Mancini Gone: Official Now

Here is the place to talk about all things city and football!

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Nick » Tue May 14, 2013 8:28 am

john@staustell wrote:
Nick wrote:does this mean that we have to HOPE nasri, dzeko and the other underperformers will turn into world beaters? Is there no 'war-chest' for Falcao etc?


Dzeko was pretty good when he came here mate. Recently he's been absolute shite. At Arsenal Nasri was at times one of the best in Europe. He's got worse in the last year. So has Yaya, so has Aguero, so has Kolarov etc etc. So has Hart!

You have to think about that and wonder why.



Agreed but in defence on Mancio:

1) Nasri - Turned into a dogshit player that WOULDN'T SHOOT or take players on pretty much instantly. He wanted to pass to death (probably a factor of this Barca football that all the 'execs' keep stating we need to play? So I don't imagine that will change.

2) Dzeko - is a confidence player. He needs to play every game. Hes not good enough to do that here.


you forget about players like Zaba who have come on leaps and bounds, Nasti, the consistent best defence in the league that Mancio has brought. Do people forget our defence (same players) under hughes? How long will it be until we ship goals?

I agree, Mancio has slit his own throat and shouldnt slag of players so much but lets have a look at each in turn:

1) Nasri - has underperformed. Since mancios bollocking, Nasri has played his best games.

2) Joe Hart - Has IMO has a crap season based on his growing ego. Needs bringing down a peg or too and reminding that Panti is better than him in certain aspects (e.g. kicking)

3) Dzeko - Poor attitude and Poor form. Has lost his touch.

4) Kompany - Club Captain and was going the right way about achieving legend status. But playing for Belgium when just coming back from injury is a joke. He's also been off form. And im getting sick of his Ferguson/United love ins. Is he competing with Joe for the 'most liked' tag by other fans?
Nick
Denis Law's Backheel
 
Posts: 9610
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:50 pm
Location: MANCHESTER

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:29 am

mr_nool wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
I'm with you guys. The aim of the board is to make City the biggest and the best, and they will do what it takes. We have to trust them. I wasn't in favour of sacking now, but there ARE a long list of misgivings about Mancini, particularly in the player motivation stakes.

So lets get on with it and enjoy the ride.


That sums up my views as well. Let's just get on with it and get behind the board and whoever they will bring in.


And mine as well. I'm don't get the worship some have on here for the board, they might just be idiots for all we know. However moving on is about all there is to do. Managers have been sacked before. They will get sacked in the future. Perhaps our club will be able to learn to fire managers in a more classier way in teh future but meh.... some contemplaton and then it's game on as usual.

We're fickle like that, aren't we?
"I used to be 6 foot 2 with curly hair, look what it's done to me"

"In my career so far it's the most important goal. You score the goal in the last minute to win the title. You're not sure if that's ever going to happen in your career again. I wish I could tell you how I did it but I can't. I thought for all the world that Mario was going to have a go himself but he just moved it on one more and it fell at my feet and I just thought: 'Hit the target, hit it as hard as you can and hit the target.' And it went in."
User avatar
Cocacolajojo1
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Dickov's Injury Time Equaliser
 
Posts: 4526
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:42 pm
Location: Umeå
Supporter of: MCFC
My favourite player is: Ireland 08-09

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:33 am

Also, I hope this wipes the slate clean when it comes to groupings among the supporters. The divisions around Hughes remained almost the same, albeit reversed, when it came to Mancini, although he won some people over. Whoever comes next has no relation what so ever to what happened during the last 6 years. In any way.

Neither has the board. Marwood and Cook are gone, either literally or in everything but name. The Spanish penises (I'm trying to balance the genders here) are in control now. They have nothing to do with Thaksin, Cook or anything like that.

