Summer Transfer rumours

[bigblue]

The first reason is why Pep will bring in a number 1 keeper .

Accept it and prepare to change your duvet.

ok mate

[PrezIke]

Top class competition in
all positions can only be a good thing

Generally I agree, but when it comes to keeper it's different because being the backup usually means far less games, so more likely to unsettle someone who believes they should start.

Again, one possibility could be giving the cup keeper CL to offer more games, and prestige.

[Hazy2]

I can see a tattoo rethink coming.

[nottsblue]

Regarding transfer rumours. That's all they are, rumours. However there are a couple of points which are pertinent.

We will have been working on this summers business since last summer. The announcement of Pep as the next manager will help or possibly in some cases helped obtain the signatures of our targets. Make no mistake, he is a top draw for players. A real game changer that we have not had before. Already we have seen Neymar state he would like to work for him.

We will have identified players in numerous positions based on a number of factors. Availability, the existing player we have in that role, the formation the new manager will prefer to take and the personnel required for that, the age and contract length of given players already here, what our competitors require and the likelihood of them getting their targets, the nationality of outgoing and incoming targets in order to meet squad requirements. In short, gone are the days of meeting players at service stations or hotels and conducting business based solely on a managers whim.

I dare say we have a list of twenty or so names that gradually get whittled down due to various reasons. In respect of the rumours about Ter Stegen, no doubt we have a couple of goalkeeper names on our list. It would be remiss not to have. Joe could suffer a season ending or even worse, a career ending injury at any time. Ter Stegen is a player who may or not be on our watch, but if he isn't, someone else will be. Lloris perhaps. Or DeGea. Or Neuer. Regardless of whether a goalkeeper is a priority for us, and I don't think it is myself, we are likely to be working on a number of positions at the same time. It may be a deal can be concluded for a particular position first even though another area may need looking at first. Centre half is an obvious one, but maybe out targets aren't as easy to get thus that area of improvement isn't completed first. If all we did was look at one area and not another until the first was completed we would run the risk of not doing any business. Or worse still, the wrong business. See Woodwards approach at the swamp for evidence of this.

We will be linked with lots of players from now until September. Most will be bullshit, some will be true but for whatever reason the deal didn't happen and four or five will be concluded. I'm hoping for one or two of the ones to be concluded to be real shocks in terms of WOW, did not see that coming and to ignite the club for the upcoming season

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Top class competition in
all positions can only be a good thing

Generally I agree, but when it comes to keeper it's different because being the backup usually means far less games, so more likely to unsettle someone who believes they should start.

Again, one possibility could be giving the cup keeper CL to offer more games, and prestige.

Isn't that what Barca have been doing? Playing Bravo in league games with Ter Stegen getting cup games, reportedly that's the reason Ter Stegen wants out as he wants more.

[I Just Blue Myself]

Top class competition in
all positions can only be a good thing

Generally I agree, but when it comes to keeper it's different because being the backup usually means far less games, so more likely to unsettle someone who believes they should start.

Again, one possibility could be giving the cup keeper CL to offer more games, and prestige.

Isn't that what Barca have been doing? Playing Bravo in league games with Ter Stegen getting cup games, reportedly that's the reason Ter Stegen wants out as he wants more.

Exactly, I don't see the point for MATS to swap Barca's bench for ours (half of the time) and I don't see the point for Pep to get him for his distribution and sweeper role, only to then keep playing Hart, who is dogshit at it.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/13452/opta/ ... gen-at-man

Also, quite incredibly, out of 98 starting keepers in the top 5 leagues, Hart ranks 97th (!!!) for passes per game. In a team with our possession and passing statistics, however struggling this season, that is nothing short of criminal.

[bigblue]

Exactly, I don't see the point for MATS to swap Barca's bench for ours (half of the time) and I don't see the point for Pep to get him for his distribution and sweeper role, only to then keep playing Hart, who is dogshit at it.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/13452/opta/ ... gen-at-man

Also, quite incredibly, out of 98 starting keepers in the top 5 leagues, Hart ranks 97th (!!!) for passes per game. In a team with our possession and passing statistics, however struggling this season, that is nothing short of criminal.

A counter point though - maybe thats because teams usually sit deep and hit us on the break. Most of our passing is across the backline and CMs, with the opposing players putting no pressure on them - so no reason to play it back to the keeper. And when he does get the ball, maybe he's under instructions to get the ball out. Or maybe he doesn't trust passing it short to Demi (the derby can show why), Mangaler etc.. so he just hoofs it

The stats cited in the article don't mean much when compared across different teams. The top spots for each stat include the starting and backup keeper for a few select teams, suggesting that the team's play style has a lot to do with how many passes (and the completion rate) for keepers.

[Hazy2]

Exactly, I don't see the point for MATS to swap Barca's bench for ours (half of the time) and I don't see the point for Pep to get him for his distribution and sweeper role, only to then keep playing Hart, who is dogshit at it.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/13452/opta/ ... gen-at-man

Also, quite incredibly, out of 98 starting keepers in the top 5 leagues, Hart ranks 97th (!!!) for passes per game. In a team with our possession and passing statistics, however struggling this season, that is nothing short of criminal.

A counter point though - maybe thats because teams usually sit deep and hit us on the break. Most of our passing is across the backline and CMs, with the opposing players putting no pressure on them - so no reason to play it back to the keeper. And when he does get the ball, maybe he's under instructions to get the ball out. Or maybe he doesn't trust passing it short to Demi (the derby can show why), Mangaler etc.. so he just hoofs it

The stats cited in the article don't mean much when compared across different teams. The top spots for each stat include the starting and backup keeper for a few select teams, suggesting that the team's play style has a lot to do with how many passes (and the completion rate) for keepers.

