***Official Villa vs City Thread***

[Sister of fu]

can't see anything good from Edin. Maybe it is too soon to put him in. A game like this, Tevez is the only one who can break the defense. Edin's time must be waited.

I've just read 2 posts of yours today including this one and I am intrigued. The statement that you "can't see anything good about Edin" is utterly baffling.

My rag sensors are tingling like fuck at the moment..................

He has started a Bluemoon esq thread too on Tevez and Dzeko. I smell a rag!

[blues2win]

Ridiculous to have a go at Kolarov today. He was definitely one of our better players. Yaya looked tired after the midweek match and Barry for the second time at Villa Park seemed to be overawed by the Villa boo boys. Get over it Gareth FFS. David had his moments but he's not back to his best post injury. As for Dzeko FFS how can people almost write him off already. Ridiculous. Yes Carlos is selfish. Sometimes he wriggles past three players and scores a blinder, other times he loses possession when he should have passed as today. Frustrating.

However, more than anything your best chance against Villa's tactics is when one of their attacks breaks down. Trouble is they didn't commit many players forward at any time after the goal so they always had defenders to spare.

Bottom line DONT CONCEDE FIRST. Easier said than done of course.

[Burt]

can't see anything good from Edin. Maybe it is too soon to put him in. A game like this, Tevez is the only one who can break the defense. Edin's time must be waited.

I've just read 2 posts of yours today including this one and I am intrigued. The statement that you "can't see anything good about Edin" is utterly baffling.

My rag sensors are tingling like fuck at the moment..................

He has started a Bluemoon esq thread too on Tevez and Dzeko. I smell a rag!

OK Sis, let's ave a witch hunt and OUT the devilworshippin, rag bastard!!!

[Swales4ever]

Very interesting.Yet again we have started a game as if still under the effects of mogadon! Villa tactically have us sorted out.They are just sitting back asking us what we have and then threatening on the break if they can.

It was very noticeable when Kolarov pinged that ball accross to Silva on the right that he was already marked even though we were going down the left. Villa consistently had 6 across the back line and 3 in front of it.We are playing with little pace and little movement and if we stay like this a draw is the best we can hope for. I wonder how Mancini will change things second half.

And tell me, Douglas, providing that neither Mark Hughes's Mum do believe that Mancini give pill of mogadon at the players before ko, why the hell this very serious problem still continue to infect the City game?
You are right at notice it, and what did You understand at Carrington about fixing it?

[Swales4ever]

The format that the opposition are starting to use against us when they play at home is increasingly like the format they play away. By making City the "home" team i.e. putting everyone behind the ball, a straight bank of 5 and then 4 with one up top then counter when City misplace a pass after boring themselves with 30 meaningless passes in the centre circle is turning into 3 point golden template.

Everton showed everyone else how to do it and more managers are starting to implement it against us. The end result is we have 60% to 70% possession about 20 odd shots (all from distance) and hopelessly wide but no real threat upon their goalkeeper. They attack with speed and surprise and we all go home empty handed.

The only way to beat this format is to draw them out - by giving them more of the ball and let them commit players forward then counter them with a range of direct and high tempo passing plus movement.

By having too much of the ball at a shockingly slow pace we are helping the opposition to beat us.

Hope Roberto reads this.

Hope the Sheikh Himself reads this... So it will officially discovered that weaker opposition tends to block the opponent's game. Genius.
Managers manage, players play. What about the manager if Tevez do not pass the ball untill he has scored and celebrated with his daughters? I don't give a shit at throwing shit at Mancini when deserved (f.i. he wasted 30 minutes of excess of respect before substituting a senior England Int.nal), but what a fuck a manager can say during the match to a man who does not speak a word of english after half a decade of residence in order to let him understand not to occupy the Dzeko's channels?

what a fuck a manager can say during the match to a tall man like Kolo when he likes to be overtaken by Agbonlahor! at aerial challenges?

Stop moaning at the managers, let them work and ask the players to do the same. When this happens, usually Clubs starts to win...

[Swales4ever]

Title aspirations gone. Possesion but no penetration. Just like watching soft core ;)

That's great, Sir!... :-)
It sum it up brillantly.

[blues2win]

Daniel Taylor tweeting that a Benefica delegation is in London trying to finalise negotiations with Chelsea for David Luiz. FFS. I will hate it just hate it if we lose Luiz to them.