Can we just move on now, please?
"I used to be 6 foot 2 with curly hair, look what it's done to me"

"In my career so far it's the most important goal. You score the goal in the last minute to win the title. You're not sure if that's ever going to happen in your career again. I wish I could tell you how I did it but I can't. I thought for all the world that Mario was going to have a go himself but he just moved it on one more and it fell at my feet and I just thought: 'Hit the target, hit it as hard as you can and hit the target.' And it went in."
User avatar
Cocacolajojo1
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Dickov's Injury Time Equaliser
 
Posts: 4526
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:42 pm
Location: Umeå
Supporter of: MCFC
My favourite player is: Ireland 08-09

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Chinners » Tue May 14, 2013 8:37 am

Duckman wrote:phase 2 complete.

bring on phase 3.


Good work. Thats a very good way of looking at it. B+
Image
User avatar
Chinners
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Kaptain Kompany's Komposure
 
Posts: 14256
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:52 pm
Location: Hampton Court Palace
Supporter of: B*ll*x
My favourite player is: Kun Tueart

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue May 14, 2013 8:39 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:Also, I hope this wipes the slate clean when it comes to groupings among the supporters. The divisions around Hughes remained almost the same, albeit reversed, when it came to Mancini, although he won some people over. Whoever comes next has no relation what so ever to what happened during the last 6 years. In any way.

Neither has the board. Marwood and Cook are gone, either literally or in everything but name. The Spanish penises (I'm trying to balance the genders here) are in control now. They have nothing to do with Thaksin, Cook or anything like that.

Can we just move on now, please?


fuck off
ARMCHAIR FAN
Nigels Tackle
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Allison's Big Fat Cigar
 
Posts: 18644
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:57 pm
Location: here, there, every fucking where
Supporter of: man love
My favourite player is: riyad meh!rez

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby london blue 2 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:41 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Also, I hope this wipes the slate clean when it comes to groupings among the supporters. The divisions around Hughes remained almost the same, albeit reversed, when it came to Mancini, although he won some people over. Whoever comes next has no relation what so ever to what happened during the last 6 years. In any way.

Neither has the board. Marwood and Cook are gone, either literally or in everything but name. The Spanish penises (I'm trying to balance the genders here) are in control now. They have nothing to do with Thaksin, Cook or anything like that.

Can we just move on now, please?


fuck off

The groups have evolved to the Nasti and Lescott camps...
london blue 2
Paul Power's Tash
 
Posts: 10339
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:32 am
Location: london
Supporter of: MCFC

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue May 14, 2013 8:49 am

Guardian made a good point saying how Mancini overused the RVP excuse. That would have carried more weight had he not spent 38 million on Aguero, 27 million on Dzeko, 24 million on Balotelli and he already had Tevez.
Bridge'srightfoot
Rosler's Grandad Bombed The Swamp
 
Posts: 3996
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:49 pm
Supporter of: City

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Tue May 14, 2013 8:54 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Guardian made a good point saying how Mancini overused the RVP excuse. That would have carried more weight had he not spent 38 million on Aguero, 27 million on Dzeko, 24 million on Balotelli and he already had Tevez.


Spot on. We weren't short of a striker
Piccsnumberoneblue
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Pablo Zabaleta's Manc Accent
 
Posts: 13353
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:09 pm
Location: Weirdosville.
Supporter of: Us

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:55 am

london blue 2 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Also, I hope this wipes the slate clean when it comes to groupings among the supporters. The divisions around Hughes remained almost the same, albeit reversed, when it came to Mancini, although he won some people over. Whoever comes next has no relation what so ever to what happened during the last 6 years. In any way.

Neither has the board. Marwood and Cook are gone, either literally or in everything but name. The Spanish penises (I'm trying to balance the genders here) are in control now. They have nothing to do with Thaksin, Cook or anything like that.

Can we just move on now, please?


fuck off

The groups have evolved to the Nasti and Lescott camps...


