Tevez

[Dameerto]

It doesn't mean it was incorrect, it means they haven't been able to prove it. That's not the same thing.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I sorta had a suspicion that Mancini had misunderstood and then overreacted...how embarrassing, pundits and coaches all weighed in on Tevez's refusal to play and possible punishments and now it appears it was all incorrect. We should still sell him though...

Why does it appear incorrect? Because the media are speculating based on what Kia has concocted?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the paper that broke this 'nobody will back up Mancini' story was the Mirror, the same paper that carried the quote from Zabaleta the day after the event saying " Carlos just didn't want to play ". This quote from Zaba backs Mancini up, so for me they are talking through their arse as usual.

The only reason City will not pursue the refusal to play charge is because their evidence is not watertight in a court of law, there is reasonable doubt attached.

Not embarrassing at all, unless you want it to be.

[Alex Sapphire]

I sorta had a suspicion that Mancini had misunderstood and then overreacted...how embarrassing, pundits and coaches all weighed in on Tevez's refusal to play and possible punishments and now it appears it was all incorrect. We should still sell him though...

woooah

there's no mistake here.
Tevez refused an instruction from his seniors, whether it was "warm up" "get ready to go on" or "warm up and get ready to go on".
There is nothing in the garbage in the mirror which suggests otherwise. There is a direct link between the coaching team's requirement that he prepares to play and him playing. because of that his refusal of any part of the instruction amounts to a refusal to all of it.

if dad tells son to get his jimjams on and go to bed and the little guy sits in his school uniform saying "no" he's only refused to get changed, right?


there's no overreaction either

if a member of staff can't be relied on to follow instructions and proves it in the most sensitive and public of circumstances , then what other reaction would you expect than "I won't be able to work with this guy anymore"

the embarrassment should be all carlito's. I'd been waiting 40 odd years for that night and my lad all his life. Tevez decided his little battle was more important than the hopes and dreams of us and many like us. Now that's embarrassing. And unforgivable

[steveo_88]

Anyone softened their stance yet?

I've only ever booed one player, Mcmanananaman after he came on and played shite, if this joke plays again I'll do more than boo! There's plenty of people around me who never want to see him in Manchester again let alone a Blue shirt!

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Anyone softened their stance yet?

My stance has been pretty much the same for some time.
If you accept that all players are mercenary fuckers..... then Tevez is just a particularly bad example of it.
I'd play him as soon as fit, because he is a damn good player. Would I cheer him like a fucker if he scored a winner at the flea pit this weekend? You'd better believe it.
Mancini handled it badly with his hot headed reaction at the time. He is meant to be calm, but he threw the toys out.

[phips]

I sorta had a suspicion that Mancini had misunderstood and then overreacted...how embarrassing, pundits and coaches all weighed in on Tevez's refusal to play and possible punishments and now it appears it was all incorrect. We should still sell him though...

woooah
there's no mistake here.

I simply meant a misunderstanding over refusing to warm up (again) and coming on as a sub.
of course he shouldve done either one when asked by Mancini. Im not vindicating him of anything.
stick him in the reserves and sell him. i just had a suspicion that Tevez had refused to warm up again
rather than refusing to come on as a sub. either way, he is still in violation of his contract
and is a dick and deserves to be punished.

i completely agree that it was all carlos' fault and he embarrassed himself and, more importantly, the club.
all im saying in regards to mancini's reaction is that he unleashed a bit of a scathing attack in the heat of
the moment out of disgust and anger about something which, allegedly, he didnt have sufficient proof of.
that was a bit of a mistake in my opinion. to publically tar and feather tevez without any sort of inquisition
and investigation. thats all im saying. I'm all for Mancini criticizing Tevez and the club punishing him;
I just wish Mancini had done a little digging and investigating before going off on him.

[feedthegreek]

has tevez played in the champs yet?

By refusing to come on as a sub did he avoid being cup tied?

according to goal . com match report he came on got 6.5 marks as sub
for edin i think.

[Beefymcfc]

Anyone softened their stance yet?

I've only ever booed one player, Mcmanananaman after he came on and played shite, if this joke plays again I'll do more than boo! There's plenty of people around me who never want to see him in Manchester again let alone a Blue shirt!

I'll be on the concourse mate, close to the bar I reckon. I won't boo though.

[Bluebananas]

Apparently the charges have been altered by the blues so I'm not to happy.

[WiganBlue]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2011/October/club-statement-Carlos-Tevez-Oct-25

Manchester City Football Club can confirm that a disciplinary hearing has been concluded in relation to a charge of misconduct by Carlos Tevez.

The charge relates to events during the Champions League match against Bayern Munich on 27 September 2011.

Following a detailed investigation and associated hearing, a disciplinary panel has upheld the charge of misconduct. Five separate breaches of contract formed the basis of the decision by the panel.

