar? We are all not listening or diving deep enough, and blaming one group or the other is poor in approach.

Scapegoating or oversimplifying "what's wrong with football" regardless of how misguided or inconsistent with fans' beliefs - usually social and political - in other areas of life without self-reflection is never the way to go. I can admit things as a City fan that allow for criticism of the club or other aspects that have gotten me into hot water with some of our fans, but I accept that and am open to dialogue.

Yet, when it comes to takes on player's worker rights there's little room for conversation amongst too many fans due to strong, somewhat understandable feelings when one is not so well off, over player earnings regardless of what appears like little acknowledgement that their wages are PAID BY THE OWNERS WHO THEMSELVES CHOOSE TO OFFER SUCH CONTRACTS (if we want to play the "choice" game and see the inconsistency there).

Some fans and journalists seem lost that "the money spent" on players and wages justifiably exists due to basic economic forces in a supposed "free-market" Capitalist system.

Player fees and wages offered are clear examples of supply and demand in an incredibly competitive and lucrative global market for the services to earn MASSIVE revenues for owners (are the owners living on the streets if the club goes bust?) - where contracts mean FAR less and player movement equivalent to what happens when free market capitalists seek to participate in a truly capitalist world - meaning capital (players and humans - most of us NOT allowed of course) is able to move around the world anywhere freely.

If you create an attractive environment with top quality and you will attract the best talent even if some move on. It's how many successful businesses function. Not blocking their workers capacity to change jobs. Yet, Levy and other owners know that fan/journalists will back them so they continue to get away with this, for now perhaps.

Yes, Spurs will still attract strong players despite the Kane saga, and TBF Levy may know he cannot attract the best so his game is the way it is selling, but it was different with other players who have left it feels.

I wonder if treating Kane this way may come back to haunt Levy more than he thinks with future talent.

Curious how this plays out but is it wrong to ask questions about how much Levy cares about Kane or his players? Sport is a cutthroat, dispensable world of what have you done for me lately for the clubs and fans. Kane's treatment shows it.

Feels like the truth is any reaction of "wow" towards the 180 degree turn on Kane's character should sadly, and quite actually turn into a not terribly surprising.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby Mase » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:50 pm

It’s nothing to do with race. VVD was treated as a hero going on strike at Saints.
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Re: Welcome Harry Kane

Postby patrickblue » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:55 pm

Mase wrote:It’s nothing to do with race. VVD was treated as a hero going on strike at Saints.


Yeh, but that was so he could move to the media darlings, not to nasty old mercenary City.
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