:) for both of you.
"I used to be 6 foot 2 with curly hair, look what it's done to me"

"In my career so far it's the most important goal. You score the goal in the last minute to win the title. You're not sure if that's ever going to happen in your career again. I wish I could tell you how I did it but I can't. I thought for all the world that Mario was going to have a go himself but he just moved it on one more and it fell at my feet and I just thought: 'Hit the target, hit it as hard as you can and hit the target.' And it went in."
User avatar
Cocacolajojo1
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Dickov's Injury Time Equaliser
 
Posts: 4526
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:42 pm
Location: Umeå
Supporter of: MCFC
My favourite player is: Ireland 08-09

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby gillie » Tue May 14, 2013 8:57 am

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Guardian made a good point saying how Mancini overused the RVP excuse. That would have carried more weight had he not spent 38 million on Aguero, 27 million on Dzeko, 24 million on Balotelli and he already had Tevez.


Spot on. We weren't short of a striker

Just a manager short on ideas at the end i would say.
User avatar
gillie
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Pablo Zabaleta's Manc Accent
 
Posts: 13894
Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:55 pm
Location: our house
Supporter of: Manchester City
My favourite player is: Colin Bell

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue May 14, 2013 9:04 am

gillie wrote:
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Guardian made a good point saying how Mancini overused the RVP excuse. That would have carried more weight had he not spent 38 million on Aguero, 27 million on Dzeko, 24 million on Balotelli and he already had Tevez.


Spot on. We weren't short of a striker

Just a manager short on ideas at the end i would say.

Agreed. We had 2 world class strikers in the Argies. And two very decent back ups.
Aguero in my opinion at his best is as good as RVP and so to is Tevez.
Who do the Rags have? RVP ad Rooney , and then for back up they had Welbeck and Hernandez. I'd argue we had a stronger set at the start of the season.
Mancini wasn't able to get the best out of them. It really wasn't that we were lacking a striker.
Bridge'srightfoot
Rosler's Grandad Bombed The Swamp
 
Posts: 3996
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:49 pm
Supporter of: City

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Duckman » Tue May 14, 2013 9:18 am

Chinners wrote:
Duckman wrote:phase 2 complete.

bring on phase 3.


Good work. Thats a very good way of looking at it. B+


i thought Bollox are for another thread ;)

looking back, Roberto was perfect for phase 2, even with his euro shortcomings the Club gave him a shot, while giving him blank cheque for players. Roberto did deliver silverware but failed in Europe, end of. Plus, whining all the time, almost wengeresque.

IMO, the club didnt planned the sacking this way, Roberto made it the way it is.

all in all, I hope we get Manuel next monday, plus Isco, sell Kolarov, Javi, Lesco, Kolo, Sinclair and Maybe Džeko. Then off to a good preseason.

life is good. Cmon CITY ))
private dick/family man
User avatar
Duckman
De Jong's Tackle
 
Posts: 1183
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:02 am
Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
Supporter of: Manchester City
My favourite player is: Silva, Kompany, Yaya

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby sheblue » Tue May 14, 2013 9:20 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Guardian made a good point saying how Mancini overused the RVP excuse. That would have carried more weight had he not spent 38 million on Aguero, 27 million on Dzeko, 24 million on Balotelli and he already had Tevez.



Please do not remind me that we spent 27m on dzeko.
sheblue
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Bert Trautmann's Neck
 
Posts: 12552
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:28 pm
Supporter of: city
My favourite player is: silva

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Dubciteh » Tue May 14, 2013 9:57 am

Im dissapointed, as much as how we went about it than anything else. We can add "sacking a manager a year to the day after winning the league" to the list of calamities over the years.

Also i fear Pelligrini is the next Juande Ramos, he too was also highly rated in spain and was a disaster here. I

For me the only thing that could make this ok is if Mourinho gets the job. my second choice would be rafa based on a lack of alternatives and me not trusting Pellegrini with phase 3.
derby day the scores were level,
then the goat was fed by neville,
silly boy should know for sure,
feed the goat and he will score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
Dubciteh
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Denis Tueart's Overhead
 
Posts: 8628
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:49 am
Location: Dublin
Supporter of: CTID
My favourite player is: Merlin

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby PeterParker » Tue May 14, 2013 9:59 am

Dunno what to say about this.

My mind agrees with the decision, it is almost normal because sadly enough, this was it for us. Bobby couldn't take us to the next level as a manager and somehow, there were moments when he hold us back, with clueless tactics, like the ones he had the past years.

