pellegrini

[shawzy]

Pretty good read this one, especially the parts about his season for Real.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... stone.html

[Chopper]

Win percentage at Current Club 40.63
Mancinis at Manchester City 56.31

We could use the "modest Means" Comparison with him and Sparky and he would still come up short.

Sparky
Blackburn Rovers England 15 September 2004 3 June 2008 188 82 47 59 43.62

Flat Sparkling water
Málaga Spain 5 November 2010 Present 128 52 30 46 40.63

[Blue Since 76]

Win percentage at Current Club 40.63
Mancinis at Manchester City 56.31

We could use the "modest Means" Comparison with him and Sparky and he would still come up short.

Sparky
Blackburn Rovers England 15 September 2004 3 June 2008 188 82 47 59 43.62

Flat Sparkling water
Málaga Spain 5 November 2010 Present 128 52 30 46 40.63

Impossible to compare across leagues though. If he comes, let's give him time and see how he does. Anything less than 100% though and I'm reaching for my pitchfork

[Chopper]

The same argument occurred when Mancini was coming.
Fiorentina
2001 2002 27 6 5 16 22.22
Lazio
2002 2004 102 49 32 21 48.04
Internazionale
2004 2008 227 140 61 26 61.67
Manchester City
2009 191 113 38 40 59.16

[phips]

Not sure if this has posted. Apologies if it has.

It is nothing more than common sense to suggest that off-field issues at a football club will affect the performance of the team. If your employer was noted to be struggling financially, with a mix of facts, rumours and spurious nonsense spouted across multimedia channels regarding your continued employment, would you be able to operate at maximum? Or would, inevitably, morale, drive and motivation ebb away as you became more worried about the self than the collective? Football may be a team game, but that is a cliché less relevant in times of financial hardship. Players will be forced to think of their own well-being, and cannot be criticised for doing so.

All of which makes the recent achievements of Malaga CF and Manuel Pellegrini over the last 18 months all the more impressive, given they have been in an almost constant state of limbo since 2010. When Sheikh Abdullah Al-Thani strode into town, he made the sort of promises so typical within modern football. There was to be a new stadium, a new academy, a new manager, new players and, most importantly, a new mindset. Malaga were no longer to be just another football team, and would become trendsetters for a new breed of club able to take on Europe's elite.

Initially, signs were promising on the Costa del Sol. Al-Thani made good on his claims of meaningful investment, and the club signed Salomon Rondon, Eliseu and Martin Demichelis, amongst others. Most importantly, Manuel Pellegrini was recruited as head coach, experience that was vastly required during such upheaval. After a 17th place finish in 2009/10, Pellegrini led the team to 11th in La Liga. The owner, sensing the potential for quick improvement, invested further still in player recruitment, bringing in Ruud van Nistelrooy, Isco, Jeremy Toulalan and Santi Cazorla to the new 'project'.

Halfway through last season Malaga were tenth, but a late surge saw them finish in fourth place, the club's highest ever league finish and hence their first qualification for the Champions League. It was only the second time La Rosaleda would host European football, and the owner's principal goal had been achieved in just two seasons. These were truly halcyon days.

As so often seems to occur, the wheels soon came off. Whether Al-Thani lost interest, passion or disposable income (the latter would seem hugely unlikely), Malaga have become a very modern tale: rags to riches and back to rags. It started last summer, when individuals filed complaints that they were owed wages from the club. In the close season, a host of first-team players departed, including Cazorla, Van Nistelrooy, Rondon, Joris Mathijsen and Enzo Maresca. The club recouped £30million in transfer fees but spent just £600,000 on a season-long loan for Roque Santa Cruz, and Javier Saviola was brought in on a free transfer.

These were not the dealings of a club on the up, and it became clear that the owner no longer wished to fund his illusions of footballing grandeur. On December 21st last year, UEFA dropped its bombshell. Malaga were banned from European competition for one season and fined £244,000 due to the debts still owed by the club for transfers involving Cazorla, Rondon and Toulalan. The full extent of such debts are not known, but it is clear that Malaga have been operating on borrowed time for months rather than weeks.

And yet, amongst such a storm of football economics, Pellegrini remains stoically at the helm, steering his side admirably on the field. Despite all the summer departures, Malaga sit sixth in La Liga. There were mid-season thoughts of a top-four finish, but these have eroded as the club have seemingly accepted that even should they qualify, UEFA would block their participation.

