***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

[PeterParker]

I think many of you are a bit harsh with Dzeko. Remember just how many times he saved our arsed in the past.

We shouldn't have started today, he should had been all game with Wigan and rest Sergio there and used him today. The only reason Big Ed was used today is SUPERSTITION, he scored 4 last year. Stupid decision, but that is the reason he played. FACT.

If we would have won 1-0, we would have said he played ok, mediocre. I think we must focus on our defence, that is what cost us today. Hart and Vinnie have really shitty performances lately. Maybe they are off to Barcelona.

[zabbadabbado]

time for over reacting yawn fucking yawn.

We lost a game that is all.Injuries cost us today nothing else.He pushed Lescott up front because he did not want to risk Aguero.

We need to spend big this summer and give Roberto and open cheque book,We lack depth and it has cost us this season,if we had got De Rossi and Hazzard like Roberto wanted things would be much different.

Next season we will be unstoppable under Roberto Mancini.

Injuries cost us?!? Are you blind?

no i am not.

Miner of injured,we lost our energy second half and had to play Kolorov.That was a game changing event on its own.

We had to start with Dzeko instead of Aguero,that was significant.

No Silva that was significant.

All 3 contributed heavily today's defeat.We don't have quality cover we lack depth.What is roberto supposed to do ?.

It is my opinion that some just choose to ignore the obvious because they have a personal agenda against Roberto Mancini.

How will you explain him sending Lescott at the end?

I have gone through all your posts and it seems to me that you are missing the obvious. How on earth does AVB with a far worse squad and also plagued by injuries has managed to keep his squad in top 4 contention? How on earth is United with a far far worse squad f*cking winning the title? Why did Mancini resort to 3 at the back in many games when it became obvious that it is hurting us?

I had faith in Mancini but this and the Everton games have destroyed it. And what personal agenda would I or any of the fans have against Mancini? This season isn't a disappointment because we are losing but because we know that we are performing below our capacity.

Come on mate you know he did not want to risk tweaking Aguero hamstring.

I don't base my opinion on individual collective performances,that you have singled out.I see the bigger picture,this is our second best season in donkeys years,we might also add our 4th trophy under Roberto,i call that progress,what ever way you want to look at it.Basically i see the bigger picture.

[Beefymcfc]

Andddddddddddd, cue Meltdown.

See you all next week chaps.

Your all over everyone when we win so how about showing some fucking bolloks when we lose like this????

I'm still here pal but can't see the point of continuing in the match thread. There's a few good posts but when it just transcends into 'Mancini is a cunt' then there's no real debate.

It's OK looking at this with a very narrow view but just look at the time-frame off their 3 goals, what was it, 7 minutes?

1st goal, great ball by Bale which Vince could've almost certainly got to. He didn't and there was no runner tracking Dempsey. Why?

2nd goal, everybody knows what Defoe is going to try and do but Vince allows him on the inside. Dreadful mistake and one that Vince should not be making.

3rd goal, a little bit lucky to be fair with the ball ricochetting back into Bale's feet. Nice finish.

Now, given that it took 7 minutes to score those 3 and the fact that we had enough defensive players to shut it out, I'm not sure if a change would've made any difference whatso ever, considering the options on the bench.

Also consider, Sinclair was already ready to come on as we needed a goal, it wasn't from a lack of tactics that we lost, it was through a lack of discipline and concentration from our defensive players.

[Sideshow Bob]

I think many of you are a bit harsh with Dzeko. Remember just how many times he saved our arsed in the past.

We shouldn't have started today, he should had been all game with Wigan and rest Sergio there and used him today. The only reason Big Ed was used today is SUPERSTITION, he scored 4 last year. Stupid decision, but that is the reason he played. FACT.

If we would have won 1-0, we would have said he played ok, mediocre. I think we must focus on our defence, that is what cost us today. Hart and Vinnie have really shitty performances lately. Maybe they are off to Barcelona.

Mate if Dzeko showed the least bit of fight or desire I could forgive nearly everything else. But its clear from his performance today that he just does not give a fuck about our club anymore. I will pay for his one way ticket to Munich myself.

[Feed The Goat]

Come on mate you know he did not want to risk tweaking Aguero hamstring.