We did become a world class team under his spell, but could we been more than we are now? No, we can't.

On the other hand, my heart will miss the weirdass that Bobby was. With all his "ezz, eez normal" speech, "fuck you" rant at QPR and other things he had. Bobby was the only manager, even better than Maureen, that tactically outclassed old fuck face drinking retiring cunt.

MANCINI IS THE REASON THE FUCK RETIRED.

On the other hand, Bobby did this to himself and i can give you four reasons:

1) He negociated with Russia, why? Only he knows.
2) He dediced to change a winning system, 4-2-3-1 and start a 3-5-2 that was horrible, that was the reason the season was a mess.
3) His relashionship with Mario, his decisions to always forgive him.
4) His relashionship with Dzeko. We like it or not, Big Ed scored crucial goals when we needed and then, the next game, Bobby forgot him on the bench.

These are just a thew. In all, there are a lot more reasons, but those will stay hidden. From now on, things will be different.

Regarding our new manager: Klopp is my desire. But if we miss Pellegrini, i am almost certain that the Spanish Waiter or Martinez will be our next boy in charge.
Image
User avatar
PeterParker
Pellegrini's Hoodie
 
Posts: 22994
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:36 pm
Location: Bucharest
Supporter of: The Blue Moon blues
My favourite player is: King Mike

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue May 14, 2013 10:06 am

Dubciteh wrote:Im dissapointed, as much as how we went about it than anything else. We can add "sacking a manager a year to the day after winning the league" to the list of calamities over the years.

Also i fear Pelligrini is the next Juande Ramos, he too was also highly rated in spain and was a disaster here. I

For me the only thing that could make this ok is if Mourinho gets the job. my second choice would be rafa based on a lack of alternatives and me not trusting Pellegrini with phase 3.



1.Ancelloti
2.Mourinho
3.Klopp
He was never me,me,me but always you,you,you
User avatar
lets all have a disco
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Pellegrini's Hoodie
 
Posts: 22479
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:20 pm
Location: Blue Army
Supporter of: Manchester City FC
My favourite player is: STILL MICAH RICHARDS

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby s1ty m » Tue May 14, 2013 10:08 am

PeterParker wrote:Dunno what to say about this.

My mind agrees with the decision, it is almost normal because sadly enough, this was it for us. Bobby couldn't take us to the next level as a manager and somehow, there were moments when he hold us back, with clueless tactics, like the ones he had the past years.

We did become a world class team under his spell, but could we been more than we are now? No, we can't.

On the other hand, my heart will miss the weirdass that Bobby was. With all his "ezz, eez normal" speech, "fuck you" rant at QPR and other things he had. Bobby was the only manager, even better than Maureen, that tactically outclassed old fuck face drinking retiring cunt.

MANCINI IS THE REASON THE FUCK RETIRED.

On the other hand, Bobby did this to himself and i can give you four reasons:

1) He negociated with Russia, why? Only he knows.
2) He dediced to change a winning system, 4-2-3-1 and start a 3-5-2 that was horrible, that was the reason the season was a mess.
3) His relashionship with Mario, his decisions to always forgive him.
4) His relashionship with Dzeko. We like it or not, Big Ed scored crucial goals when we needed and then, the next game, Bobby forgot him on the bench.

These are just a thew. In all, there are a lot more reasons, but those will stay hidden. From now on, things will be different.

Regarding our new manager: Klopp is my desire. But if we miss Pellegrini, i am almost certain that the Spanish Waiter or Martinez will be our next boy in charge.


I think his autocratic style was his principal undoing. OK, managers need to be strong and be themsleves, but he was too distant, too autocratic, I think. At least I get that impression. The players, however well paid and talented, need more than that. Was he arrogant? Maybe.

However, Pellegrini does not fill me with anything other than a sense of WTF?