In the club's debut Champions League season, results have been even more impressive given the instability. In reaching the first knockout stage Los Boquerones played eight games, and remained unbeaten (only Juventus and Dortmund joined Malaga in avoiding defeat during the group stage). In taking four points off every team in the group stage (including Zenit St Petersburg and AC Milan) Malaga established themselves as the surprise package of this season's competition.

Whilst many observers saw the knockout rounds as a stage too far, Malaga defeated likely Portuguese champions Porto despite defeat in Oporto, and only suffered elimination to Dortmund in heartbreaking last-minute fashion, losing the away leg 3-2. We all know what the Germans went on to do to Real Madrid in the Westfalenstadion a fortnight later.

There is a clear contrast here with Roberto Mancini's performance this season. Whilst Malaga progressed against tricky opposition, City joined Montpellier, Dinamo Zagreb and Nordsjaelland as the only clubs to end their Champions League campaigns winless. Whilst Sheikh Mansour will have been delighted with domestic success last season, European glory must now be the assumed aim?

Given the downturn in resources and insecurity surrounding the club, Pellegrini's performance cannot be overstated. He has utilised a fluid front four of Saviola, Joaquin, Francisco Portillo and Isco, who has been La Liga's unheralded star this season. Left-back Eliseu is invited to venture forward, but the defensive solidity provided by Demichelis at the back and Toulalan in midfield has been incredibly effective.

Doubt has been cast on Pellegrini's possible appointment at Manchester City by the Chilean's performance at Real Madrid in 2009/10, something that Sky Sports' Guillem Balague has been quick to rebut. In truth, Pellegrini realised almost instantly that the job was not suitable for him. President Florentino Perez did not want his coach to play Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder (bought under the previous president's reign), but Pellegrini saw them as valuable members of the squad. He still gained 96 points in La Liga, and no manager in Real Madrid's history has won a higher percentage of his matches. Not exactly a huge failure, then?

At Malaga, Pellegrini has fought against a tide that has swept many aside, and performed admirably amidst the madness. One suspects, however, that the muscle of financial restraint has finally proved too much to bear. Manchester City's interest in (and presumed appointment of) Pellegrini is a testament to such performance in difficult times.

Put simply, as Balague goes on to say, Pellegrini is a manager that reaches potential. After all, he took a Villarreal side to the Champions League semi-final, they now find themselves in Spain's second tier, and has brought unprecedented success to La Roseleda.

That ability to make a team more than the sum of its parts is exactly what Mancini has failed at since last May.

Who is Manuel Pellegrini? Check his CV, he has won league titles, he has been in different countries, he speaks excellent English. But his biggest attribute? He maximises the potential of his teams. I hope nobody talks of him as if he was just another manager - not everybody gets the Real Madrid job, for instance, even though there have been 24 coaches in 27 years at the White House. He did a great job at Madrid, pursuing till the end the title in a titanic fight with the best Barcelona in history. Any other year he would have won the league.

Pellegrini is not just a good manager. Look at what he has done with Villarreal (semis Champions league), Madrid and Malaga too. He is actually one of the top managers in the world. He will soon change the mind to the doubters, specially the ill-informed ones.

[carl_feedthegoat]

