***candlepool vs City official match thread***

[Dimples]

I’ve written tons about Cancelo over the last couple of seasons. Flashes of brilliance, the occasional goal and clearly an extremely talented player and going forward can be exceptional at times. Defender he is not, he’s made dozens of mistakes, usually when the pressure is on, today and RM last season being the obvious examples. That mistake today is unforgivable , head in the clouds play…just did the wrong thing, in the wrong game against the wrong player. I missed a fair bit of the second half with streaming problems. The portion of the game I did see, I thought we were playing pretty well. The disallowed goal is just unfathomable, as Pep said in the post match interview, referring to the decision…..”this is Anfield” refs regularly bottle it due to the intensity of it all and it’s always at our cost not theirs. We deserved at least a draw. The Alvarez sub at 86 mins in just unexplainable, 75 mins or even 80 would be more . Foden did not take on Milner once in 96 mins, Grealish should have come on to skin him, hey ho, we lost a football game…..cue a 15 game winning streak.

Peps none use of subs is perplexing, Grealish should have come on and Alvarez this from a man who goes on about five subs, this defeat is awful and down to the manager not making use of the facilities available to him, the first rule of management I was taught many years ago.

I disagree.
imo people are underestimating the influence of VAR and the refs. Our record against them would be a lot better if we were refed the way they are.
It makes every debate about this game pointless. Just an exercise in futility.
The City goal that was disallowed would have stood if Liverpool had scored it. At 0-1 it is a different game. Completely different.
There is history here. Last season Milner did not get a Red. Sterling scored in the return game and had a 'tight' offside decision go against him. That is only the big decisions, Thiago could easily have been given a Red yesterday but he got yellow.
The CL games, and on and on and on ..........
Pep and Bern both called it out after the game.

Liverpool are unbeaten at Anfield in front of a crowd for over 5 years. Does anyone really think it is because they are that good at football? Absolutely not.
City would have went on to win yesterday if that legit goal had stood, +90% probability imo. It is to easy to blame Pep and the player's.

Same with MU. Stonewall Newcastle penalty waved away.......

[Two's Kompany]

I don't trust the TV companies. I've said it before.
Sky/BT NEED united and liverpool to be successful because of the viewing figures.
There's not a single person that will convince me they don't have an influence on things.
Not saying the titles, because the drama is allowed to be played out, but the fact they have to be there or thereabouts.

[Mase]

I thought bernardo was abs fantastic and the only one who put it up to them. Even when it kicked off, it was him against salah and then vvd, where were his team mates?!

Agreed

Ederson usually comes flying over on those occasions, but not today.

Zincheko would have had his back

Ederson was still wiping the kissing off his cheek from Allison and Firmino from the tunnel.

[PeterParker]

What drives me crazy is that I cannot understand how the fuck a team with so much quality cannot be ruthless versus teams like this.

We murdered the rags, 6-1, it ended 6-3. Yesterday we couldn't catch these fuckers in a better moment and our three leaders were shitting their pants (Gundo, Kevin and Dias).
It's the same fucking things you seen on Klanfield and somehow you still get scared. What the fuck is up with that?

Now they have again that fucking unbearable moan of how great they are and how the spirit of klanfield helped and how good old bad city fans made a mockery of a tragedy.

Does my fucking head it.

We either lack the balls, or we need a psychologist.

[london blue 2]

What drives me crazy is that I cannot understand how the fuck a team with so much quality cannot be ruthless versus teams like this.

We murdered the rags, 6-1, it ended 6-3. Yesterday we couldn't catch these fuckers in a better moment and our three leaders were shitting their pants (Gundo, Kevin and Dias).
It's the same fucking things you seen on Klanfield and somehow you still get scared. What the fuck is up with that?

Now they have again that fucking unbearable moan of how great they are and how the spirit of klanfield helped and how good old bad city fans made a mockery of a tragedy.

Does my fucking head it.

We either lack the balls, or we need a psychologist.

It’s why we can’t win UCL. We tend to shit ourselves on the biggest games time and time again.

[Mase]

What drives me crazy is that I cannot understand how the fuck a team with so much quality cannot be ruthless versus teams like this.

We murdered the rags, 6-1, it ended 6-3. Yesterday we couldn't catch these fuckers in a better moment and our three leaders were shitting their pants (Gundo, Kevin and Dias).
It's the same fucking things you seen on Klanfield and somehow you still get scared. What the fuck is up with that?