[Swales4ever]

I do hope I don't hear about our team being tired or it just wasnt our day we did everything but score. Truth is we got it wrong from the start and played poorly.Towards the end we got a bit closer when AJ came on and we worked how to get him in the game but overall we didn't desreve to win as we played crap.

How many titles have been won by winning only when deserved?
In the whole history of all sports, I mean...

[Arjan Van Schotte]

I do hope I don't hear about our team being tired or it just wasnt our day we did everything but score. Truth is we got it wrong from the start and played poorly.Towards the end we got a bit closer when AJ came on and we worked how to get him in the game but overall we didn't desreve to win as we played crap.

How many titles have been won by winning only when deserved?
In the whole history of all sports, I mean...

probably most of them. people occasionally get lucky but generally the best team etc wins the title.

[Swales4ever]

can't see anything good from Edin. Maybe it is too soon to put him in. A game like this, Tevez is the only one who can break the defense. Edin's time must be waited.

I've just read 2 posts of yours today including this one and I am intrigued. The statement that you "can't see anything good about Edin" is utterly baffling.

My rag sensors are tingling like fuck at the moment..................

He has started a Bluemoon esq thread too on Tevez and Dzeko. I smell a rag!

yes, but surely he is a NQDP's favourite, not a new kid in town.... :-)
So, he is entitled.


Sorry for hijacking Your's, Andy... :-)

[Swales4ever]

I do hope I don't hear about our team being tired or it just wasnt our day we did everything but score. Truth is we got it wrong from the start and played poorly.Towards the end we got a bit closer when AJ came on and we worked how to get him in the game but overall we didn't desreve to win as we played crap.

How many titles have been won by winning only when deserved?
In the whole history of all sports, I mean...

probably most of them. people occasionally get lucky but generally the best team etc wins the title.

My english is poor but what about Yours?

[Arjan Van Schotte]

I do hope I don't hear about our team being tired or it just wasnt our day we did everything but score. Truth is we got it wrong from the start and played poorly.Towards the end we got a bit closer when AJ came on and we worked how to get him in the game but overall we didn't desreve to win as we played crap.

How many titles have been won by winning only when deserved?
In the whole history of all sports, I mean...

probably most of them. people occasionally get lucky but generally the best team etc wins the title.

My english is poor but what about Yours?

shocking pal but wtf are you on about you daft wazzack?

[Swales4ever]

I do hope I don't hear about our team being tired or it just wasnt our day we did everything but score. Truth is we got it wrong from the start and played poorly.Towards the end we got a bit closer when AJ came on and we worked how to get him in the game but overall we didn't desreve to win as we played crap.

How many titles have been won by winning only when deserved?
In the whole history of all sports, I mean...

probably most of them. people occasionally get lucky but generally the best team etc wins the title.

My english is poor but what about Yours?

shocking pal but wtf are you on about you daft wazzack?

Doug was saying: "You can only win when You deserve to"
I replied: "No one champhionship in the whole history of all sports had been won by only winning when deserved."

As usual, according to NQDP's instruction when I am right, I must be ignored.
So the legend that I am a WUM who cannot debate on this forum because do not own the language can be spread...
Cheers Mate.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

Doug was saying: "You can only win when You deserve to"
I replied: "No one champhionship in the whole history of all sports had been won by only winning when deserved."

As usual, according to NQDP's instruction when I am right, I must be ignored.
So the legend that I am a WUM who cannot debate on this forum because do not own the language can be spread...
Cheers Mate.

i reckon you "cannot debate on this forum" because you are a bit of a dicksplash tbh.

why ask me about my english language skills?

[Swales4ever]

Doug was saying: "You can only win when You deserve to"
I replied: "No one champhionship in the whole history of all sports had been won by only winning when deserved."

As usual, according to NQDP's instruction when I am right, I must be ignored.
So the legend that I am a WUM who cannot debate on this forum because do not own the language can be spread...
Cheers Mate.

i reckon you "cannot debate on this forum" because you are a bit of a dicksplash tbh.

[highlight]why ask me about my english language skills?[/highlight]

Simply because You don't, or perhaps I'd better say You pretend not to, understand 2 lines written in a very basical english, which a 7 years old, not affected by mental retard will understand promptly.
More intriguingly, why did You chose to reply just to the only post, that simply did not need any?
a) because 2+2=4 do not need any reply;
b) because, in case, only DH could be able to reply and better explain his thought.
why not picking any of the other open questions I offered above?