MANUEL PELLEGRINI is nothing like Roberto Mancini — or any other Premier League boss.
For a start the jovial Chilean never blasts refs and has a habit of politely referring to his players as ‘Mr so and so’.
And the Manchester City-bound manager is good for a laugh.
Jose Mourinho, during his first season as Real Madrid chief, taunted Pellegrini about his achievements as coach at the Bernabeu.
But Pellegrini replied: “I’ve won the same number of La Liga as Mou — zero.”
And while Mancini suffered the antics of Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli, the current Malaga boss is less tolerant.
He booted out Argie Juan Roman Riquelme at Villarreal and Spaniard Apono at Malaga, saying: “In my team the players are with me — or they’re out.”
The 59-year-old ex-Chile international defender looks well equipped to deal with the pressure at the top of the Premier League.
And the consequences should he fail to improve on Mancini’s record of one league title and an FA Cup win.
In his one season at Real, Pellegrini won 31 of his 38 league games to amass a club record 96 points — and still got the boot.
The man they call ‘The Engineer’ — because he is a qualified civil engineer — will arrive at the Etihad after leading Malaga into the Champions League for the first time in their history and reaching this season’s quarter-finals.
He has also coached River Plate in Argentina, LDU Quito in Ecuador and Universidad de Chile in his homeland. But it was at Villarreal — his first European club — that he really made his reputation.
Pellegrini twice guided the ‘Yellow Submarine’ to top-three finishes in La Liga, won the Intertoto Cup and reached the semi-finals of the Champions League in 2006, losing to Arsenal.
His entire 13-year playing career was spent with Universidad, where he made more than 450 appearances before becoming their coach. Whether that kind of loyalty is earned at the Etihad is another matter.
But last night former star players queued up to sing his praises and insist that their old boss Pellegrini can take the heat at City.
Ex-Manchester United and Malaga ace Ruud van Nistelrooy said: “Pellegrini is one of the best coaches I worked under. He’s a big strategist but nothing like Mancini.
“He’s always in conversation with his squad, offering plenty of chances to young players.
“That characterises his quality work and he’ll be good value in the Premier League.”
Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos said: “Our season together was very positive.
“We didn’t win titles but the team developed a good game and Pellegrini won all our respect. I think he’ll triumph in England.”
Marcos Senna, at Villarreal with Pellegrini, added: “We had some incredible years — the best of my career.
“I always speak highly of him because the team was united and communication was good on and off the pitch.
“I remember Pellegrini’s first words to us on his first day at Villarreal.
“He told us, ‘The future lies in your hands. Work as a group and you’ll be successful’.
“Age was never a question. Young or old — he convinced you that your place in the team depended on the work you put in.”

[Chopper]

Wow you cut and paste an article from the sun.

Were you too embarrassed to admit it was the sun or did you know that they have no credibility?

[carl_feedthegoat]

Wow you cut and paste an article from the sun.

Were you too embarrassed to admit it was the sun or did you know that they have no credibility?

So , any article that doesnt suit your fucking agenda is not credible????

Fuck off and grow up you cunt , Mancini is history so get with the program and start supporting our next manager which by all accounts is a great manager.

[Swales4ever]

MANUEL PELLEGRINI is nothing like Roberto Mancini — or any other Premier League boss.
For a start the jovial Chilean never blasts refs and has a habit of politely referring to his players as ‘Mr so and so’.
And the Manchester City-bound manager is good for a laugh.
Jose Mourinho, during his first season as Real Madrid chief, taunted Pellegrini about his achievements as coach at the Bernabeu.
But Pellegrini replied: “I’ve won the same number of La Liga as Mou — zero.”
And while Mancini suffered the antics of Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli, the current Malaga boss is less tolerant.
He booted out Argie Juan Roman Riquelme at Villarreal and Spaniard Apono at Malaga, saying: “In my team the players are with me — or they’re out.”
The 59-year-old ex-Chile international defender looks well equipped to deal with the pressure at the top of the Premier League.
And the consequences should he fail to improve on Mancini’s record of one league title and an FA Cup win.
In his one season at Real, Pellegrini won 31 of his 38 league games to amass a club record 96 points — and still got the boot.
The man they call ‘The Engineer’ — because he is a qualified civil engineer — will arrive at the Etihad after leading Malaga into the Champions League for the first time in their history and reaching this season’s quarter-finals.
He has also coached River Plate in Argentina, LDU Quito in Ecuador and Universidad de Chile in his homeland. But it was at Villarreal — his first European club — that he really made his reputation.
Pellegrini twice guided the ‘Yellow Submarine’ to top-three finishes in La Liga, won the Intertoto Cup and reached the semi-finals of the Champions League in 2006, losing to Arsenal.
His entire 13-year playing career was spent with Universidad, where he made more than 450 appearances before becoming their coach. Whether that kind of loyalty is earned at the Etihad is another matter.
But last night former star players queued up to sing his praises and insist that their old boss Pellegrini can take the heat at City.
Ex-Manchester United and Malaga ace Ruud van Nistelrooy said: “Pellegrini is one of the best coaches I worked under. He’s a big strategist but nothing like Mancini.
“He’s always in conversation with his squad, offering plenty of chances to young players.
“That characterises his quality work and he’ll be good value in the Premier League.”
Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos said: “Our season together was very positive.
“We didn’t win titles but the team developed a good game and Pellegrini won all our respect. I think he’ll triumph in England.”
Marcos Senna, at Villarreal with Pellegrini, added: “We had some incredible years — the best of my career.
“I always speak highly of him because the team was united and communication was good on and off the pitch.
“I remember Pellegrini’s first words to us on his first day at Villarreal.
“He told us, ‘The future lies in your hands. Work as a group and you’ll be successful’.
“Age was never a question. Young or old — he convinced you that your place in the team depended on the work you put in.”

cant wait to see Your face on august, when he will reinstate Joleon of Nasti in the picking order ahead.... :-)
a very nice and popular loser.