Now they have again that fucking unbearable moan of how great they are and how the spirit of klanfield helped and how good old bad city fans made a mockery of a tragedy.

Does my fucking head it.

We either lack the balls, or we need a psychologist.

Tactics and team selection? The players must wonder what the fuck is going on.

Grealish for example, two MOTM performances and three quality games in a row and he’s “rested”. Why? He’s 26 ffs he obviously needs to play himself into form and he did do. Then he’s benched and his good form stops.

Terrible man management.

[hayling22]

There are two Prem teams that we seem to have a mental block with...Dippers and Spuds.. Everyone else I feel we will beat, including Arsenal, Chelsea etc, but these two seem to have some sort of mental hex on us.

It's not like either team are invincible, both are good, but realistically beatable, and yet I never feel we can be confident when we come up against them.
It must be a psychic chemistry, that even hits us before a ball is kicked. Yes we have beaten both in recent times, but these two teams we make hard weather with.
Our saving grace is that even when we lose to them both, we demolish enough teams to give us the title, whilst Dippers and Spuds will drop points all over the place.

I was kind of relieved when Madrid beat us last year, as I just knew what a final against Liverpool, would entail. That is not me being negative or pessimistic, but to know that the ref, var, and the world would see we couldn't win the final, would have been too much. As it is RM did us a favour anyway.

Any great team, will get beaten but to have these bogie teams is making it difficult. Anyway, as I said normal service will be resumed and we will be back to winning ways...and a likely title

[Outcast]

There are two Prem teams that we seem to have a mental block with...Dippers and Spuds.. Everyone else I feel we will beat, including Arsenal, Chelsea etc, but these two seem to have some sort of mental hex on us.

It's not like either team are invincible, both are good, but realistically beatable, and yet I never feel we can be confident when we come up against them.
It must be a psychic chemistry, that even hits us before a ball is kicked. Yes we have beaten both in recent times, but these two teams we make hard weather with.
Our saving grace is that even when we lose to them both, we demolish enough teams to give us the title, whilst Dippers and Spuds will drop points all over the place.

I was kind of relieved when Madrid beat us last year, as I just knew what a final against Liverpool, would entail. That is not me being negative or pessimistic, but to know that the ref, var, and the world would see we couldn't win the final, would have been too much. As it is RM did us a favour anyway.

Any great team, will get beaten but to have these bogie teams is making it difficult. Anyway, as I said normal service will be resumed and we will be back to winning ways...and a likely title

There are two Prem teams that we seem to have a mental block with...Dippers and Spuds.. Everyone else I feel we will beat, including Arsenal, Chelsea etc, but these two seem to have some sort of mental hex on us.

It's not like either team are invincible, both are good, but realistically beatable, and yet I never feel we can be confident when we come up against them.
It must be a psychic chemistry, that even hits us before a ball is kicked. Yes we have beaten both in recent times, but these two teams we make hard weather with.
Our saving grace is that even when we lose to them both, we demolish enough teams to give us the title, whilst Dippers and Spuds will drop points all over the place.

I was kind of relieved when Madrid beat us last year, as I just knew what a final against Liverpool, would entail. That is not me being negative or pessimistic, but to know that the ref, var, and the world would see we couldn't win the final, would have been too much. As it is RM did us a favour anyway.

Any great team, will get beaten but to have these bogie teams is making it difficult. Anyway, as I said normal service will be resumed and we will be back to winning ways...and a likely title

It's the way we play, it plays into their hands and Pep is too stubborn to change it. Like you said it works with most teams but somewhat plays into these two . As much as I want to beat them I suppose why change a formula that wins you titles. However I have to question some of his decisions, team selectin and substitutions when it comes to these two and latter stages of UCL.

[blues2win]

https://twitter.com/rahul_madh/status/1 ... mBo2Yc0_uA

Laporte was really missed yesterday. Switch from left to right just didn’t happen.

[Mase]

Video of Kev throwing his arms up and turning his back on play because he didn’t get passed to yesterday. Not captain material and he should be nowhere near that armband.

[Indianablue]

Thought we deserved a draw on the balance of play, they upped the ante after our goal was disallowed, it was a fairly soft pull on the shirt and compared to a few of their fouls it was nothing. They put it about a bit last night, Milner and Robertson in particular but were rarely punished. Bernado what a terrier for this club. Id put money on him against that queen Van Dyck

[sheblue]

What conclusions can we draw from yesterday.
Some key players just did not perform.
VAR cheating us, again.
Pep had a really bad day with selection, set up and failing to make changes when needed. We might have gotten a positive result if he got it right.

