Ref Watch

[Foreverinbluedreams]

thought Friend was good today.

another ref might've given a handball vs. Gabriel and/or penalized for a handbag that led to Sterling's penalty.
Nice to have a good refereeing performance again. although Mike Dean is officiating on Sunday so it could be back to poor officiating.

Another ref would've been wrong on both, although the Kolarov one was dodgy. The only time I recall him pissing me off was booking Sterling for the exact same thing he let Feghouli away with on Silva less than a minute earlier.

[Slim]

thought Friend was good today.

another ref might've given a handball vs. Gabriel and/or penalized for a handbag that led to Sterling's penalty.
Nice to have a good refereeing performance again. although Mike Dean is officiating on Sunday so it could be back to poor officiating.

Another ref would've been wrong on both, although the Kolarov one was dodgy. The only time I recall him pissing me off was booking Sterling for the exact same thing he let Feghouli away with on Silva less than a minute earlier.

He booked Jesus for waving the imaginary yellow, didn't book Noble for doing the same thing.

[Blue Since 76]

thought Friend was good today.

another ref might've given a handball vs. Gabriel and/or penalized for a handbag that led to Sterling's penalty.
Nice to have a good refereeing performance again. although Mike Dean is officiating on Sunday so it could be back to poor officiating.

Apart from when Cresswell did a borderline red challenge on Sterling and we didn't even get a foul you mean?

Only Clattenburg would have given a handball for the one that hit Jesus. And that would only have been a penalty if it had happened in the centre circle.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

70% possession and one less card than a team that kicked the shit out of us for the whole of the second half.

[gmercer1]

70% possession and one less card than a team that kicked the shit out of us for the whole of the second half.

Same every week!

[Douglas Higginbottom]

The ref was just ok imo but was very lenient on some awful challenges which could have meant a few injuries for us ( might yet do for all we know). If he hadn't given that penalty it would have said loud and clear that Sterling just can't win.

[iwasthere2012]

The ref was just ok imo but was very lenient on some awful challenges which could have meant a few injuries for us ( might yet do for all we know). If he hadn't given that penalty it would have said loud and clear that Sterling just can't win.

Agree. I thought we got very little protection from the ref.
Going forward that could be a problem, if teams decide the only way to stop us is to kick lumps out of us.

[Beefymcfc]

The ref was just ok imo but was very lenient on some awful challenges which could have meant a few injuries for us ( might yet do for all we know). If he hadn't given that penalty it would have said loud and clear that Sterling just can't win.

Agree. I thought we got very little protection from the ref.
Going forward that could be a problem, if teams decide the only way to stop us is to kick lumps out of us.

These are the issues for me. Other teams see that sort of treatment and realise they can do what they want with little comeback. A couple of those tackles yesterday (Sterling and Silva) were near leg breakers and the deliberate smash by Carroll on Fernandinho was absolutely pathetic from Friend, who had to book him a minute later for another rash challenge on the touchline.

Then consider the one foul cards we get, leaving our players walking a tightrope from early in the game.

Other managers see these things and adopt it as part of their tactics and it's only because the PGMOL allow it.

[s1ty m]

WHU were filthy. They reminded me of Blackburn under Hughes.

[zuricity]

Another bad and worrying referee performance last night.

[nottsblue]

The ref was just ok imo but was very lenient on some awful challenges which could have meant a few injuries for us ( might yet do for all we know). If he hadn't given that penalty it would have said loud and clear that Sterling just can't win.

Agree. I thought we got very little protection from the ref.
Going forward that could be a problem, if teams decide the only way to stop us is to kick lumps out of us.

These are the issues for me. Other teams see that sort of treatment and realise they can do what they want with little comeback. A couple of those tackles yesterday (Sterling and Silva) were near leg breakers and the deliberate smash by Carroll on Fernandinho was absolutely pathetic from Friend, who had to book him a minute later for another rash challenge on the touchline.

Then consider the one foul cards we get, leaving our players walking a tightrope from early in the game.

Other managers see these things and adopt it as part of their tactics and it's only because the PGMOL allow it.