[carl_feedthegoat]

MANUEL PELLEGRINI is nothing like Roberto Mancini — or any other Premier League boss.
For a start the jovial Chilean never blasts refs and has a habit of politely referring to his players as ‘Mr so and so’.
And the Manchester City-bound manager is good for a laugh.
Jose Mourinho, during his first season as Real Madrid chief, taunted Pellegrini about his achievements as coach at the Bernabeu.
But Pellegrini replied: “I’ve won the same number of La Liga as Mou — zero.”
And while Mancini suffered the antics of Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli, the current Malaga boss is less tolerant.
He booted out Argie Juan Roman Riquelme at Villarreal and Spaniard Apono at Malaga, saying: “In my team the players are with me — or they’re out.”
The 59-year-old ex-Chile international defender looks well equipped to deal with the pressure at the top of the Premier League.
And the consequences should he fail to improve on Mancini’s record of one league title and an FA Cup win.
In his one season at Real, Pellegrini won 31 of his 38 league games to amass a club record 96 points — and still got the boot.
The man they call ‘The Engineer’ — because he is a qualified civil engineer — will arrive at the Etihad after leading Malaga into the Champions League for the first time in their history and reaching this season’s quarter-finals.
He has also coached River Plate in Argentina, LDU Quito in Ecuador and Universidad de Chile in his homeland. But it was at Villarreal — his first European club — that he really made his reputation.
Pellegrini twice guided the ‘Yellow Submarine’ to top-three finishes in La Liga, won the Intertoto Cup and reached the semi-finals of the Champions League in 2006, losing to Arsenal.
His entire 13-year playing career was spent with Universidad, where he made more than 450 appearances before becoming their coach. Whether that kind of loyalty is earned at the Etihad is another matter.
But last night former star players queued up to sing his praises and insist that their old boss Pellegrini can take the heat at City.
Ex-Manchester United and Malaga ace Ruud van Nistelrooy said: “Pellegrini is one of the best coaches I worked under. He’s a big strategist but nothing like Mancini.
“He’s always in conversation with his squad, offering plenty of chances to young players.
“That characterises his quality work and he’ll be good value in the Premier League.”
Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos said: “Our season together was very positive.
“We didn’t win titles but the team developed a good game and Pellegrini won all our respect. I think he’ll triumph in England.”
Marcos Senna, at Villarreal with Pellegrini, added: “We had some incredible years — the best of my career.
“I always speak highly of him because the team was united and communication was good on and off the pitch.
“I remember Pellegrini’s first words to us on his first day at Villarreal.
“He told us, ‘The future lies in your hands. Work as a group and you’ll be successful’.
“Age was never a question. Young or old — he convinced you that your place in the team depended on the work you put in.”

cant wait to see Your face on august, when he will reinstate Joleon of Nasti in the picking order ahead.... :-)
a very nice and popular loser.

I think any fan will agree that Nasty is the better choice but if Lescott wants to be a squad player then Im all for it.
He can play in all the cup games just like Panti was promised................................

[Chopper]

Wow you cut and paste an article from the sun.

So , any article that doesnt suit your fucking agenda is not credible????


Fuck off and grow up you cunt , Mancini is history so get with the program and start supporting our next manager which by all accounts is a great manager.

Were you too embarrassed to admit it was the sun or did you know that they have no credibility?

Im still waiting for you to have an adult debate. You duck and dive topics when logic or facts kick in. No need for name calling.

Heres an example which of course you ran from. There was no name calling.

Its a democracy here Carl. Not a dictatorship.

Theres a reason I refer to taggart hes been a massive pain in our side for decades. He had a disappointing season a few years ago so has mourinho yet they are both considered the top managers in the game.

Anyone who makes the Munich reference is a bit of a knob. We did lose Frank Swift on that fateful night plus a lot of kids.

Regardless of the "business model" perception, surely you would admit that replacing a manager with a lower win percentage than our current one is madness?

