Pep Out?

[sheblue]

No for me.
He inherited a team of fullbacks in their 30s and rebuilt the team.
He can do it again. For me it's the chairman and director of football who need to get behind him and push the much needed rebuild that we've all been talking about for two years.

Gundo. Walker, Kevin, silva all need to go. We need an alternative striker, a proper no 6 back up probably a keeper, and replacement for stones who is utterly unreliable.
That's a minimum of 7 or 8.

Give the manager the personnel he needs. If he is sacked we're still going to need the 7 or 8 new players anyway.

[carolina-blue]

It’s a big fat No from me He will turn this around

His comments through all the shit being done to us tells me he’s a Blue and as such we Blues stick together , CTID Lads circle the wagons

[Mase]

Every fan of every other PL club are praying he leaves and every one of them would take him at their club.

It’s not about that though is it? He needs a break from football. It’s not about which set of fans would like him - he’s not gonna rock up at West Ham tomorrow.

The guy is mentally exhausted and after his scratching the other week, boarding on mentally unwell. He needs a break from football, his stubborn mind just won’t admit it.

[Original Dub]

"We played well"



PeP is either fuckign deluded or he thinks us fans are fuckign stupid when he comes out with shit statements like this.

I want him GONE but ONLY end of the season and ONLY if we do not qualify for the CL ( I said as much in a previous post and Ill stick with it no matter how many shit decisions he continues making this season) ...no CL football and he can walk or be sacked...either or.
Qualify and he gets another shot at creating a team for the 2025/26 season.

He always says we played well.

However, I actually thought (as did the commentators on tnt) that we dominated more than we have in the last 6 week crisis?

We're still vulnerable at the back and not quick enough in attack but I didn't think we were total shit like you did?

Funny old game this

[Bear60]

Every fan of every other PL club are praying he leaves and every one of them would take him at their club.

It’s not about that though is it? He needs a break from football. It’s not about which set of fans would like him - he’s not gonna rock up at West Ham tomorrow.

The guy is mentally exhausted and after his scratching the other week, boarding on mentally unwell. He needs a break from football, his stubborn mind just won’t admit it.

Spot on Mase

[Original Dub]

Every fan of every other PL club are praying he leaves and every one of them would take him at their club.

It’s not about that though is it? He needs a break from football. It’s not about which set of fans would like him - he’s not gonna rock up at West Ham tomorrow.

The guy is mentally exhausted and after his scratching the other week, boarding on mentally unwell. He needs a break from football, his stubborn mind just won’t admit it.

The media have put quite a lot on these scratches but I'm surprised you're as set on these being proof he's having a mental breakdown mate?

Iirc his pre match interview showed these scratches and then it was reported that he did it to himself during the match?
Edit - just checked and my mate sent me a screenshot of his pre match interview with the scratches

Could be wrong but I don't think so.

I love the chap and I'm not one single bit concerned for his mental well being tbh.

He's the best of all time. He's in a very difficult moment but I don't think his life is is danger.

Just win the fucking Derby and take it from there

[Mase]

Self harming, which he admitted, is a sign of a mental breakdown.

The guy needs help.

[Sparklehorse]

He’s not responding to the situation in the expected manner. I want him gone……next please whomever it may be. Thanks for the fantastic few years but the first sign of trouble and you’ve come up wanting game after game.

Aside from the injury crisis, something is definitely not right mate, that's for sure.

If that was to happen as you hope, who would you go for?

Vinny.

[Original Dub]

Self harming, which he admitted, is a sign of a mental breakdown.

The guy needs help.

He was joking and later apologised for the joke.

Should he be institutionalised or what did you reckon? He probably already has a therapist if that's what you mean.

You do seem genuinely concerned for his welfare.

Even I don't love him that much

[Original Dub]

He’s not responding to the situation in the expected manner. I want him gone……next please whomever it may be. Thanks for the fantastic few years but the first sign of trouble and you’ve come up wanting game after game.

Aside from the injury crisis, something is definitely not right mate, that's for sure.

If that was to happen as you hope, who would you go for?

Vinny.

Interesting choice.

We haven't seen vinny overhaul a squad before though or indeed win anything but he'd be one of ours I suppose.

Being honest I'd pick pep over vinny at the moment

[Nick]

On reflection def keep.til.end of season (unless we go bottom half?)

Im thinking we need him to sign players but dumb and dumber have failed to sign all our targets WITH pep, plus without pep wed have alvarez and palmer.

As in other posts we arr bettwr withoit haaland half the time and we need another stfiker but pep would havd to try and provr he can play two strikers or who would come ?

[Mase]

Self harming, which he admitted, is a sign of a mental breakdown.

The guy needs help.

He was joking and later apologised for the joke.

Should he be institutionalised or what did you reckon? He probably already has a therapist if that's what you mean.

You do seem genuinely concerned for his welfare.

Even I don't love him that much

You don’t have to love someone to be able to see they need help.

It’s not one extreme or another.

[Original Dub]

I never said you have to love someone to know they need help.