I don't base my opinion on individual collective performances,that you have singled out.I see the bigger picture,this is our second best season in donkeys years,we might also add our 4th trophy under Roberto,i call that progress,what ever way you want to look at it.Basically i see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is nearly any prem manager given Mancini resources should beat the teams we did up to the semi in fa cup but I also believe they'd be pushing all the way for the title and we haven't done that this year.

That's the disappointment we should be doing better this season. Yes I know x amount of years ago we were shit I was there too but I also know we had no money then we also didn't have some of the finest players in the world turning out for us week in week out. If you are happy to be surrendering the league so easily then I think the problem is with you not us

[guv111]

Back to our old profligate ways. We had good chances to go 2-0 up and blew them - after that it was just a matter of time. Too many days like this this season. Pissed off.

[Beefymcfc]

Mancini should have changed things before they scored their first. Spurs were coming at us and it didn't look like stopping.
He tried to ride his luck and it went against him. Then he left it again and they scored their second. You know the rest.
You can blame defenders or whatever, but he needed to add something to our play or put some energy into the team via subs before we got in to the state we finished in.
The boss is in charge of making the decisions and he didn't make any, so allowed the spuds to take control and have freedom against a lethargic and un-inspired team.

this is spot on. boas made changes and the game changed. we should have strengthened the midfield and didnt. therefore we got battered in midfield game over

Who'd be your choice mate, Garcia, Kolo, Sinclair? None of them would've bolstered the midfield and that's why Tevez dropped.

The biggest problem came at half-time when Jimmy came off. Nobody else has the work-rate or guts to do what he does, except for the commitment of Tevez.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

time for over reacting yawn fucking yawn.

We lost a game that is all.Injuries cost us today nothing else.He pushed Lescott up front because he did not want to risk Aguero.

We need to spend big this summer and give Roberto and open cheque book,We lack depth and it has cost us this season,if we had got De Rossi and Hazzard like Roberto wanted things would be much different.

Next season we will be unstoppable under Roberto Mancini.

Jesus Christ.
We have the highest wage bill in the league. He has spent massive resources. He played Dzeko, a player he signed for 27million fucking squidllies. He has the luxury of having his top striker out and to bring in one of the most expensive front men in the the country. And you offer that as an excuse?
Get fucking real, it isn't a valid argument.

[Beefymcfc]

time for over reacting yawn fucking yawn.

We lost a game that is all.Injuries cost us today nothing else.He pushed Lescott up front because he did not want to risk Aguero.

We need to spend big this summer and give Roberto and open cheque book,We lack depth and it has cost us this season,if we had got De Rossi and Hazzard like Roberto wanted things would be much different.

Next season we will be unstoppable under Roberto Mancini.

Jesus Christ.
We have the highest wage bill in the league. He has spent massive resources. He played Dzeko, a player he signed for 27million fucking squidllies. He has the luxury of having his top striker out and to bring in one of the most expensive front men in the the country. And you offer that as an excuse?
Get fucking real, it isn't a valid argument.

Pic's, who would you have played? Obviously playing Sergio was a risk and one that he didn't want to take (I wouldn't either) so surely there can only be one other option looking at the squad available?

No Sergio, no Dave, Jimmy goes off with a strained hamstring. What other options do we have?

[zabbadabbado]

Come on mate you know he did not want to risk tweaking Aguero hamstring.

I don't base my opinion on individual collective performances,that you have singled out.I see the bigger picture,this is our second best season in donkeys years,we might also add our 4th trophy under Roberto,i call that progress,what ever way you want to look at it.Basically i see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is nearly any prem manager given Mancini resources should beat the teams we did up to the semi in fa cup but I also believe they'd be pushing all the way for the title and we haven't done that this year.

That's the disappointment we should be doing better this season. Yes I know x amount of years ago we were shit I was there too but I also know we had no money then we also didn't have some of the finest players in the world turning out for us week in week out. If you are happy to be surrendering the league so easily then I think the problem is with you not us

Maybe your right and i am wrong.

I never go as far as saying everything is perfect because i know it is not.All i am saying is that if you look at the bigger picture then the facts speak for themselves as regards our recent success.

Upheaval creates chaos.

Stability has proven to be the common denominator with most successful teams over the years.