Do you think a manager whose only European trophy was the intertoto cup 9 years ago will do better than Mancini?

As a highly successful manager I'm sure that you look at a CV, you go off accomplishments rather than hunches right?

As you talk about the lack of emotion in smart business decisions please compare both CV's

Please give me your evaluation on both.


Its getting old Carl. Name calling when you dont get your way and screaming to get rid of the manager constantly. Have in intelligent debate or ignore me. I dont really hear much positive from you. Proud of sacking people, nationalist bullshit. Change the record.

[ross.mcfc]

Wow you cut and paste an article from the sun.

I caught him copying and pasting from a BNP message board once so the Sun is an upgrade on his normal standards.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Wow you cut and paste an article from the sun.

Were you too embarrassed to admit it was the sun or did you know that they have no credibility?

So , any article that doesnt suit your fucking agenda is not credible????

Fuck off and grow up you cunt , Mancini is history so get with the program and start supporting our next manager which by all accounts is a great manager.

Im still waiting for you to have an adult debate. You duck and dive topics when logic or facts kick in. No need for name calling.

Heres an example which of course you ran from. There was no name calling.

Its a democracy here Carl. Not a dictatorship.

Theres a reason I refer to taggart hes been a massive pain in our side for decades. He had a disappointing season a few years ago so has mourinho yet they are both considered the top managers in the game.

Anyone who makes the Munich reference is a bit of a knob. We did lose Frank Swift on that fateful night plus a lot of kids.

Regardless of the "business model" perception, surely you would admit that replacing a manager with a lower win percentage than our current one is madness? NOT REALLY,LOOK AT PELLEGRINIS CAREER SO FAR , ID SAY HE HAS ACHIEVED MORE CONSIDERING THE LACK OF FUNDS ETC HE HAD AT HIS DISPOSAL....HE EVEN BEAT MANCINIS INTER WITH AN INFERIOR TEAM.

Do you think a manager whose only European trophy was the intertoto cup 9 years ago will do better than Mancini? AFTER READING UP ON HIM SINCE THE SPECULATION , YES I DO.

As a highly successful manager I'm sure that you look at a CV, you go off accomplishments rather than hunches right? YES,BUT ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAVE MANY DEFINITIONS.

As you talk about the lack of emotion in smart business decisions please compare both CV's

Please give me your evaluation on both.

EMOTIONS CAN COST YOU MORE IN THE LONG RUN,GUT FEELING IS NORMALLY THE RULE OF THUMB (WITH ME IT IS) AND MY HUNCH IS NORMALLY JUSTIFIED.


Its getting old Carl. Name calling when you dont get your way and screaming to get rid of the manager constantly. Have in intelligent debate or ignore me. I dont really hear much positive from you. Proud of sacking people, nationalist bullshit. Change the record.

AS FOR SACKING PEOPLE,I NEVER SACK ANYONE THAT HAS A DOLLAR WORTH TO THE COMPANY OR AT LEAST HAS A TERRIFIC ATTITUDE TO STRIVE TO GET THERE.

Once again , you pick and choose comments from papers that suit your agenda,I get it, but dont try and make me out to be a cunt when I copy and paste something with QUOTES that make for interesting reading.
I can debate you to death in real life but have not the patience to type out a fuckign essay to you each time you dont agree with my point of view.

I wanted mancini out due to the shite I have seen this year , I didnt want another year of it and thats my opinion...the owners also agree , you dont and thats your right.

End.

[Chopper]

All Im seeking is a response to the questions in bold.


Its a democracy here Carl. Not a dictatorship.

Theres a reason I refer to taggart hes been a massive pain in our side for decades. He had a disappointing season a few years ago so has mourinho yet they are both considered the top managers in the game.

Anyone who makes the Munich reference is a bit of a knob. We did lose Frank Swift on that fateful night plus a lot of kids.

Regardless of the "business model" perception, surely you would admit that replacing a manager with a lower win percentage than our current one is madness?

Do you think a manager whose only European trophy was the intertoto cup 9 years ago will do better than Mancini?

As a highly successful manager I'm sure that you look at a CV, you go off accomplishments rather than hunches right?

As you talk about the lack of emotion in smart business decisions please compare both CV's

Please give me your evaluation on both.

[Swales4ever]

I think any fan will agree that Nasty is the better choice but if Lescott wants to be a squad player then Im all for it.
He can play in all the cup games just like Panti was promised................................