How far I am wrong when If guess that You have been just appointed as new secretary.... rrrmm... slave to the Finn Slave charged with the task to force me out?

WONDERWALL, CAN YOU UNDERSTAND: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN? NEVER, EVER.
I DID GIVE YOU PLENTY OF EVIDENCES.
I DID SHOW YOU I CAN BE AS VIOLENT AS ANY OF YOUR FORMER ARMY SNIPERS
I DID SHOW YOU I CAN BE AS A WIND UP MERCHANT AS YOUR SLAVE YOU CALL A MODERATOR.

NOW YOU THROW AT ME ANOTHER GENIOUS WHO ISNT ABLE TO FILL A LINE WITHOUT USING AT LEAST A DEROGATIVE WORD, WHAT I MUST DO WITH YOU?

DO YOU REALLY WANT ME BAD?

'nite

[Arjan Van Schotte]

Doug was saying: "You can only win when You deserve to"
I replied: "No one champhionship in the whole history of all sports had been won by only winning when deserved."

As usual, according to NQDP's instruction when I am right, I must be ignored.
So the legend that I am a WUM who cannot debate on this forum because do not own the language can be spread...
Cheers Mate.

i reckon you "cannot debate on this forum" because you are a bit of a dicksplash tbh.

[highlight]why ask me about my english language skills?[/highlight]

Simply because You don't, or perhaps I'd better say You pretend not to, understand 2 lines written in a very basical english, which a 7 years old, not affected by mental retard will understand promptly.
More intriguingly, why did You chose to reply just to the only post, that simply did not need any?
a) because 2+2=4 do not need any reply;
b) because, in case, only DH could be able to reply and better explain his thought.
why not picking any of the other open questions I offered above?

How far I am wrong when If guess that You have been just appointed as new secretary.... rrrmm... slave to the Finn Slave charged with the task to force me out?

WONDERWALL, CAN YOU UNDERSTAND: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN? NEVER, EVER.
I DID GIVE YOU PLENTY OF EVIDENCES.
I DID SHOW YOU I CAN BE AS VIOLENT AS ANY OF YOUR FORMER ARMY SNIPERS
I DID SHOW YOU I CAN BE AS A WIND UP MERCHANT AS YOUR SLAVE YOU CALL A MODERATOR.

NOW YOU THROW AT ME ANOTHER GENIOUS WHO ISNT ABLE TO FILL A LINE WITHOUT USING AT LEAST A DEROGATIVE WORD, WHAT I MUST DO WITH YOU?

DO YOU REALLY WANT ME BAD?

'nite

yep - deffo dicksplash. thanks for coming love. even your comedy value has wained.

[Ted Hughes]

Question: When's the last time City dominated a game like that away from home at somewhere like Villa? Has it ever happened in the Prem?

Today, we were officially a BIG side. We played a team who have spent the past week practicing trying to stop us & had a goal start. We're not used to it, unsurprisingly because, in the past, we've never been the kind of team Villa would do that against; we are now.

We've seen it before though; WE'VE done it to Utd, Arsenal & Chelsea at COMS, before the Sheikh came. Did that make them poor teams?

Look, we already knew before today that we struggle to break down massed defences & that we need a plan B. Today, we put one or two better balls in, than we've done for ages. Kolarov delivered a couple of great corners, Johnson put a beauty on Dzeko's head EXACTLY the things we need to break down the Villas & Evertons but Dzeko missed. He does miss em but if we start putting that quality in, he'll start to score them as well.

Hart dropped a clanger, we could have moved the ball a bit quicker, Silva & Tevez were't at their best etc BUT, we were & are a fucking top side, we attacked & attacked & didn't quite manage to win. Nobody was hopeless like they have been in some games, nothing was catastrophically wrong, Bob wasn't negative, Kolarov & Boateng weren't liabilities, we ran the show ffs.

We're not quite there yet, we're just a work in progress & still have stuff to learn. This kind of thing may happen to us again & it may have cost us the title already but If we keep possesion like that, sooner or later, we'll learn to solve it & when we do, we'll fuck everybody. This season may be a bit too early but it's still not quite over yet. Lets win as many as we can & see what happens.

Houllier knows how good City are already, he made a point of saying so.