Sorry mate I think is the words your looking for.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Exactly, I don't see the point for MATS to swap Barca's bench for ours (half of the time) and I don't see the point for Pep to get him for his distribution and sweeper role, only to then keep playing Hart, who is dogshit at it.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/13452/opta/ ... gen-at-man

Also, quite incredibly, out of 98 starting keepers in the top 5 leagues, Hart ranks 97th (!!!) for passes per game. In a team with our possession and passing statistics, however struggling this season, that is nothing short of criminal.

A counter point though - maybe thats because teams usually sit deep and hit us on the break. Most of our passing is across the backline and CMs, with the opposing players putting no pressure on them - so no reason to play it back to the keeper. And when he does get the ball, maybe he's under instructions to get the ball out. Or maybe he doesn't trust passing it short to Demi (the derby can show why), Mangaler etc.. so he just hoofs it

The stats cited in the article don't mean much when compared across different teams. The top spots for each stat include the starting and backup keeper for a few select teams, suggesting that the team's play style has a lot to do with how many passes (and the completion rate) for keepers.

Now, thats what you call talking shit!

[PrezIke]

Top class competition in
all positions can only be a good thing

Generally I agree, but when it comes to keeper it's different because being the backup usually means far less games, so more likely to unsettle someone who believes they should start.

Again, one possibility could be giving the cup keeper CL to offer more games, and prestige.

Isn't that what Barca have been doing? Playing Bravo in league games with Ter Stegen getting cup games, reportedly that's the reason Ter Stegen wants out as he wants more.

Yes, but we have 2 cups rather than 1 in Spain.

[Nigels Tackle]

looks like we'll only be getting players managed by pep's brother then....
did someone say spafia??

[I Just Blue Myself]

Exactly, I don't see the point for MATS to swap Barca's bench for ours (half of the time) and I don't see the point for Pep to get him for his distribution and sweeper role, only to then keep playing Hart, who is dogshit at it.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/13452/opta/ ... gen-at-man

Also, quite incredibly, out of 98 starting keepers in the top 5 leagues, Hart ranks 97th (!!!) for passes per game. In a team with our possession and passing statistics, however struggling this season, that is nothing short of criminal.

A counter point though - maybe thats because teams usually sit deep and hit us on the break. Most of our passing is across the backline and CMs, with the opposing players putting no pressure on them - so no reason to play it back to the keeper. And when he does get the ball, maybe he's under instructions to get the ball out. Or maybe he doesn't trust passing it short to Demi (the derby can show why), Mangaler etc.. so he just hoofs it

The stats cited in the article don't mean much when compared across different teams. The top spots for each stat include the starting and backup keeper for a few select teams, suggesting that the team's play style has a lot to do with how many passes (and the completion rate) for keepers.

Whatever floats your boat. To me, these stats cry out that (1) our players/manager don't trust Hart with the ball at his feet and bypass him (2) and when the ball is at his feet, you're slightly better off than rolling the dice.

Hart has had some amazing performances for us this season and also in the past. In my opinion, he is great on the line and one of the best in 1on1 situations. His command of the box (aerial) could be better and his distribution is diabolical. As long as you are not deluded, these are pretty much facts.

I would love there to be a way and system where we keep Hart and play to his strengths and circumvent his weaknesses to great success. But I try to be realistic and I can't see it happening if events unfold as rumoured here.

[DoomMerchant]

Suarez linked today.

Managed of course by Peps bro.

Hope it's absolute bollox for a couple reasons that are probably obvious.

Cheers

[Cocacolajojo]

Hart has had some amazing performances for us this season and also in the past. In my opinion, he is great on the line and one of the best in 1on1 situations. His command of the box (aerial) could be better and his distribution is diabolical. As long as you are not deluded, these are pretty much facts.

If you think his distribution is diabolical then you clearly have not watched a lot of footy in your life. Isaksson springs to mind as a person with a human body and bricks for feet.

[carolina-blue]

Suarez linked today.

Managed of course by Peps bro.

Hope it's absolute bollox for a couple reasons that are probably obvious.

Cheers

Hate him But Scouse heads would Fookin explode Lah

[nottsblue]

Suarez?

I'd have him in a heartbeat. Fantastic player who would fit into any side seamlessly. In a Pep side he would be outstanding.

A cunt? Yes. But I wouldn't care

[Slim]

I wouldn't want him in the same way I didn't want Bellamy.

And then he signed, and then he played, and my memory got fuzzy on why I didn't want him at City.

[carolina-blue]

Suarez?

I'd have him in a heartbeat. Fantastic player who would fit into any side seamlessly. In a Pep side he would be outstanding.

A cunt? Yes. But I wouldn't care

He would take a big bite out of our transfer budget :)

All the Scousers I know couldn't bring them selves to call him what he is a cunt . But as you say good player . I would take him just to fuck off the bin dippers
S. A S. Suarez Aguero Sterling That would really piss Em off Lol

[nottsblue]

Suarez?

I'd have him in a heartbeat. Fantastic player who would fit into any side seamlessly. In a Pep side he would be outstanding.

A cunt? Yes. But I wouldn't care

He would take a big bite out of our transfer budget :)

All the Scousers I know couldn't bring them selves to call him what he is a cunt . But as you say good player . I would take him just to fuck off the bin dippers
S. A S. Suarez Aguero Sterling That would really piss Em off Lol

Any player we buy from next season has an inflated price due to the PL TV deal.

However, really unlikely to happen. I actually think Barca would be more likely to offload Messi if they were going to sell one of Messi, Neymar, Suarez. Not beyond possibility as just those three alone probably cost in excess of £1.3m a week in wages. Messi would command the biggest transfer fee and he is the biggest earner. Plus the other two are good enough to still dominate the Spanish league.

We can but dream

[Wooders]

He'd start biting again the moment he signs