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[Nickyboy]

PSGs heads gone. Sore losers

[Hazy2]

Well you can’t have it both ways Enrique having his arse handed to him. Just saying.

His team didn’t show up the first half - how many times have we said that about us ?

It was with my tongue firmly in my cheek. I’d have him after Pep. That will put a pep in both sides step going forward.

[Scatman]

Hang your head Pep

I think this mistake is haunting Pep, a huge cock up. great player, I could see it years ago. I personally want Pep out he’s finished he wont last till Xmas in my humble opinion. this player is dominating the champions of europe, a side that most pundits are saying are one of the best ever teams. still he is a rag fan so he can fuck off

Palmer wanted guaranteed minutes and that annoyed pep , and when he’s annoyed your pushed into the train to fucking Siberia !
He was clear: he didn’t want to be a fringe player. He actually said this in his own words after joining Chelsea — “I didn’t just want to be sitting around.” He didn’t trust Pep to give him a consistent run.
Pep didn’t guarantee that — or fight hard to convince him.
Pep has a history of keeping a tight, low-rotation squad. If you’re not immediately trusted, you’ll ride the bench. Palmer had to wait behind Bernardo, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish, KDB, and even Alvarez at times. Palmer probably saw the writing on the wall and jumped at the chance to join Chelsea and now he’s their star player -

Another pep fuck up .

Nor was he worth giving a consistent run to at that point. The games he played he really was nothing special and certainly not worthy of a regular spot ahead of any of those names you list at that time. Pep treated him exactly the same as any other young player and we can find fault with it for not giving more time to more young players but it worked perfectly well with Foden. Palmer just didn't have the patience or the inclination to stick around and see it out. It has worked out for him by the looks of things but it could just have easily turned to shit.

[Mase]

When Palmer played he scored some important goals - Charity Shield against Arsenal, equaliser against Sevilla in the Super Cup.

The facts are - he said he wanted to leave ON LOAN. Pep fails to mention the loan part when he says, "he spent two years telling us he wanted to leave". He asked again and Pep saw his arse and told him to leave properly.

It's on Pep. That the end of it, there's nothing a Pep apologists can say to rewrite history.

[Wooders]

When Palmer played he scored some important goals - Charity Shield against Arsenal, equaliser against Sevilla in the Super Cup.

The facts are - he said he wanted to leave ON LOAN. Pep fails to mention the loan part when he says, "he spent two years telling us he wanted to leave". He asked again and Pep saw his arse and told him to leave properly.

It's on Pep. That the end of it, there's nothing a Pep apologists can say to rewrite history.

Agreed, got rid of palmer in favour of grealish and Bernie - boneheaded decision

[Scatman]

When Palmer played he scored some important goals - Charity Shield against Arsenal, equaliser against Sevilla in the Super Cup.

The facts are - he said he wanted to leave ON LOAN. Pep fails to mention the loan part when he says, "he spent two years telling us he wanted to leave". He asked again and Pep saw his arse and told him to leave properly.

It's on Pep. That the end of it, there's nothing a Pep apologists can say to rewrite history.

We'll sit here and complain like fuck if Echeverri goes out on loan, and would have done the exact same thing if we'd have sent Foden out on loan.

[Mase]

When Palmer played he scored some important goals - Charity Shield against Arsenal, equaliser against Sevilla in the Super Cup.

The facts are - he said he wanted to leave ON LOAN. Pep fails to mention the loan part when he says, "he spent two years telling us he wanted to leave". He asked again and Pep saw his arse and told him to leave properly.

It's on Pep. That the end of it, there's nothing a Pep apologists can say to rewrite history.

We'll sit here and complain like fuck if Echeverri goes out on loan, and would have done the exact same thing if we'd have sent Foden out on loan.

Agreed. He shouldn't have gone out on loan and he shouldn't have been sold. It's Pep and his teams job (and the Director of Football) to convince the players like Palmer that City is the best place to be and that they'll get chances.

[Dubciteh]

When Palmer played he scored some important goals - Charity Shield against Arsenal, equaliser against Sevilla in the Super Cup.