Yap.
I thought the reason for the sack was to bring authority and happiness back on most influential players, though

Or was it on qualified professionals like marwood? I read somewhere something about holistic approach.....

Oh wait.

[Swales4ever]

All Im seeking is a response to the questions in bold.


Its a democracy here Carl. Not a dictatorship.

Theres a reason I refer to taggart hes been a massive pain in our side for decades. He had a disappointing season a few years ago so has mourinho yet they are both considered the top managers in the game.

Anyone who makes the Munich reference is a bit of a knob. We did lose Frank Swift on that fateful night plus a lot of kids.

Regardless of the "business model" perception, surely you would admit that replacing a manager with a lower win percentage than our current one is madness?

Do you think a manager whose only European trophy was the intertoto cup 9 years ago will do better than Mancini?

As a highly successful manager I'm sure that you look at a CV, you go off accomplishments rather than hunches right?

As you talk about the lack of emotion in smart business decisions please compare both CV's

Please give me your evaluation on both.

well, on business it's always relational.
give him Cavani and Isco/Reus instead of Garcia and Sinclair, the same draw gifted to PSG or Malaga and he'll do better.... hopefully.

One thing is for granted on the business side of football; You don't increase revenue without success on the pitch.
and there is where I fear that Khaldoon and Carl shall wake up very sweat.

[TheReturnOfTheSpecialOne]

MANUEL PELLEGRINI is nothing like Roberto Mancini — or any other Premier League boss.

And while Mancini suffered the antics of Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli, the current Malaga boss is less tolerant.
He booted out Argie Juan Roman Riquelme at Villarreal and Spaniard Apono at Malaga, saying: “In my team the players are with me — or they’re out.”
The 59-year-old ex-Chile international defender looks well equipped to deal with the pressure at the top of the Premier League.
And the consequences should he fail to improve on Mancini’s record of one league title and an FA Cup win.
In his one season at Real, Pellegrini won 31 of his 38 league games to amass a club record 96 points — and still got the boot.
.............
Marcos Senna, at Villarreal with Pellegrini, added: “We had some incredible years — the best of my career.
“I always speak highly of him because the team was united and communication was good on and off the pitch.
“I remember Pellegrini’s first words to us on his first day at Villarreal.
“He told us, ‘The future lies in your hands. Work as a group and you’ll be successful’.
“Age was never a question. Young or old — he convinced you that your place in the team depended on the work you put in.”

I'm loving him already
He's everything we need in a manager
And not the lapdog of our Barca Old Boys that some are suggesting.

Plus his style of football sounds encouraging.
Mancini did a great job for us: brought us to the next level, and brought us those long-overdue trophies, and he's already a City legend.
But his Barca-lite 'tiki taka' had just got too tedious to watch

[Swales4ever]

I'm loving him already
He's everything we need in a manager
And not the lapdog of our Barca Old Boys that some are suggesting.

Plus his style of football sounds encouraging.
Mancini did a great job for us: brought us to the next level, and brought us those long-overdue trophies, and he's already a City legend.
But his Barca-lite 'tiki taka' had just got too tedious to watch

mmhh...

Your leap of positiveness is overwhelming, Mate.

I think I've never seen such an open credit amongst City fans...

refreshing... Vicky

[carl_feedthegoat]

All Im seeking is a response to the questions in bold.


Its a democracy here Carl. Not a dictatorship.

Theres a reason I refer to taggart hes been a massive pain in our side for decades. He had a disappointing season a few years ago so has mourinho yet they are both considered the top managers in the game.

Anyone who makes the Munich reference is a bit of a knob. We did lose Frank Swift on that fateful night plus a lot of kids.

Regardless of the "business model" perception, surely you would admit that replacing a manager with a lower win percentage than our current one is madness?

Do you think a manager whose only European trophy was the intertoto cup 9 years ago will do better than Mancini?

As a highly successful manager I'm sure that you look at a CV, you go off accomplishments rather than hunches right?

As you talk about the lack of emotion in smart business decisions please compare both CV's

Please give me your evaluation on both.

Look at your post again - I responded in CAPITALS above.

[Socrates]

Wow you cut and paste an article from the sun.

I caught him copying and pasting from a BNP message board once so the Sun is an upgrade on his normal standards.

Sadly that doesn't surprise me, he is a nasty piece of work :(