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Re: sterling

Postby PeterParker » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:12 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


Foden was played out of position most of the game.
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Re: sterling

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:21 am

PeterParker wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


Foden was played out of position most of the game.


It's not a dig at Foden.
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Re: sterling

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:26 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


How many times did Foden charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass / out of play ?

How many times did Sterling charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass/ out of play ?

If we are going to play the stat game then lets do it properly.
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Re: sterling

Postby PeterParker » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:34 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


Foden was played out of position most of the game.


It's not a dig at Foden.


Didn't think it was, I was just pointing out he had an alibi. When he went on the side (somewhat his usual position), he ripped them a new one.
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Re: sterling

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:36 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


How many times did Foden charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass / out of play ?

How many times did Sterling charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass/ out of play ?

If we are going to play the stat game then lets do it properly.


No games Carl, just facts about the number of times he lost possession.
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Re: sterling

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:43 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


How many times did Foden charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass / out of play ?

How many times did Sterling charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass/ out of play ?

If we are going to play the stat game then lets do it properly.


No games Carl, just facts about the number of times he lost possession .


In yesterdays game.

Your so called facts are made to suit your timid argument - to lose the ball you need to have the ball and for how long did you have the ball ? and then you need more stats to add to losing the ball/ retrieving a lost ball and forcing opponent into a mistake trying to get the ball back--- so many variables to compare 2 players stats.

You do this all the time...leaving out so much information.
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Re: sterling

Postby City64 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:43 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
City64 wrote:Yesterday highlighted what a genius Pep is and makes him stand out more than any manager in the world . Little tactical weeks here and there and the subtle little changes at half time totally put us on the front front foot after surviving the first half dipper pressing . Bringing on Gab Jesus to press high late on totally destroyed a tiring dipper team and possibly destroyed Alissons career .
Awesome results awesome 2nd half performance awesome manager.



Why didn't he change it in the first half ? I have always wondered about this.

The dippers were always there for the taking , having been shit for most of the season. I knew PeP would change it the second half but why wait till then ?

There is obviously a reason for it.

Possibly he knew City were fitter and stronger than the injury hit dippers plus Mane and Fabinho were coming back from injury and not quite 100% ? Ride out the dipper press relatively comfortably first half then hit them hard second half ? then change it again last 20 minutes and totally destroy them with our own high press as they tire and become nervous ?
Perfect game plan !
Very difficult to blow away any top 6 PL club in the first half of any match imho .
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Re: sterling

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:10 pm

@Carl
The facts were disputing your claim that he loses the ball more than ever, that's all.

If you really want answers to your other questions then a lot of them are contained in here.

https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-manchester-city/rU

Leaving stats out of it, I saw a player driving at Liverpool's defence in the second half looking to make things happen and they did, the opening goal came from it. He played very well, ok first half ( in which he won a pen from again driving at their defenders), excellent second half.
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Re: sterling

Postby Dimples » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:14 pm

We scored four goals and missed a penalty.

Sterling won the penalty, made the first and scored the third. Heavily involved in three out of five, at Anfield where we had not won in centuries.
He did not cause us to lose any goals, the opposite I think because he worked hard, like he always does.

Top class performance in my book. Well done Sterling.
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Re: sterling

Postby s1ty m » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:06 pm

He should run at defences more, it's when he's most threatening.
After the ball was centred, after the whistle blew...
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Re: sterling

Postby Outcast » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:16 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:how many times did he just stop and play the easy ball backwards?
brilliant when he can just play on instinct, verging on useless when he has time to think.


He loses the ball more now than ever before...some just cannot see it and brush it under the carpet.

People defend him because ''everyone'' played poorly that first half...well I'm sorry , but 350 k a week players are supposed to drag other players up a notch when performances are low....and also , wasn't he the supposed Captain yesterday ?..if so..diabolical.

Anyway ..yes he played well in the second half and deserves credit for it but players like him need to be performing for the full 90 and not just the 45.


He lost the ball 15 times, exact same number of times as Foden.


How many times did Foden charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass / out of play ?

How many times did Sterling charge back and win it back or force them into a bad pass/ out of play ?