Next season will be a pivotal season for Roberto Mancini.He will have to improve in the Champions League,that is where the money is.To sustain our success we must bring in revenue.

[Risby]

Who'd be your choice mate, Garcia, Kolo, Sinclair? None of them would've bolstered the midfield and that's why Tevez dropped.

The biggest problem came at half-time when Jimmy came off. Nobody else has the work-rate or guts to do what he does, except for the commitment of Tevez.

You are right, but he didn't even make his usual defensive changes when he normally does. He could have at least brought Garcia on to push Yaya forward. Yaya was fucked and couldn't do the running and putting him higher up the pitch would have kept a few of their midfield back as they know potent he is.
Whoever he brought on, it couldn't have been much worse than what happened.

[Beefymcfc]

Let me put this in perspective, we have just played a near full strength Spurs team, away from home with 2, now 3, of our best players not being available. We've just come off the back off an exausting run of games, beating:

United 2-1 away from home

Chelsea 2-1 away from home

Wigan 1-0 at home

all in the space of time where Spurs have not played a single game. That's right, the last time Spurs played was Thu 11 Apr, a full 2 weeks rest.

I asked a few questions in the OP and I think I got my answer. I also worried about fatigue setting in and strangely enough, the last 20 minutes we fell away.

Any coincidence, surely not.

[Woodyblue]

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This

[Risby]

Let me put this in perspective, we have just played a near full strength Spurs team, away from home with 2, now 3, of our best players not being available. We've just come off the back off an exausting run of games, beating:

United 2-1 away from home

Chelsea 2-1 away from home

Wigan 1-0 at home

all in the space of time where Spurs have not played a single game. That's right, the last time Spurs played was Thu 11 Apr, a full 2 weeks rest.

I asked a few questions in the OP and I think I got my answer. I also worried about fatigue setting in and strangely enough, the last 20 minutes we fell away.

Any coincidence, surely not.

Agreed and hence the reason we were all screaming out to bring fresh players on.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Come on mate you know he did not want to risk tweaking Aguero hamstring.

I don't base my opinion on individual collective performances,that you have singled out.I see the bigger picture,this is our second best season in donkeys years,we might also add our 4th trophy under Roberto,i call that progress,what ever way you want to look at it.Basically i see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is nearly any prem manager given Mancini resources should beat the teams we did up to the semi in fa cup but I also believe they'd be pushing all the way for the title and we haven't done that this year.

That's the disappointment we should be doing better this season. Yes I know x amount of years ago we were shit I was there too but I also know we had no money then we also didn't have some of the finest players in the world turning out for us week in week out. If you are happy to be surrendering the league so easily then I think the problem is with you not us

Maybe your right and i am wrong.

I never go as far as saying everything is perfect because i know it is not.All i am saying is that if you look at the bigger picture then the facts speak for themselves as regards our recent success.

Upheaval creates chaos.

Stability has proven to be the common denominator with most successful teams over the years.

Next season will be a pivotal season for Roberto Mancini.He will have to improve in the Champions League,that is where the money is.To sustain our success we must bring in revenue.

The squad is Mancini's. He spent a ton of cash on it. If it isn't good enough, it is Bobs fault. So it's not good asking who he should have played today. it is the most expensively assembled squad in the history of English football. Milner having to go off shouldn't mean we capitulate. The common denominator for success is the wage bill, not stability, that simply isn't true. Bob is already costing us revenue with his piss poor performances in Europe, this season's efforts have cost over 20m quid and worsened our coefficient for next season.

[Beefymcfc]

Who'd be your choice mate, Garcia, Kolo, Sinclair? None of them would've bolstered the midfield and that's why Tevez dropped.

The biggest problem came at half-time when Jimmy came off. Nobody else has the work-rate or guts to do what he does, except for the commitment of Tevez.

You are right, but he didn't even make his usual defensive changes when he normally does. He could have at least brought Garcia on to push Yaya forward. Yaya was fucked and couldn't do the running and putting him higher up the pitch would have kept a few of their midfield back as they know potent he is.
Whoever he brought on, it couldn't have been much worse than what happened.

Very true but hindsight is a great thing. I don't think anybody mentioned bringing Garcia on and rightly so. The pace of Spurs they'd have ran rings around him and he wouldn't have even got his brain in gear, never mind his body.