As a result Carlos Tevez has been fined four weeks’ wages and has been suspended for a period of two weeks (deemed to have already been served). He has received a written warning as to his future conduct.

Carlos Tevez has been informed in writing of the decision of the disciplinary panel, and the Club has written to the Professional Footballers Association for ratification of the fine. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are:

1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official.

2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him.

3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club.

4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute).

5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club.

Carlos Tevez has the right to appeal this decision to the Board of the Club. Any appeal must be made within 14 days.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2011/October/club-statement-Carlos-Tevez-Oct-25

Manchester City Football Club can confirm that a disciplinary hearing has been concluded in relation to a charge of misconduct by Carlos Tevez.

The charge relates to events during the Champions League match against Bayern Munich on 27 September 2011.

Following a detailed investigation and associated hearing, a disciplinary panel has upheld the charge of misconduct. Five separate breaches of contract formed the basis of the decision by the panel.

As a result Carlos Tevez has been fined four weeks’ wages and has been suspended for a period of two weeks (deemed to have already been served). He has received a written warning as to his future conduct.

Carlos Tevez has been informed in writing of the decision of the disciplinary panel, and the Club has written to the Professional Footballers Association for ratification of the fine. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are:

1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official.

2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him.

3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club.

4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute).

5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club.

Carlos Tevez has the right to appeal this decision to the Board of the Club. Any appeal must be made within 14 days.

Does that mean he will be in the team against Wolves tomorrow?

[Mark (Blue Army)]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2011/October/club-statement-Carlos-Tevez-Oct-25

Manchester City Football Club can confirm that a disciplinary hearing has been concluded in relation to a charge of misconduct by Carlos Tevez.

The charge relates to events during the Champions League match against Bayern Munich on 27 September 2011.

Following a detailed investigation and associated hearing, a disciplinary panel has upheld the charge of misconduct. Five separate breaches of contract formed the basis of the decision by the panel.

As a result Carlos Tevez has been fined four weeks’ wages and has been suspended for a period of two weeks (deemed to have already been served). He has received a written warning as to his future conduct.

Carlos Tevez has been informed in writing of the decision of the disciplinary panel, and the Club has written to the Professional Footballers Association for ratification of the fine. The five contractual obligations found by the disciplinary panel to have been breached are:

1. An obligation to participate in any matches in which the player is selected to play for the club when directed by a Club official.

2. An obligation to undertake such other duties and to participate in such other activities as are consistent with the performance of the player’s duties and as are reasonably required of him.

3. An obligation to comply with and act in accordance with all lawful instructions of any authorised official of the Club.

4. An obligation to observe the statutes and regulations of FIFA and UEFA, the FA Rules, the League Rules, the Code of Practice and the Club rules, including but not limited to breach of Rule E3(1) of the FA Rules (obligation on the player all times to act in the best interests of the game and not act in any manner which is improper or which brings the game into disrepute).

5. An obligation not to knowingly or recklessly do anything or omit to do anything which is likely to bring the Club or the game of football into disrepute or cause the player or the Club to be in breach of the Rules (as defined in the contract) or cause damage to the Club.

Carlos Tevez has the right to appeal this decision to the Board of the Club. Any appeal must be made within 14 days.

Does that mean he will be in the team against Wolves tomorrow?

Yeah, he would be allowed to play tomorrow but I can't see it happening.

[Yffi_88]

no chance....

surely??

[Dameerto]

So they couldn't prove gross misconduct (which would have been grounds for terminating his contract) but they have been able to prove misconduct. Pretty much all they could do really. Paves the way for his exit in January now, IF we can find a team daft enough to risk him (and rich enough to afford him).

[bigblue]

So they couldn't prove gross misconduct (which would have been grounds for terminating his contract) but they have been able to prove misconduct. Pretty much all they could do really. Paves the way for his exit in January now, IF we can find a team daft enough to risk him (and rich enough to afford him).

plenty will line up to sign him. If we knock 10 mil off the price he should be able to go quickly. Still hope to never see him again in a City shirt (even on the bench)

[Mase]

I'd definitely make him play a few reserve matches now. And as soon as he refuses, get him out!

[saulman]

The further Tevez has been from the team this season, the better they have been.
Let's keep it that way.

I'd fuck him off to a training camp in Syberia till Jan (Rocky IV style) and then sell the little bastard to the highest bidder outside the Prem.

[gillie]

I want him on the bench in the CL and brought on in injury time so no big club in Europe will touch him as he would be cup tied in the CL.

[Jdoe235]

I thought he was already cup tied. He came on for Dzeko against Napoli.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I want him on the bench in the CL and brought on in injury time so no big club in Europe will touch him as he would be cup tied in the CL.

Hes already cup tied you fuckign Alzheimer !