If we are going to play the stat game then lets do it properly.


No games Carl, just facts about the number of times he lost possession .


In yesterdays game.

Your so called facts are made to suit your timid argument - to lose the ball you need to have the ball and for how long did you have the ball ? and then you need more stats to add to losing the ball/ retrieving a lost ball and forcing opponent into a mistake trying to get the ball back--- so many variables to compare 2 players stats.

You do this all the time...leaving out so much information.[/quote]

I think you're being too harsh on Sterling. What are the alternatives? He brings pace and caused havoc in opposition defence, yes he can be clumsy and finishing can be piss poor, I'd rather focus on the positives and he's much better option than Mahrez.
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Re: sterling

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm

I am harsh but I expect a player who is in the top level of the wage scale to influence a game more over the 90 minutes and not go hiding , albeit unintentionally, for half the game .

Some fans on here don’t see it that way - fine , but I say it how I see it .
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Re: sterling

Postby patrickblue » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:08 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I am harsh but I expect a player who is in the top level of the wage scale to influence a game more over the 90 minutes and not go hiding , albeit unintentionally, for half the game .

Some fans on here don’t see it that way - fine , but I say it how I see it .


To be fair, you don't see anything of Kun usually, until he scores.
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Re: sterling

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:08 pm

Sterling for me had one of his most complete games He is nowhere near the technical level of Foden or Gundo., but he is a fantastic asset and rated by the best manager in the planet. Team player with amazing numbers, for the length of service we could get for me is a bargain.
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Re: sterling

Postby stupot » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:20 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Sterling for me had one of his most complete games He is nowhere near the technical level of Foden or Gundo., but he is a fantastic asset and rated by the best manager in the planet. Team player with amazing numbers, for the length of service we could get for me is a bargain.

Didn't think he had the best 1st half but very few did, still won the pen though and still worked his bollocks off.
He was fantastic 2nd half.
What he NEVER does is hide.
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Re: sterling

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:46 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Sterling for me had one of his most complete games He is nowhere near the technical level of Foden or Gundo., but he is a fantastic asset and rated by the best manager in the planet. Team player with amazing numbers, for the length of service we could get for me is a bargain.


No he didn't have a complete game..he had a shit half and a great half........not even debatable Hazy , FFS !

Hes a great asset and that's a fair comment .
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Re: sterling

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:34 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Sterling for me had one of his most complete games He is nowhere near the technical level of Foden or Gundo., but he is a fantastic asset and rated by the best manager in the planet. Team player with amazing numbers, for the length of service we could get for me is a bargain.


No he didn't have a complete game..he had a shit half and a great half........not even debatable Hazy , FFS !

Hes a great asset and that's a fair comment .


I accept that, but we created 1 thing in that half it was him. All in all atop player worth more respect IMO
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Re: sterling

Postby sheblue » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:44 pm

Great lad great player.
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Re: sterling

Postby Zezou » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:51 pm

Dimples wrote:We scored four goals and missed a penalty.

Sterling won the penalty, made the first and scored the third. Heavily involved in three out of five, at Anfield where we had not won in centuries.
He did not cause us to lose any goals, the opposite I think because he worked hard, like he always does.

Top class performance in my book. Well done Sterling.


Spot on, I really can't see how this is up for debate.

It's expected for a winger to lose possession more than (say) a holding cm as the winger takes chances running at defenders or playing difficult passes/crosses with high risk of interception.

Sterling was very very good on Sunday, as he often is!
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Re: sterling

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:10 pm

Zezou wrote:
Dimples wrote:We scored four goals and missed a penalty.

Sterling won the penalty, made the first and scored the third. Heavily involved in three out of five, at Anfield where we had not won in centuries.
He did not cause us to lose any goals, the opposite I think because he worked hard, like he always does.

Top class performance in my book. Well done Sterling.


Spot on, I really can't see how this is up for debate.

It's expected for a winger to lose possession more than (say) a holding cm as the winger takes chances running at defenders or playing difficult passes/crosses with high risk of interception.

Sterling was very very good on Sunday, as he often is!


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