Pep is a 97% manager, get is right 97% of the time, unfortunately the 3% where he fucks up tends to be some important games. Still thankfully the league is not a knock out completion, we will bounce back and we will be well in the hunt come April.
The latter stages of the CL is another matter.

[stupot]

He didn't have a bad day with selection. Everyone seemed pretty happy with the starting line up if you go to the beginning of the thread.
The bad day was with the substitutions. Grealish for Gundo should have happened if not half time then certainly at the hour mark. Kev, Bernardo and Rodders in the middle, Jack left, Phil right.
Got to say i thought Taylor reffed it well yesterday, VAR was the problem. How was the Foden goal a clear and obvious mistake.

[Blue Jam]

Agree - always subs too late.
Someone needs the roe bang the one to remind him due9ng the game - stop shouting and make a change. Now.

[Outcast]

He didn't have a bad day with selection. Everyone seemed pretty happy with the starting line up if you go to the beginning of the thread.
The bad day was with the substitutions. Grealish for Gundo should have happened if not half time then certainly at the hour mark. Kev, Bernardo and Rodders in the middle, Jack left, Phil right.
Got to say i thought Taylor reffed it well yesterday, VAR was the problem. How was the Foden goal a clear and obvious mistake.

Should have started with Alvarez on right and Foden on left or Foden right and Grealish on left. Alvarez would have pressed them relentlessly. He caused them trouble in the charity shield when he came on. Gundo was wrong choice, Pep trying to be too clever when should just kept it simple. I don't blame him entirely, the players didn't turn up, shat themselves yet again. Who knows, had laporte and walker started might gave us better balance. Collectively we fell short. Possession football doesn't work against this lot at klanfield, Pep should know better, he's just too stubborn to vary from his tried and trusted methods now and again.

[Outcast]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sport ... efeat.html

Will the filthy cunts come out and condemn it?

[City64]

Bin dipping murderers away
Spurs away
Always predictably the same .

We now have a lovely run of mostly home fixtures until the World Cup break . We could easily be top of the league by then , time to re focus .


Still massively fucked off though !!!

[sheblue]

He didn't have a bad day with selection. Everyone seemed pretty happy with the starting line up if you go to the beginning of the thread.
The bad day was with the substitutions. Grealish for Gundo should have happened if not half time then certainly at the hour mark. Kev, Bernardo and Rodders in the middle, Jack left, Phil right.
Got to say i thought Taylor reffed it well yesterday, VAR was the problem. How was the Foden goal a clear and obvious mistake.

Should have started with Alvarez on right and Foden on left or Foden right and Grealish on left. Alvarez would have pressed them relentlessly. He caused them trouble in the charity shield when he came on. Gundo was wrong choice, Pep trying to be too clever when should just kept it simple. I don't blame him entirely, the players didn't turn up, shat themselves yet again. Who knows, had laporte and walker started might gave us better balance. Collectively we fell short. Possession football doesn't work against this lot at klanfield, Pep should know better, he's just too stubborn to vary from his tried and trusted methods now and again.

Correct.

[PeterParker]

There are some odd things about Pep, I can agree.
For example, it seems like Alvarez is getting less and less football time since scoring that double versus Forest. The next game after that, if I am not mistaken, he was bench without getting minutes. That is piss poor man management.

But again, the players fucked it up yesterday imho.

[Dimples]

There are some odd things about Pep, I can agree.
For example, it seems like Alvarez is getting less and less football time since scoring that double versus Forest. The next game after that, if I am not mistaken, he was bench without getting minutes. That is piss poor man management.

But again, the players fucked it up yesterday imho.

imo we lost yesterday because:

1. Ref/VAR was inconsistent for City. Goal should have stood.
2. Team was unbalanced - again. Bern is our best midfielder. He should always play there. Frees up DeBruyne to play behind Haaland. Play Grealish or Alvarez with Foden and Haaland. Team selection is down to Pep.
3. Some players did not perform. They bottled it - again. That is down to them.
4. Klopp bullying the officials, keeping the crowd buzzing. Helped the atmosphere. Doing his job.
5. Finally, Liverpool players gave their all. Hard to stomach but they fought for everything. Have to give them credit for their grit.