What a mess.
After the ball was centred, after the whistle blew...
User avatar
s1ty m
David Silva's Silky Skills
 
Posts: 6301
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:44 pm
Location: uk

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Mase » Tue May 14, 2013 10:08 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
1.Ancelloti
2.Mourinho


Serious??!
Mase
Anna Connell's Vision
 
Posts: 44266
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:08 pm
Location: The North Pole.
Supporter of: Warnock's Ref Rants
My favourite player is: Danny Tiatto

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby Dubciteh » Tue May 14, 2013 10:15 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:Im dissapointed, as much as how we went about it than anything else. We can add "sacking a manager a year to the day after winning the league" to the list of calamities over the years.

Also i fear Pelligrini is the next Juande Ramos, he too was also highly rated in spain and was a disaster here. I

For me the only thing that could make this ok is if Mourinho gets the job. my second choice would be rafa based on a lack of alternatives and me not trusting Pellegrini with phase 3.



1.Ancelloti
2.Mourinho
3.Klopp


i had forgotten about Ancelotti,he is my second choice. I dont think we would get klopp thats why i hadnt considered him. If this was always going to happen we should of moved for Pep early in the year.
derby day the scores were level,
then the goat was fed by neville,
silly boy should know for sure,
feed the goat and he will score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
Dubciteh
Donated to the site
Donated to the site
Denis Tueart's Overhead
 
Posts: 8628
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:49 am
Location: Dublin
Supporter of: CTID
My favourite player is: Merlin

Re: Mancini Gone: Official Now

Postby PeterParker » Tue May 14, 2013 10:17 am

s1ty m wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Dunno what to say about this.

My mind agrees with the decision, it is almost normal because sadly enough, this was it for us. Bobby couldn't take us to the next level as a manager and somehow, there were moments when he hold us back, with clueless tactics, like the ones he had the past years.

We did become a world class team under his spell, but could we been more than we are now? No, we can't.

On the other hand, my heart will miss the weirdass that Bobby was. With all his "ezz, eez normal" speech, "fuck you" rant at QPR and other things he had. Bobby was the only manager, even better than Maureen, that tactically outclassed old fuck face drinking retiring cunt.

MANCINI IS THE REASON THE FUCK RETIRED.

On the other hand, Bobby did this to himself and i can give you four reasons:

1) He negociated with Russia, why? Only he knows.
2) He dediced to change a winning system, 4-2-3-1 and start a 3-5-2 that was horrible, that was the reason the season was a mess.
3) His relashionship with Mario, his decisions to always forgive him.
4) His relashionship with Dzeko. We like it or not, Big Ed scored crucial goals when we needed and then, the next game, Bobby forgot him on the bench.

These are just a thew. In all, there are a lot more reasons, but those will stay hidden. From now on, things will be different.

Regarding our new manager: Klopp is my desire. But if we miss Pellegrini, i am almost certain that the Spanish Waiter or Martinez will be our next boy in charge.


I think his autocratic style was his principal undoing. OK, managers need to be strong and be themsleves, but he was too distant, too autocratic, I think. At least I get that impression. The players, however well paid and talented, need more than that. Was he arrogant? Maybe.

However, Pellegrini does not fill me with anything other than a sense of WTF?

What a mess.


He didn't knew how to bring players around him, that is my opinion. Never seen a player celebrating with him after scoring one. Remeber when they sacked Hughes?

Given, Adebayor, Bellers and another chap, went to talk to the board to keep him here. Bobby came and got rid of those three players asap.

If i were a City players, i scored goals when we needed, wasen't the best around, but worked every day, never miss a training and see that Mario did the opposite and still played more than me, i wouldn't give a shit after a while and play just for the sake of it.
Bobby did some mistakes that cost him even at Inter, imho.

Pellegrini, i think if he will be a gamble. He is a man manager and did some real good stuff. At Real, they didn't give him time and remember, he faced Barcelona when they where in their best time, not this shitty team like they are now. My worries will be if he will change the system.
Image
User avatar
PeterParker
Pellegrini's Hoodie
 
Posts: 22994
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:36 pm
Location: Bucharest
Supporter of: The Blue Moon blues
My favourite player is: King Mike

PreviousNext

Return to The Maine Football forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], Mase and 147 guests