The facts are - he said he wanted to leave ON LOAN. Pep fails to mention the loan part when he says, "he spent two years telling us he wanted to leave". He asked again and Pep saw his arse and told him to leave properly.

It's on Pep. That the end of it, there's nothing a Pep apologists can say to rewrite history.

Agreed, got rid of palmer in favour of grealish and Bernie - boneheaded decision

Not really, he got rid of Palmer in favor of Doku. If Doku doesnt sign Palmer doesnt leave. No one in their right mind wanted Grealish or Bernardo to leave post treble when palmer left, both were key players.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Hang your head Pep

I think this mistake is haunting Pep, a huge cock up. great player, I could see it years ago. I personally want Pep out he’s finished he wont last till Xmas in my humble opinion. this player is dominating the champions of europe, a side that most pundits are saying are one of the best ever teams. still he is a rag fan so he can fuck off

Palmer wanted guaranteed minutes and that annoyed pep , and when he’s annoyed your pushed into the train to fucking Siberia !
He was clear: he didn’t want to be a fringe player. He actually said this in his own words after joining Chelsea — “I didn’t just want to be sitting around.” He didn’t trust Pep to give him a consistent run.
Pep didn’t guarantee that — or fight hard to convince him.
Pep has a history of keeping a tight, low-rotation squad. If you’re not immediately trusted, you’ll ride the bench. Palmer had to wait behind Bernardo, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish, KDB, and even Alvarez at times. Palmer probably saw the writing on the wall and jumped at the chance to join Chelsea and now he’s their star player -

Another pep fuck up .

Nor was he worth giving a consistent run to at that point. The games he played he really was nothing special and certainly not worthy of a regular spot ahead of any of those names you list at that time. Pep treated him exactly the same as any other young player and we can find fault with it for not giving more time to more young players but it worked perfectly well with Foden. Palmer just didn't have the patience or the inclination to stick around and see it out. It has worked out for him by the looks of things but it could just have easily turned to shit.

“He wasn’t worth a run” ????what game were you watching? The lad scored in two finals before the season even started, looked more dangerous than half our senior attackers, and still got benched so Pep could play his usual side-to-side ball merchants.

As for the “Foden waited” comment ??? he was getting 30 games a season by the time he was 19 whereas Palmer got a few minutes here and there no matter how great he played ffs !!
FYI , Palmer didn’t “lack patience” at all , he saw exactly what every other young talent sees at City: unless you’re Pep’s golden boy or a £60m signing, you’re an afterthought. He left City permanently (Pep’s decision to sell him ) backed himself, and turned into Chelsea’s best player in 6 months. You think that’s luck?
And this “it could’ve gone to shit” line is mute as you could say that about any player .
The point is: we sold a proven talent, didn’t replace him, and spent the season regretting it.

[stupot]

Hang your head Pep

I think this mistake is haunting Pep, a huge cock up. great player, I could see it years ago. I personally want Pep out he’s finished he wont last till Xmas in my humble opinion. this player is dominating the champions of europe, a side that most pundits are saying are one of the best ever teams. still he is a rag fan so he can fuck off

Palmer wanted guaranteed minutes and that annoyed pep , and when he’s annoyed your pushed into the train to fucking Siberia !
He was clear: he didn’t want to be a fringe player. He actually said this in his own words after joining Chelsea — “I didn’t just want to be sitting around.” He didn’t trust Pep to give him a consistent run.
Pep didn’t guarantee that — or fight hard to convince him.
Pep has a history of keeping a tight, low-rotation squad. If you’re not immediately trusted, you’ll ride the bench. Palmer had to wait behind Bernardo, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish, KDB, and even Alvarez at times. Palmer probably saw the writing on the wall and jumped at the chance to join Chelsea and now he’s their star player -

Another pep fuck up .

Nor was he worth giving a consistent run to at that point. The games he played he really was nothing special and certainly not worthy of a regular spot ahead of any of those names you list at that time. Pep treated him exactly the same as any other young player and we can find fault with it for not giving more time to more young players but it worked perfectly well with Foden. Palmer just didn't have the patience or the inclination to stick around and see it out. It has worked out for him by the looks of things but it could just have easily turned to shit.