[craigmcfc]

Mancio, why do you persist in taking threads down this route? All this "the world's against me" or in your case "everyone on this forum is against me" is getting boring and slightly irritating now

In the match thread I was quite pleased to see you posting again and, I thought, back to how you were when you first came on here. But here you are again looking for a fight.

Seriously, how many different people on here do you need to ask you to stop being so confrontational, argumentative and, on occasion, downright rude? Stop playing the victim and look at how you are posting on here

[Beefymcfc]

Very interesting.Yet again we have started a game as if still under the effects of mogadon! Villa tactically have us sorted out.They are just sitting back asking us what we have and then threatening on the break if they can.

It was very noticeable when Kolarov pinged that ball accross to Silva on the right that he was already marked even though we were going down the left. Villa consistently had 6 across the back line and 3 in front of it.We are playing with little pace and little movement and if we stay like this a draw is the best we can hope for. I wonder how Mancini will change things second half.

And tell me, Douglas, providing that neither Mark Hughes's Mum do believe that Mancini give pill of mogadon at the players before ko, why the hell this very serious problem still continue to infect the City game?
You are right at notice it, and what did You understand at Carrington about fixing it?

Ha ha ha, brilliant. Can't question Doug direct so tries to assassinate him through the medium of DickHead4 Eva!

The word of the day is 'Tit'.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Question: When's the last time City dominated a game like that away from home at somewhere like Villa? Has it ever happened in the Prem?

Today, we were officially a BIG side. We played a team who have spent the past week practicing trying to stop us & had a goal start. We're not used to it, unsurprisingly because, in the past, we've never been the kind of team Villa would do that against; we are now.

We've seen it before though; WE'VE done it to Utd, Arsenal & Chelsea at COMS, before the Sheikh came. Did that make them poor teams?

Look, we already knew before today that we struggle to break down massed defences & that we need a plan B. Today, we put one or two better balls in, than we've done for ages. Kolarov delivered a couple of great corners, Johnson put a beauty on Dzeko's head EXACTLY the things we need to break down the Villas & Evertons but Dzeko missed. He does miss em but if we start putting that quality in, he'll start to score them as well.

Hart dropped a clanger, we could have moved the ball a bit quicker, Silva & Tevez were't at their best etc BUT, we were & are a fucking top side, we attacked & attacked & didn't quite manage to win. Nobody was hopeless like they have been in some games, nothing was catastrophically wrong, Bob wasn't negative, Kolarov & Boateng weren't liabilities, we ran the show ffs.

We're not quite there yet, we're just a work in progress & still have stuff to learn. This kind of thing may happen to us again & it may have cost us the title already but If we keep possesion like that, sooner or later, we'll learn to solve it & when we do, we'll fuck everybody. This season may be a bit too early but it's still not quite over yet. Lets win as many as we can & see what happens.

Houllier knows how good City are already, he made a point of saying so.

I like this post even though I feel overlooks the weaknesses we displayed. It's absolutely right that we are a top side and correctly recognised as such. I think to a certain extent that the team have actually started believing this. Whilst that can be a good thing it can also create an overconfidence but maybe would explain why we sometimes start so slowly..

I watched today as we kicked off and passed the ball around for 2 minutes without seeming to be looking for an attack and without Villa giving a monkeys that we had the ball.For some reason I was quite concerned as it suggested to me that the players thought that ,don't worry we will just play the ball around and sooner or later we will find a way through and score a goal.

Ok maybe the players were thinking nothing of the sort but it's the impression I got.There was quality to a point but where was the pace and movement? It didnt seem like well into the 2nd half that we really looked as though we meant it but by then it seemed almost inevitable that we wouldnt score.

Whilst I havent read all this thread I saw that Mancio posted Doug was saying: "You can only win when You deserve to" I suspect that is a weird interpretation of something I said and it's garbage.Plenty of teams win when they don't deserve to and maybe City have done before ( I can't remember many) but I think I said I hope I don't hear anyone from City saying we did everything but score as I don't think that is true. I happen to think we were poor tonight and very lacking in attacking ideas and threat..

But it is just one game. I said earlier today that with 16 games left we certainly won't win them all and probably will lose one or two. C'est la vie.It's just disappointing to lose one like this against a team we shouldnt be losing to. Maybe we will make up for it in an away game against a team we would be expected to beat.