[zabbadabbado]

Come on mate you know he did not want to risk tweaking Aguero hamstring.

I don't base my opinion on individual collective performances,that you have singled out.I see the bigger picture,this is our second best season in donkeys years,we might also add our 4th trophy under Roberto,i call that progress,what ever way you want to look at it.Basically i see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is nearly any prem manager given Mancini resources should beat the teams we did up to the semi in fa cup but I also believe they'd be pushing all the way for the title and we haven't done that this year.

That's the disappointment we should be doing better this season. Yes I know x amount of years ago we were shit I was there too but I also know we had no money then we also didn't have some of the finest players in the world turning out for us week in week out. If you are happy to be surrendering the league so easily then I think the problem is with you not us

Maybe your right and i am wrong.

I never go as far as saying everything is perfect because i know it is not.All i am saying is that if you look at the bigger picture then the facts speak for themselves as regards our recent success.

Upheaval creates chaos.

Stability has proven to be the common denominator with most successful teams over the years.

Next season will be a pivotal season for Roberto Mancini.He will have to improve in the Champions League,that is where the money is.To sustain our success we must bring in revenue.

The squad is Mancini's. He spent a ton of cash on it. If it isn't good enough, it is Bobs fault. So it's not good asking who he should have played today. it is the most expensively assembled squad in the history of English football. Milner having to go off shouldn't mean we capitulate. The common denominator for success is the wage bill, not stability, that simply isn't true. Bob is already costing us revenue with his piss poor performances in Europe, this season's efforts have cost over 20m quid and worsened our coefficient for next season.

Again it is hard to disagree with anything you say.

But your solution will be the equivalent of taking a hammer to crack an egg.

My solution is we stick with Roberto Mancini for at least another season,try and rectify what you have listed.He deserves that,surely ?.

?

[Beefymcfc]

Come on mate you know he did not want to risk tweaking Aguero hamstring.

I don't base my opinion on individual collective performances,that you have singled out.I see the bigger picture,this is our second best season in donkeys years,we might also add our 4th trophy under Roberto,i call that progress,what ever way you want to look at it.Basically i see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is nearly any prem manager given Mancini resources should beat the teams we did up to the semi in fa cup but I also believe they'd be pushing all the way for the title and we haven't done that this year.

That's the disappointment we should be doing better this season. Yes I know x amount of years ago we were shit I was there too but I also know we had no money then we also didn't have some of the finest players in the world turning out for us week in week out. If you are happy to be surrendering the league so easily then I think the problem is with you not us

Maybe your right and i am wrong.

I never go as far as saying everything is perfect because i know it is not.All i am saying is that if you look at the bigger picture then the facts speak for themselves as regards our recent success.

Upheaval creates chaos.

Stability has proven to be the common denominator with most successful teams over the years.

Next season will be a pivotal season for Roberto Mancini.He will have to improve in the Champions League,that is where the money is.To sustain our success we must bring in revenue.

The squad is Mancini's. He spent a ton of cash on it. If it isn't good enough, it is Bobs fault. So it's not good asking who he should have played today. it is the most expensively assembled squad in the history of English football. Milner having to go off shouldn't mean we capitulate. The common denominator for success is the wage bill, not stability, that simply isn't true. Bob is already costing us revenue with his piss poor performances in Europe, this season's efforts have cost over 20m quid and worsened our coefficient for next season.

I blame Marwood.

[Tim777]

Let me put this in perspective, we have just played a near full strength Spurs team, away from home with 2, now 3, of our best players not being available. We've just come off the back off an exausting run of games, beating:

United 2-1 away from home

Chelsea 2-1 away from home

Wigan 1-0 at home

all in the space of time where Spurs have not played a single game. That's right, the last time Spurs played was Thu 11 Apr, a full 2 weeks rest.

I asked a few questions in the OP and I think I got my answer. I also worried about fatigue setting in and strangely enough, the last 20 minutes we fell away.

Any coincidence, surely not.

Spot on!

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Think VK is more arsed about this Belgian team he's always banging on about. Been sub-par this season, he needs up his game.

Wouldn't mind swapping him out for Kolo for a while.