“He wasn’t worth a run” ????what game were you watching? The lad scored in two finals before the season even started, looked more dangerous than half our senior attackers, and still got benched so Pep could play his usual side-to-side ball merchants.

As for the “Foden waited” comment ??? he was getting 30 games a season by the time he was 19 whereas Palmer got a few minutes here and there no matter how great he played ffs !!
FYI , Palmer didn’t “lack patience” at all , he saw exactly what every other young talent sees at City: unless you’re Pep’s golden boy or a £60m signing, you’re an afterthought. He left City permanently (Pep’s decision to sell him ) backed himself, and turned into Chelsea’s best player in 6 months. You think that’s luck?
And this “it could’ve gone to shit” line is mute as you could say that about any player .
The point is: we sold a proven talent, didn’t replace him, and spent the season regretting it.

We didn't spend the season regretting it- we won the Premier League.
You was whinging like fuck about Foden's minutes when he was 19, that would have been David Silva's last season and you were moaning non stop about him playing instead of Foden.

[Nickyboy]

Think the unexpected bid for Mahrez cocked us up a bit too. With Mahrez leaving Palmer would have ended up with the minutes but I don't think the plan at the start of that summer was for Mahrez to go.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's all so unpredictable in football and at the time I thought it was a good deal for everyone. As it stands now though it looks like we should have got some more cash or tried harder to persuade him to stay!

But then look at Sancho.... Looks like we made absolutely the right decision not trying harder to keep him before he went to Dortmund.

[Mase]

But then look at Sancho.... Looks like we made absolutely the right decision not trying harder to keep him before he went to Dortmund.

The club knew about Sancho's personal life and attitude, which is probably why they didn't try harder to keep him. Completely the opposite to Palmer, which we're seeing now.

It's a good job Phil is a City fan, otherwise he'd be playing for another team now.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Re: Stupot
I moaned about Foden not getting minutes because he should’ve fucking played more, simple as that. And unlike you, I don’t sit here worshipping every Pep decision like he’s the fucking football pope!!
That was Silva’s farewell tour and it showed , but Foden was already outplaying him and then benched the following game That’s why most fans (not you, obviously) were pissed off watching him rot on the bench when he should have been on the pitch.

And just to back up my little rant - you can have this :
Pep even admitted after the season that he “should’ve played Foden more.”

[Hazy2]

I said it at the time. When Palmer scored v Arsenal. He definitely gave everyone a glimpse of his talent. How it played out is on Pep. Cole is not blameless. It’s a fuck up own it.

[stupot]

Re: Stupot
I moaned about Foden not getting minutes because he should’ve fucking played more, simple as that. And unlike you, I don’t sit here worshipping every Pep decision like he’s the fucking football pope!!
That was Silva’s farewell tour and it showed , but Foden was already outplaying him and then benched the following game That’s why most fans (not you, obviously) were pissed off watching him rot on the bench when he should have been on the pitch.

And just to back up my little rant - you can have this :
Pep even admitted after the season that he “should’ve played Foden more.”

So he was getting 30 games a season but he wasn't getting enough minutes.
Glad we've sorted that one out.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Re: Stupot
I moaned about Foden not getting minutes because he should’ve fucking played more, simple as that. And unlike you, I don’t sit here worshipping every Pep decision like he’s the fucking football pope!!
That was Silva’s farewell tour and it showed , but Foden was already outplaying him and then benched the following game That’s why most fans (not you, obviously) were pissed off watching him rot on the bench when he should have been on the pitch.

And just to back up my little rant - you can have this :
Pep even admitted after the season that he “should’ve played Foden more.”

So he was getting 30 games a season but he wasn't getting enough minutes.
Glad we've sorted that one out.

You constantly need educating don’t you ?