+1.
Mentioned this as a reason why someone like Messi would possibly not want to come to us in a thread a couple of weeks ago. They will look at the treatment Silva, Aguero and Sterling get and the fact the the perpetrators rarely get punished, thus allowing them basically a free ride.

How long before we get a serious injury? The blame can then be laid at the door of the referees and their incompetence

[Saul Goodman]

Another bad and worrying referee performance last night.

Really? Then i dont think you'll ever see a good one.

Cresswell was aggressive but i thought that was the best league Ref performance of the season

[zuricity]

Another bad and worrying referee performance last night.

Really? Then i dont think you'll ever see a good one.

Cresswell was aggressive but i thought that was the best league Ref performance of the season

Yes i will , but this season they have been particularly bad .

Players like Carroll can chat away for five minutes with the ref , even when clearly in the wrong and get away with it . Many of our players , perhaps kdb and Kompay are exceptions , simply cannot give it to the ref the way rooney , carroll or noble can .


That's why these refs think they are so great.

Another point, the soft cards we given yesterday were another example. A captain like john terry would have been on the refs case for such inconsistency ( noble vs Jesus) .

Officials get away with absolute garbage decisions.
I honestly don't think this lot could actually play the game, never mind ref it.

Get ex-pros to ref the games.

[Saul Goodman]

I know this is unique but im glad Friend carded Jesus.
We dont need players asking for the ref to card other players. Hopefully Jesus learned his lesson.

Now, if only refs would be consistent on this, which they arent

[iwasthere2012]

I know this is unique but im glad Friend carded Jesus.
We dont need players asking for the ref to card other players. Hopefully Jesus learned his lesson.

Now, if only refs would be consistent on this, which they arent

Wasn't even consistent in the same game, which is what the complaint is.
I think it was Doug, who said earlier, the ref was making an example of the new boy, putting him in his place.
It won't do him any harm in the long run, but those looking for a second yellow for the lad for winning the ball showed their true colours.
A free given for nothing while Jesus and Sterling both getting clattered on the same move didn't even warrant a free kick.

Gross inconsistency and still it's true, he wasn't the worst ref we've had.
I thought the linesmen were better than the normal standard we've had.

[zuricity]

I know this is unique but I'm glad Friend carded Jesus.
We don't need players asking for the ref to card other players. Hopefully Jesus learned his lesson.

Now, if only refs would be consistent on this, which they aren't

I am not , not at all !

This referee did his homework. He knew that Jesus was starting for the first time. All he needed to do was to pull Jesus over and say "Hey, we don't go around doing that in the Premier League, knock it off ". He didn't even give him a warning before hand. So no I don't accept this.

It is pathetic from a referee , especially when you see players diving in like Cresswell and lumps like Carroll barging into players.

We don't need Noble asking for cards either and he's been playing at the top in the PL for years. Now there is an even bigger reason to stamp this little thing out. The refs are crap in the PL. There isn't a single good one among them.

[Mase]

I know this is unique but I'm glad Friend carded Jesus.
We don't need players asking for the ref to card other players. Hopefully Jesus learned his lesson.

Now, if only refs would be consistent on this, which they aren't

I am not , not at all !

This referee did his homework. He knew that Jesus was starting for the first time. All he needed to do was to pull Jesus over and say "Hey, we don't go around doing that in the Premier League, knock it off ". He didn't even give him a warning before hand. So no I don't accept this.

It is pathetic from a referee , especially when you see players diving in like Cresswell and lumps like Carroll barging into players.

We don't need Noble asking for cards either and he's been playing at the top in the PL for years. Now there is an even bigger reason to stamp this little thing out. The refs are crap in the PL. There isn't a single good one among them.

I always find it amusing that a ref could never prove that a player is waving an imaginary card - unless he obviously says 'book him ref!!'

He could easily be holding an imaginary sign up that reads 'this ref is bent!'

[Saul Goodman]

I know this is unique but im glad Friend carded Jesus.
We dont need players asking for the ref to card other players. Hopefully Jesus learned his lesson.

Now, if only refs would be consistent on this, which they arent

Wasn't even consistent in the same game, which is what the complaint is.

Understood. I agree

[Original Dub]

And again.

[carl_feedthegoat]

And again.

100%..shocking and it has actually disrupted our rhythm.