But I'd imagine you would look out and care for someone you love more than someone you are largely indifferent to?

Anyway, I don't think he needs medical assistance, no more than other managers who went through a crisis .

Let's smash the rags

[Hazy2]

Pep in. Clearly we need a clear out. MY issues with that is, we have him on a shorter period. Plus the BS charges

[Mase]

I never said you have to love someone to know they need help.

But I'd imagine you would look out and care for someone you love more than someone you are largely indifferent to?

Anyway, I don't think he needs medical assistance, no more than other managers who went through a crisis .

Let's smash the rags

Who said he needs media assistance? He obviously needs help. The guys mum died during COVID and he wasn’t allowed to be with her, his Mrs snd kids spends 90% of their time in Barca, he’s scratching himself and looking tired on the sideline, his decisions before and during matches aren’t what we’d expect from Pep.

[PeterParker]

I am on the fence.
Like many already said, I think something is happening with him. Might be exhaustion, might be something in on his personal side, might be the fact he lost the dressing room, maybe players are upset on him because he did not let them leave.
There are so many aspects.

For what he did and won, I think we owe him a chance to do something. If he signs 2 players this winter, then I think he knows, but if he decides to go like this and bring no one after the window ends, then he needs to go because he has lost touch with reality.

It seems like he is stubborn to change things. Something we know very well.

[Mase]

I am on the fence.
Like many already said, I think something is happening with him. Might be exhaustion, might be something in on his personal side, might be the fact he lost the dressing room, maybe players are upset on him because he did not let them leave.
There are so many aspects.

For what he did and won, I think we owe him a chance to do something. If he signs 2 players this winter, then I think he knows, but if he decides to go like this and bring no one after the window ends, then he needs to go because he has lost touch with reality.

It seems like he is stubborn to change things. Something we know very well.

I agree with this. He definitely deserves the chance to put things right, but at the same time he needs to know when it’s time for a rest. Only he can know that.

The battles against Liverpool were mentally draining for us fans, I can’t imagine what Pep went through. Slur Alice never had that - he just cruised along and smashed and outspent every team that challenged them. Pep’s had some proper battles.

[salford city]

Pep in. Clearly we need a clear out. MY issues with that is, we have him on a shorter period. Plus the BS charges

Wanted him gone last night. We can all see that injuries are killing us and there is no getting away from that BUT the small squad is on Pep and to a lesser degree, the club. What I cannot accept or excuse, is his pig headedness in sticking to the same formation and tactics. The fb stepping out causes us more pain when we constantly turn the ball over and teams then break on a 2 man defence. Kova back will paper over the cracks but a Rodri back up and potentially, new back line need to be addressed and that's a couple of windows. Add to that KDB who is on the way out, Gundo, Silva and Jack and that a lot of recruitment. Does Pep have the appetite for that - I doubt it but I also think it will not be his call. Stick with him get top 4 and fa cup. I'd say we'd still have a chance of chumps but that needs everyone plus incomings staying fit and I don't see that happening. The noise will be a lot louder after the red shite do a spuds on us Sunday but we are going to have to suck it up

[ayrshireblue]

I'm definitely on the edge of wanting him gone. Love what he has done for the club in the past and how he has become a fan of the club but the constant drivel about playing well when everyone and their dog can see we have played slow and predictable football and are as easy to cut through as a hot knife to butter is pathetic. The refusal to even try younger players like O'Reilly, McAtee or put Lewis before Walker. Gundogan being a first choice pick is pathetic considering how poorly he has played since his return. The insistence on keeping possession over trying to find the best striker in the world means we have no room to find passes into the box because it is loaded with defenders by the time we get there. Those that say he has changed styles before are correct but how long have we seen this style where we are parked 25 yards out from the opposition goal and passing sideaays only to lose possession and have defenders too far up the park with no pace to her back and end up losing a goal. Something has to change and if Guardiola isn't going to change them maybe we need to change him.

[Scatman]

I'm definitely on the edge of wanting him gone. Love what he has done for the club in the past and how he has become a fan of the club but the constant drivel about playing well when everyone and their dog can see we have played slow and predictable football and are as easy to cut through as a hot knife to butter is pathetic. The refusal to even try younger players like O'Reilly, McAtee or put Lewis before Walker. Gundogan being a first choice pick is pathetic considering how poorly he has played since his return. The insistence on keeping possession over trying to find the best striker in the world means we have no room to find passes into the box because it is loaded with defenders by the time we get there. Those that say he has changed styles before are correct but how long have we seen this style where we are parked 25 yards out from the opposition goal and passing sideaays only to lose possession and have defenders too far up the park with no pace to her back and end up losing a goal. Something has to change and if Guardiola isn't going to change them maybe we need to change him.

That's it in a nutshell for me. He has just said he is doubting himself. If that is the case he is intelligent enough to try something different, and if he doesn't try something different it is either because he is not capable of coming up with something different, or he has lost the plot completely. Every time it happens you think it's going to be a watershed moment and then nothing changes. Something simply has to change.