Classic Stupot logic:
“30 games = enough minutes” — as if coming on in the 88th minute when we’re 4–0 up somehow equals development time.
Let me fucking educate you, since basic context seems beyond you:
Foden in 2019/20
Premier League apps: 23
Minutes: 892
That’s 38 minutes per game — which includes a bunch of garbage-time cameos
9 starts out of 38 league games — while David Silva, aged 34, started 22
In your little world Foden was “getting games” — just not the kind that actually matter.
You’d fucking argue a traffic cone got fair treatment if it had baldy’s name on it.

[Harry Dowd scored]

I have read this thread & understand a lot of the comments about players getting “ minutes “ but the bottom line re Cole Palmer is, it is one of the biggest fuck ups in terms of selling players in PL history. The man responsible is clearly Pep, in terms of player/man management he is a total disaster. He openly admits he doesn’t like a big squad, this reflects his lack of confidence in himself. I also believe it is embarrassing to request a smaller less effective squad because of an inability to manage the squad.

[Scatman]

Re: Stupot
I moaned about Foden not getting minutes because he should’ve fucking played more, simple as that. And unlike you, I don’t sit here worshipping every Pep decision like he’s the fucking football pope!!
That was Silva’s farewell tour and it showed , but Foden was already outplaying him and then benched the following game That’s why most fans (not you, obviously) were pissed off watching him rot on the bench when he should have been on the pitch.

And just to back up my little rant - you can have this :
Pep even admitted after the season that he “should’ve played Foden more.”

So he was getting 30 games a season but he wasn't getting enough minutes.
Glad we've sorted that one out.

I think it was 30 games a season by the time he was 19.

By the time of his 19th birthday he had played during 2 full seasons and made a total of about 35 appearances.

Cole Palmer on the other hand had made roughly the same number of appearances by the time he completed his second full season.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Re: Stupot
I moaned about Foden not getting minutes because he should’ve fucking played more, simple as that. And unlike you, I don’t sit here worshipping every Pep decision like he’s the fucking football pope!!
That was Silva’s farewell tour and it showed , but Foden was already outplaying him and then benched the following game That’s why most fans (not you, obviously) were pissed off watching him rot on the bench when he should have been on the pitch.

And just to back up my little rant - you can have this :
Pep even admitted after the season that he “should’ve played Foden more.”

So he was getting 30 games a season but he wasn't getting enough minutes.
Glad we've sorted that one out.

I think it was 30 games a season by the time he was 19.

By the time of his 19th birthday he had played during 2 full seasons and made a total of about 35 appearances.

Cole Palmer on the other hand had made roughly the same number of appearances by the time he completed his second full season.

I’ve just done some homework on the stats — and yep, Foden was slightly ahead of Palmer in terms of minutes played during their first two seasons. But the fact is, both were underused. They showed enough talent to deserve more meaningful minutes, and Pep decided otherwise.

[stupot]

Re: Stupot
I moaned about Foden not getting minutes because he should’ve fucking played more, simple as that. And unlike you, I don’t sit here worshipping every Pep decision like he’s the fucking football pope!!
That was Silva’s farewell tour and it showed , but Foden was already outplaying him and then benched the following game That’s why most fans (not you, obviously) were pissed off watching him rot on the bench when he should have been on the pitch.

And just to back up my little rant - you can have this :
Pep even admitted after the season that he “should’ve played Foden more.”

So he was getting 30 games a season but he wasn't getting enough minutes.
Glad we've sorted that one out.

You constantly need educating don’t you ?

Classic Stupot logic:
“30 games = enough minutes” — as if coming on in the 88th minute when we’re 4–0 up somehow equals development time.
Let me fucking educate you, since basic context seems beyond you:
Foden in 2019/20
Premier League apps: 23
Minutes: 892
That’s 38 minutes per game — which includes a bunch of garbage-time cameos
9 starts out of 38 league games — while David Silva, aged 34, started 22
In your little world Foden was “getting games” — just not the kind that actually matter.
You’d fucking argue a traffic cone got fair treatment if it had baldy’s name on it.

Classic Carl Logic
" As for the Foden waited comment ??? he was getting 30 games a season by the time he was 19"
You're the one who said it in this thread.
Priceless